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Dob · 8 November 2011, 04:38 AM

Any thoughts on how long sellers will be able to rake in a substantial profit on the new Exp II? Some of the prices being asked are rather ridiculous IMO, but I guess if you want to get one first and can afford it - you pay the extra cost. Personally, I'll wait until the hype dies down.

pdpmojo · 8 November 2011, 04:42 AM

I'd give it a a year and a half or less. They're not "limited" like the GVs or LVs. Soon they will be like the white and black Milgauss. Available everywhere and probably at a discount. (Keep in mind, by then the list price will probably be close to or exceed what the list+premium is today.)

padi56 · 8 November 2011, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dob

Any thoughts on how long sellers will be able to rake in a substantial profit on the new Exp II? Some of the prices being asked are rather ridiculous IMO, but I guess if you want to get one first and can afford it - you pay the extra cost. Personally, I'll wait until the hype dies down.

How long is a bit of string and IMHO anyone paying over retail for any product Rolex or not must be sixpence short of a shilling.

gwalker · 8 November 2011, 04:47 AM

I don't think it will take long.

dysondiver · 8 November 2011, 04:49 AM

id rather stuff wasps up my nose than pay over the odds.

MoBe · 8 November 2011, 04:59 AM

By next summer the AD`s will selling them at a discount.

FremStar · 8 November 2011, 05:03 AM

I almost paid over retail for my 216570 and was lucky to get the call from an AD that my piece arrived. Yes the 216570 may sell for sub $7k on the secondary market next year but isn't that the same story with all new Rolex releases? There is always initial hype, the hype dies down, years pass and then the piece becomes vintage...

Naples09 · 8 November 2011, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dob

Any thoughts on how long sellers will be able to rake in a substantial profit on the new Exp II? Some of the prices being asked are rather ridiculous IMO, but I guess if you want to get one first and can afford it - you pay the extra cost. Personally, I'll wait until the hype dies down.

Its really not a grand over retail if you consider 7% sales tax.

Woody · 8 November 2011, 05:08 AM

Well they don't appear to be that hard to get hold of - I tried one on in an AD in Uk last week and they had both the black and the white dial versions available in Frankfurt airport when I travelled through yesterday

Chipmunk · 8 November 2011, 05:08 AM

Is the new ExpII even worth the MSRP? I still haven't seen one in person.

PeterT · 8 November 2011, 05:33 AM

They are a big step forward compared to the old model.

I am nearly pulling the trigger on a black face.

Please convince me why I should buy and why the black face is better than the white face!

Peter

TheVTCGuy · 8 November 2011, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterT

They are a big step forward compared to the old model.

I am nearly pulling the trigger on a black face.

Please convince me why I should buy and why the black face is better than the white face!

Peter

I'd love to help Peter... but I really like the White!

dddrees · 8 November 2011, 05:40 AM

The general rule of thumb applies here. This will stop once they become plentiful enough that supply meets or exceeds demand.

Woody · 8 November 2011, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

They are a big step forward compared to the old model.

I am nearly pulling the trigger on a black face.

Please convince me why I should buy and why the black face is better than the white face!

Peter

Just try one on.....the black dial version is superb

FremStar · 8 November 2011, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipmunk

Is the new ExpII even worth the MSRP? I still haven't seen one in person.

To me yes, however, is any Rolex ever worth MSRP?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

They are a big step forward compared to the old model.

I am nearly pulling the trigger on a black face.

Please convince me why I should buy and why the black face is better than the white face!

Peter

I can't convince you, however, personally for me this is the closest I was able to get to a 1655, eventually I will buy the white dial as well. In summary both dials are beautiful! Good luck with your decision!

smallcandle · 8 November 2011, 07:52 AM

The new black face ExpII is the only watch I'd be willing to consider from Rolex's current offerings. And until I actually have the opportunity to try one on I won't know for sure if I'll nab one. That being said, I refuse to pay OVER MSRP! So for people like me the wait has begun...

zhiunit · 8 November 2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pdpmojo

I'd give it a a year and a half or less. They're not "limited" like the GVs or LVs. Soon they will be like the white and black Milgauss. Available everywhere and probably at a discount. (Keep in mind, by then the list price will probably be close to or exceed what the list+premium is today.)

