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STEELINOX · 17 September 2011, 12:53 PM

Veteran racer, Jimmy Leeward, crashed heavy metal unlimited warbird, "Galloping Ghost" into a crowd of spectators sitting in pricey box seating today.

I'm certain those that perished didnt feel a thing as the racer smacked the earth at 500 mph.

The story continues to unfold...

RIP to those lost in the tragedy...

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news..._205384-1.html

blackmsport · 17 September 2011, 12:59 PM

Rip terrible events

Mosco · 17 September 2011, 01:03 PM

Awful...

perpetualman88 · 17 September 2011, 01:32 PM

an absolute tragedy

jatco · 18 September 2011, 03:57 AM

/\ .. devestating...

Ultraman · 18 September 2011, 09:29 AM

Terrible news.

STEELINOX · 18 September 2011, 09:34 AM

Death toll is now nine.

It looks like from some new imagery, that the trim control for the horizontal stabilizer had come unhinged, creating the disaster...

dalip · 18 September 2011, 09:38 AM

An awful tragedy....Thoughts are with all affected by this sad event.

sleddog · 18 September 2011, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

Death toll is now nine.

It looks like from some new imagery, that the trim control for the horizontal stabilizer had come unhinged, creating the disaster...

Almost definitive as of the cause Randy.. I saw the same report!
Unfortunately, I think these air shows are going to be a thing of the past.
So many fatal accidents as of late.....
These pilots accept the risk, but when spectators become part of the risk, it's a tough pill to swallow.
So lucky more weren' killed.
This was a terrible thing to happen, and I feel for those who have loved ones lost.

z32turbo · 18 September 2011, 09:51 AM

So sad!!

Letsgodiving · 18 September 2011, 11:38 AM

There is talk about the safety of these events and tragic episodes like this bring it to the forefront but I hope there isn't an over-reaction. There is risk in many things in life and being killed/injured by a plane in an event such as this is near the bottom of things to worry about. I'm planning to attend the Oceanic Air Show next weekend and my safety is the last thing on my mind.

Nevertheless it is sad to see this occur and my thoughts are with those affected.

Kevin B · 20 September 2011, 02:29 AM

That sucks, not only the loss of life but the loss of a vintage aircraft. Not that I'm a professional or that any one cares what I think, but in the short clips I have seen it looks like the trim tab may have started the problem but I don't think it was the only problem. From the videos I have seen on the news and the one posted here it looks like the high bank angle and tight turn may have caused the plane to become "loose" in the turn and the pilot may have come off the elevator a little allowing the the wings to bank even more with the rudder input. It looks like the plane actually gets inverted at one point but is still under control albeit heading to wards the ground. At that point it looks like the pilot pulls the nose up hard causing a high speed stall and loosing control. This may suck to say, and we may never know, but at one point when the plane is inverted had he pushed the stick forward he may have been able to recover, climbing out inverted. I say that because I did the same thing when I was learning aerobatics but fortunately I was at 8000ft. Your gut reaction is to pull up. The quick thinking it takes to fly at those speeds and at that altitude I never acquired, but I did learn how to recover from unusual attitudes................at altitude. My heart goes out to the loved ones of those lost and injured.

mtrunner · 20 September 2011, 02:38 AM

Such a terrible tragedy. The death toll is up to 10 now. There was another crash at an airshow in West Virginia. The pilot was killed in this crash as well.

http://morningjournal.com/articles/2...c231652358.txt

eric23 · 20 September 2011, 02:48 AM

Terrible Tragedy!

sierra11b · 20 September 2011, 03:20 AM

As I recall from my Dad that used to go to the Reno air races when he was younger is that crashes have happened before.

I love attending air shows but am always reluctant and cautious about the real dangers of attending them...

RIP to all involved.

STEELINOX · 21 September 2011, 05:09 AM

I wonder if they'll raise the course altitude minimum and make racers have these too...

17 September 2011, 12:53 PM	#1
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	RENO Air Race crash ! Veteran racer, Jimmy Leeward, crashed heavy metal unlimited warbird, "Galloping Ghost" into a crowd of spectators sitting in pricey box seating today. I'm certain those that perished didnt feel a thing as the racer smacked the earth at 500 mph. The story continues to unfold... RIP to those lost in the tragedy... http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news..._205384-1.html

17 September 2011, 01:03 PM	#3
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Awful... __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

17 September 2011, 01:32 PM	#4
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,182	an absolute tragedy __________________ Instagram: @SwissWatchTime

18 September 2011, 03:57 AM	#5
jatco 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 50,567	/\ .. devestating... __________________ . ..- ' A Crown for every achievement '

18 September 2011, 09:38 AM	#8
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	An awful tragedy....Thoughts are with all affected by this sad event. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

17 September 2011, 12:59 PM	#2
blackmsport Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melb - Australia Posts: 2,959	Rip terrible events

18 September 2011, 09:29 AM	#6
Ultraman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 2,175	Terrible news.

18 September 2011, 09:34 AM	#7
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	Death toll is now nine. It looks like from some new imagery, that the trim control for the horizontal stabilizer had come unhinged, creating the disaster...

18 September 2011, 09:51 AM	#10
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	So sad!! __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

18 September 2011, 11:38 AM	#11
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,319	There is talk about the safety of these events and tragic episodes like this bring it to the forefront but I hope there isn't an over-reaction. There is risk in many things in life and being killed/injured by a plane in an event such as this is near the bottom of things to worry about. I'm planning to attend the Oceanic Air Show next weekend and my safety is the last thing on my mind. Nevertheless it is sad to see this occur and my thoughts are with those affected. __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

20 September 2011, 02:29 AM	#12
Kevin B "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 324	That sucks, not only the loss of life but the loss of a vintage aircraft. Not that I'm a professional or that any one cares what I think, but in the short clips I have seen it looks like the trim tab may have started the problem but I don't think it was the only problem. From the videos I have seen on the news and the one posted here it looks like the high bank angle and tight turn may have caused the plane to become "loose" in the turn and the pilot may have come off the elevator a little allowing the the wings to bank even more with the rudder input. It looks like the plane actually gets inverted at one point but is still under control albeit heading to wards the ground. At that point it looks like the pilot pulls the nose up hard causing a high speed stall and loosing control. This may suck to say, and we may never know, but at one point when the plane is inverted had he pushed the stick forward he may have been able to recover, climbing out inverted. I say that because I did the same thing when I was learning aerobatics but fortunately I was at 8000ft. Your gut reaction is to pull up. The quick thinking it takes to fly at those speeds and at that altitude I never acquired, but I did learn how to recover from unusual attitudes................at altitude. My heart goes out to the loved ones of those lost and injured.

20 September 2011, 02:38 AM	#13
mtrunner 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Gary Location: Bozeman, MT Watch: 126508 Paul Newman Posts: 7,835	Such a terrible tragedy. The death toll is up to 10 now. There was another crash at an airshow in West Virginia. The pilot was killed in this crash as well. http://morningjournal.com/articles/2...c231652358.txt

20 September 2011, 02:48 AM	#14
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	Terrible Tragedy!

20 September 2011, 03:20 AM	#15
sierra11b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: MkXVIII, 3570.50 Posts: 1,966	As I recall from my Dad that used to go to the Reno air races when he was younger is that crashes have happened before. I love attending air shows but am always reluctant and cautious about the real dangers of attending them... RIP to all involved.

21 September 2011, 05:09 AM	#16
STEELINOX 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,021	I wonder if they'll raise the course altitude minimum and make racers have these too...

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