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Kayaker52 · 23 October 2011, 10:09 PM

Commando on evilbay now,19,995..00. Any one got the money?

dddrees · 23 October 2011, 10:11 PM

Numismatist · 23 October 2011, 10:19 PM

SWIMPRUF · 23 October 2011, 11:43 PM

What's so special about this watch?

Anyone? (Photo from the actual auction)

paddy_crow · 24 October 2011, 12:32 AM

Rare does not equal desirable.

Jagatai · 24 October 2011, 12:41 AM

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2009/5/...ller-just.html

ecsub44 · 24 October 2011, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paddy_crow

Rare does not equal desirable.

I disagree. Otherwise it wouldn't garner such a high price.

One could acquire quite an interesting collection of Explorers if they were so inclined...there are just so many unique options out there. And the good thing about it, generally speaking, is that you could do it for significantly less than a Sub (or whatever) collection.

paddy_crow · 24 October 2011, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

I disagree. Otherwise it wouldn't garner such a high price.

One could acquire quite an interesting collection of Explorers if they were so inclined...there are just so many unique options out there. And the good thing about it, generally speaking, is that you could do it for significantly less than a Sub (or whatever) collection.

I could go on eBay right now and list an old shoe for $20K. Doesn't mean it will sell. And even if it did sell, that only means I found one fool.

dysondiver · 24 October 2011, 01:51 AM

good link , interesting read , i wonder how long till a dozen fakes turn up now.

masterserg · 24 October 2011, 02:07 AM

Looks cool though!

dysondiver · 24 October 2011, 02:12 AM

looks like an airking conversion kit , or a royal with a replacement dial ,,,, ill bet there are some people working on makeing a new old one as we speak.

ecsub44 · 24 October 2011, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by paddy_crow

I could go on eBay right now and list an old shoe for $20K. Doesn't mean it will sell. And even if it did sell, that only means I found one fool.

Read the Hodinkee article (and all of the linked articles). One sold in 2008 for over $20,000. These aren't random numbers...they're driven by the market and the relatively high demand for these great pieces.

Michael M. · 24 October 2011, 03:27 AM

The Rolex ref.6429 Commando is a very rare watch, most likely less than a 100 still exist today. A few months back I got to handle one, picked up @ a estate sale for $2.00!! A very neat watch!

Jagatai · 24 October 2011, 04:47 AM

Basically it's an air king ....With an interesting dial variant. Is it worth 20k? Not for me.

Grumpy Badger · 24 October 2011, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jagatai

Basically it's an air king ....With an interesting dial variant. Is it worth 20k? Not for me.

By that logic a Comex is just a sub/SD with funny writing on it...

A MilSub is just a 5513 with an (often "aftermarket") circle T and possibly funny hands that look more like they belong on an omega...

Jagatai · 24 October 2011, 05:02 AM

True! But an ordinary sub fetches more than a regular air king.

paddy_crow · 24 October 2011, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

Read the Hodinkee article (and all of the linked articles). One sold in 2008 for over $20,000. These aren't random numbers...they're driven by the market and the relatively high demand for these great pieces.

Even if this watch were to sell for $20K, it would not prove that rare is equal to desirable.

Melanotaenia · 24 October 2011, 06:54 AM

very cool historical watch from Rolex. Interesting read on the piece too. Thanks for sharing. It seems every week I learn about another Sub of Explorer "variant" out there.

Mark020 · 24 October 2011, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael M.

The Rolex ref.6429 Commando is a very rare watch, most likely less than a 100 still exist today. A few months back I got to handle one, picked up @ a estate sale for $2.00!! A very neat watch!

You mean 2 dollar as in TWO dollar?

ecsub44 · 24 October 2011, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paddy_crow

Even if this watch were to sell for $20K, it would not prove that rare is equal to desirable.

These ARE desirable. There is a very real market for them. I'm not sure I understand your argument.

Regardless, I think this would be the PERFECT watch for me. I just prefer a watch of a bit larger diameter (39 or 40mm is ideal). Granted, I'd not pay $20,000 for it...but I'd part with $6,000 if it were the "right" model.

So many great watches...so little $.

paddy_crow · 24 October 2011, 08:39 AM

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These ARE desirable. There is a very real market for them. I'm not sure I understand your argument.

That may be true, but it does not mean that anything rare is automatically desirable. At no point have I said that THIS watch is not desirable.

ecsub44 · 24 October 2011, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paddy_crow

That may be true, but it does not mean that anything rare is automatically desirable. At no point have I said that THIS watch is not desirable.