This guy has a point, by the time the hype goes down and the supply increases, the EXP II will be hit by at least 1 and maybe even 2 price hikes and this would bring it to roughly what it's price is right now......but only time can tell tho =(

Art 1 · 8 November 2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chipmunk

Is the new ExpII even worth the MSRP? I still haven't seen one in person.

Yes, as much as any other. It's very nice watch.

Art 1 · 8 November 2011, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dob

Any thoughts on how long sellers will be able to rake in a substantial profit on the new Exp II? Some of the prices being asked are rather ridiculous IMO, but I guess if you want to get one first and can afford it - you pay the extra cost. Personally, I'll wait until the hype dies down.

I already think a grand over is over, or close to it.

Zed Homme · 8 November 2011, 09:17 AM

I got mine for a 15% discount...

I'd never pay over MSRP for anything.

spuds · 8 November 2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

They are a big step forward compared to the old model.

I am nearly pulling the trigger on a black face.

Please convince me why I should buy and why the black face is better than the white face!

Peter

Need I say more....??

esm · 8 November 2011, 09:49 AM

I don't think the 216570 will command any premium for very long.

There has been 3 x LNIB 216570s for sale in one of the UK forums and two has been sold at the advertised price. The preowned advertised price for the 216570 is about £5100 ATM.... (current UK MSRP is £5530).

Go for the white dial

Numismatist · 8 November 2011, 10:01 AM

I remember the days of $15,000 SS Daytonas BNIB on here...

Chipmunk · 8 November 2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Art 1

Yes, as much as any other. It's very nice watch.

That's encouraging. Can't wait to try one on.

MortgageGuy · 8 November 2011, 10:44 AM

I don't see it lasting either... A great watch but MSRP is high enough. I see this one being discounted like everything else very soon if not already

Speed · 8 November 2011, 11:50 AM

I tried on the white dial at Tourneau this past weekend. I really wanted to like the watch...The one reservation I had was that since the hands are so large, the black trim were extremely glossy. The watch wore large, but not too large.

The sales woman said they were "flying off the shelves" but then offered financing and Tourneau gift certificates. She told me that the thicker lugs were more masculine than the old version. I was wearing my 16710 Pepsi at the time :-/

HongNinja · 8 November 2011, 05:08 PM

Supply and demand my friend, supply and demand. If I was filthy rich, I'd pay in a heartbeat because I would be filthy rich. I'm not, therefore would never pay above retail. That's just nuts. In the end, the hype will die, and you will be able to find them all over.

Question is: Can you wait?

I can.

bayerische · 8 November 2011, 07:13 PM

I got 85 euros off mine!

Translates to a whooping discount of 1,4%!

George Ab · 8 November 2011, 07:26 PM

It was one thing to pay a premium to be the coolest kid on the block when they weren't in the US, but now that they are available a AD's... well I don't get it.

It will not be long.

CEG · 8 November 2011, 07:28 PM

Over MSRP!? Not in the UK!

I reckon mine is worth £300 less than I paid for it already!

8 November 2011, 04:38 AM	#1
Dob Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Miami Posts: 359	How much longer will they go for a grand over retail? Any thoughts on how long sellers will be able to rake in a substantial profit on the new Exp II? Some of the prices being asked are rather ridiculous IMO, but I guess if you want to get one first and can afford it - you pay the extra cost. Personally, I'll wait until the hype dies down.

8 November 2011, 05:08 AM	#10
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	Is the new ExpII even worth the MSRP? I still haven't seen one in person. __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

8 November 2011, 05:40 AM	#13
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	The general rule of thumb applies here. This will stop once they become plentiful enough that supply meets or exceeds demand. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

8 November 2011, 07:52 AM	#16
smallcandle "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Kansas Watch: 16610, Omega PO Posts: 1,898	The new black face ExpII is the only watch I'd be willing to consider from Rolex's current offerings. And until I actually have the opportunity to try one on I won't know for sure if I'll nab one. That being said, I refuse to pay OVER MSRP! So for people like me the wait has begun... __________________ Things got out of control and I had to stab a clown...

