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matt4hand · 1 November 2011, 04:56 AM

Wrong Box, replacement dial, luminova insert
All kinds of stuff wrong and represented as "original"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Rolex-S...item5646d32da4

TimeToGo · 1 November 2011, 07:33 AM

Very interesting.

Good attention to detail!

If this was a 1967 Sub, you are correct that it does not have the correct dial, it should be a meters first red dial. The fact it was sold new in 1975, makes it a possibility that it is indeed a 1975 sub, with the wrong number written on the certificate. In this case, the dial would be correct. The seller would need to verify the serial number on the case.

fatfreddy · 2 November 2011, 02:13 AM

I was bidding on this, just sent him a msg via eBay. I'll post the response.
Thanks!!!

MP5 · 2 November 2011, 02:27 AM

Am I he only one that prefers the white subs to the red?

fatfreddy · 2 November 2011, 06:47 AM

Reply from seller when asked about the dial:-

'This is how the watch came when purchase new in 1975... Back in the 70's the rolex dealer could put and dial they had in stock on the watches when they sold it..... Thanks'

pdoukas · 2 November 2011, 07:54 AM

funny....I saw this today on ebay and posted in the vintage section.

I gotta tell ya right now though, I have never seen a 1680 with a date lower than 2.1 mil ....and those have been red subs. Now I know the "book" says 1966, but find me something with a date earlier than 2.1 mil.

Something doesn't give with this. I can respect the fact that the dial was swapped back in the early 70's from the AD. but the 1.7 mil 1967 .....not buying it. I've been searching for a 1968 for over a year and no one has ever come up with one and I have been told a thousand times 1969 is as early as I am going to find. I'd want to see scans of the model and serial between the lugz.

Pete

Goiguidoc · 2 November 2011, 07:56 AM

I would stay away.
Very fishy.

BH13GMT · 2 November 2011, 08:04 AM

mmm watching this with interest. So the seller is claiming the AD switched the dial to make it look like a current 1680 white sub? I suppose at the time a Red sub would look more like older stock and the white newer dialed subs would have been considered more desirable?

fatfreddy · 9 November 2011, 06:08 AM

I was watching this listing and it's ended early. The number of times this happens is quite high - wonder what happened, seller change of heart or more likely done a deal outside of eBay.

1 November 2011, 04:56 AM	#1
matt4hand Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Matt Location: Atlanta Watch: Tramp Posts: 2,369	1680 misrepresented Wrong Box, replacement dial, luminova insert All kinds of stuff wrong and represented as "original" http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Rolex-S...item5646d32da4

2 November 2011, 08:04 AM	#8
BH13GMT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Paul Location: UK, Dorset Watch: and learn Posts: 2,636	mmm watching this with interest. So the seller is claiming the AD switched the dial to make it look like a current 1680 white sub? I suppose at the time a Red sub would look more like older stock and the white newer dialed subs would have been considered more desirable? __________________ Rolex Sub 1680, Rolex GMT 116710LN, Rolex Datejust 16220 Salmon Dial (the Mrs), Tudor BB58, Tudor Pelagos Blue and Several Seiko's ************************************************ *************** "last one in the chopper is a rotten egg" Jonathan Quayle Higgins III

1 November 2011, 07:33 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Very interesting. Good attention to detail! If this was a 1967 Sub, you are correct that it does not have the correct dial, it should be a meters first red dial. The fact it was sold new in 1975, makes it a possibility that it is indeed a 1975 sub, with the wrong number written on the certificate. In this case, the dial would be correct. The seller would need to verify the serial number on the case.

2 November 2011, 02:13 AM	#3
fatfreddy Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 44	I was bidding on this, just sent him a msg via eBay. I'll post the response. Thanks!!!

2 November 2011, 02:27 AM	#4
MP5 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 2,886	Am I he only one that prefers the white subs to the red?

2 November 2011, 06:47 AM	#5
fatfreddy Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 44	Reply from seller when asked about the dial:- 'This is how the watch came when purchase new in 1975... Back in the 70's the rolex dealer could put and dial they had in stock on the watches when they sold it..... Thanks'

2 November 2011, 07:54 AM	#6
pdoukas "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Pete Location: Arizona Watch: ing Duke bball Posts: 1,488	funny....I saw this today on ebay and posted in the vintage section. I gotta tell ya right now though, I have never seen a 1680 with a date lower than 2.1 mil ....and those have been red subs. Now I know the "book" says 1966, but find me something with a date earlier than 2.1 mil. Something doesn't give with this. I can respect the fact that the dial was swapped back in the early 70's from the AD. but the 1.7 mil 1967 .....not buying it. I've been searching for a 1968 for over a year and no one has ever come up with one and I have been told a thousand times 1969 is as early as I am going to find. I'd want to see scans of the model and serial between the lugz. Pete

2 November 2011, 07:56 AM	#7
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	I would stay away. Very fishy.

9 November 2011, 06:08 AM	#9
fatfreddy Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Yorkshire, UK Posts: 44	I was watching this listing and it's ended early. The number of times this happens is quite high - wonder what happened, seller change of heart or more likely done a deal outside of eBay.

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