Oh. Ok. I guess we're in agreement then.

I didn't realize that someone said that rare automatically equals desirable. I was referring specifically to these watches...the topic of the thread.

Que sera, sera.

Michael M. · 24 October 2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark020

You mean 2 dollar as in TWO dollar?

Yes, $2.00 US Dollars

paddy_crow · 24 October 2011, 09:11 AM

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I didn't realize that someone said that rare automatically equals desirable.

Last time I checked, it was permissible to make a post without someone else having posted the opposite.

I don't know what this watch is worth, but I do know I won't be bidding on it.

ecsub44 · 24 October 2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paddy_crow

Last time I checked, it was permissible to make a post without someone else having posted the opposite.

I don't know what this watch is worth, but I do know I won't be bidding on it.

Easy there. I didn't read back...but when I last posted I thought that someone HAD posted about it. Deep breaths...it'll be OK.

Lgear080 · 24 October 2011, 10:07 AM

This watch is rare and desirable and with the right provenance
Worth every bit of $20k... Blue chip collectors piece. Gotta pay
To play.

paddy_crow · 24 October 2011, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ecsub44

Easy there. I didn't read back...but when I last posted I thought that someone HAD posted about it. Deep breaths...it'll be OK.

Why on earth would you assume something wasn't OK?

Kayaker52 · 24 October 2011, 08:48 PM

Ok guys,we can go on about this "commando" granted it is a great piece,it`s now 16k,still big money for me that is.Is it worth 16?,with less than 100 pieces made I guess so,anywho it is a serious Rolex collectors piece,if I had 16K to piss away I would buy it.With stipulations on the sale.

adam78 · 25 October 2011, 01:14 AM

You guys have got it wrong. This is a manual wind Oyster, not equivalent to a ref. 5500 Air-King at all (except in size; I think it's a 34mm). It is rare, but I thought worth more on the order of several thousand (if all original), not 16K. But to each his own.

Personally I'd much rather have my 1016s...

Mark020 · 25 October 2011, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael M.

Yes, $2.00 US Dollars

It is really such a pity the there are no estate sales over here!

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24 October 2011, 12:32 AM	#5
paddy_crow Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 592	Rare does not equal desirable.

24 October 2011, 12:41 AM	#6
Jagatai "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: NY Posts: 851	http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2009/5/...ller-just.html

24 October 2011, 01:51 AM	#9
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	good link , interesting read , i wonder how long till a dozen fakes turn up now.

24 October 2011, 02:12 AM	#11
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	looks like an airking conversion kit , or a royal with a replacement dial ,,,, ill bet there are some people working on makeing a new old one as we speak.

24 October 2011, 03:27 AM	#13
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	The Rolex ref.6429 Commando is a very rare watch, most likely less than a 100 still exist today. A few months back I got to handle one, picked up @ a estate sale for $2.00!! A very neat watch!

24 October 2011, 04:47 AM	#14
Jagatai "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: NY Posts: 851	Basically it's an air king ....With an interesting dial variant. Is it worth 20k? Not for me.

24 October 2011, 05:02 AM	#16
Jagatai "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Philip Location: NY Posts: 851	True! But an ordinary sub fetches more than a regular air king.

24 October 2011, 06:54 AM	#18
Melanotaenia "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: NYC Watch: Explorers and Subs Posts: 620	very cool historical watch from Rolex. Interesting read on the piece too. Thanks for sharing. It seems every week I learn about another Sub of Explorer "variant" out there.

24 October 2011, 10:07 AM	#26
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	This watch is rare and desirable and with the right provenance Worth every bit of $20k... Blue chip collectors piece. Gotta pay To play.

24 October 2011, 08:48 PM	#28
Kayaker52 Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New york Posts: 255	Ok guys,we can go on about this "commando" granted it is a great piece,it`s now 16k,still big money for me that is.Is it worth 16?,with less than 100 pieces made I guess so,anywho it is a serious Rolex collectors piece,if I had 16K to piss away I would buy it.With stipulations on the sale.

25 October 2011, 01:14 AM	#29
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	You guys have got it wrong. This is a manual wind Oyster, not equivalent to a ref. 5500 Air-King at all (except in size; I think it's a 34mm). It is rare, but I thought worth more on the order of several thousand (if all original), not 16K. But to each his own. Personally I'd much rather have my 1016s... __________________ Cheers, Adam

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