8 November 2011, 10:01 AM	#23
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	I remember the days of $15,000 SS Daytonas BNIB on here... __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

8 November 2011, 04:42 AM	#2
pdpmojo Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NY Watch: SS GMT R/BLCK Posts: 196	I'd give it a a year and a half or less. They're not "limited" like the GVs or LVs. Soon they will be like the white and black Milgauss. Available everywhere and probably at a discount. (Keep in mind, by then the list price will probably be close to or exceed what the list+premium is today.)

8 November 2011, 04:47 AM	#4
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	I don't think it will take long.

8 November 2011, 04:49 AM	#5
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	id rather stuff wasps up my nose than pay over the odds.

8 November 2011, 04:59 AM	#6
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	By next summer the AD`s will selling them at a discount.

8 November 2011, 05:03 AM	#7
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	I almost paid over retail for my 216570 and was lucky to get the call from an AD that my piece arrived. Yes the 216570 may sell for sub $7k on the secondary market next year but isn't that the same story with all new Rolex releases? There is always initial hype, the hype dies down, years pass and then the piece becomes vintage...

8 November 2011, 05:08 AM	#9
Woody "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Africa Posts: 1,127	Well they don't appear to be that hard to get hold of - I tried one on in an AD in Uk last week and they had both the black and the white dial versions available in Frankfurt airport when I travelled through yesterday

8 November 2011, 05:33 AM	#11
PeterT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: England Watch: 16613 16710 16600 Posts: 1,021	They are a big step forward compared to the old model. I am nearly pulling the trigger on a black face. Please convince me why I should buy and why the black face is better than the white face! Peter

8 November 2011, 09:17 AM	#20
Zed Homme "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: usa Watch: Rolex Posts: 6,962	I got mine for a 15% discount... I'd never pay over MSRP for anything.

8 November 2011, 09:49 AM	#22
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	I don't think the 216570 will command any premium for very long. There has been 3 x LNIB 216570s for sale in one of the UK forums and two has been sold at the advertised price. The preowned advertised price for the 216570 is about £5100 ATM.... (current UK MSRP is £5530). Go for the white dial

8 November 2011, 10:44 AM	#25
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	I don't see it lasting either... A great watch but MSRP is high enough. I see this one being discounted like everything else very soon if not already __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

8 November 2011, 11:50 AM	#26
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I tried on the white dial at Tourneau this past weekend. I really wanted to like the watch...The one reservation I had was that since the hands are so large, the black trim were extremely glossy. The watch wore large, but not too large. The sales woman said they were "flying off the shelves" but then offered financing and Tourneau gift certificates. She told me that the thicker lugs were more masculine than the old version. I was wearing my 16710 Pepsi at the time :-/

8 November 2011, 05:08 PM	#27
HongNinja Banned Join Date: May 2011 Location: On Earth Watch: 228238, 114060 Posts: 1,347	Supply and demand my friend, supply and demand. If I was filthy rich, I'd pay in a heartbeat because I would be filthy rich. I'm not, therefore would never pay above retail. That's just nuts. In the end, the hype will die, and you will be able to find them all over. Question is: Can you wait? I can.

8 November 2011, 07:13 PM	#28
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I got 85 euros off mine! Translates to a whooping discount of 1,4%! __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

8 November 2011, 07:26 PM	#29
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	It was one thing to pay a premium to be the coolest kid on the block when they weren't in the US, but now that they are available a AD's... well I don't get it. It will not be long. __________________

8 November 2011, 07:28 PM	#30
CEG "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Dan Location: ENGLAND Watch: 116505 Posts: 1,587	Over MSRP!? Not in the UK! I reckon mine is worth £300 less than I paid for it already! __________________ 16710-116505-116660-116680-116610LV-216570-126331-116710-114060-126621-TudorGMT-Tudor BB58-Sapphire Speedy Pro-Speedy Rising Sun

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