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F430Spider · 3 December 2011, 03:45 PM

whats the difference between the limited edition Wempe version + the current diver they sell today? they look the same or am i crazy?

what did the Wempre version sell for? Talking about the steel not the rose

Andrés G · 3 December 2011, 04:36 PM

They´re similar but don´t look the same or have the same specs.

The Wempe Scuba is a limited edition that commemorates the 100th anniversary of Wempe and only 175 pieces were made in steel. It houses the AP 2325 automatic movement.

The Diver is the first watch from AP to be ISO 6425 certified, the international standard for diver’s watches. It´s powered by the AP 3120 automatic movement.

F430Spider · 3 December 2011, 05:15 PM

thank you for the great info! I wish I knew what the different movements meant - is that important to me? I dont dive more than 6ft in a pool!

TSW · 3 December 2011, 06:47 PM

Look at you other thread "Scuba vs Diver"
The Wempe has the same specs as the Scuba.

Andrés G · 4 December 2011, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F430Spider

thank you for the great info! I wish I knew what the different movements meant - is that important to me? I dont dive more than 6ft in a pool!

Both movementes are reliable and with a good track history. Either will be fine for a 6ft dive.

Tony-GB · 4 December 2011, 02:30 AM

Also, the date wheel is different. White on black (Diver) & black on white (Wempe). The Wempe box is incredible & you have to see the case engraving on the back of the Wempe to believe it. Stunning.

But the main difference is the Diver is engineered for work. For diving. The Wempe & Scuba's not so. I know Thomas will disagree with me on that one!

But here's a link to a great review. Scroll down for the video of the watch being used as it's engineering intended. And there ain't a desk in sight!

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/7/...ffshore-d.html

TSW · 4 December 2011, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

Also, the date wheel is different. White on black (Diver) & black on white (Wempe). The Wempe box is incredible & you have to see the case engraving on the back of the Wempe to believe it. Stunning.

But the main difference is the Diver is engineered for work. For diving. The Wempe & Scuba's not so. I know Thomas will disagree with me on that one!

But here's a link to a great review. Scroll down for the video of the watch being used as it's engineering intended. And there ain't a desk in sight!

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/7/...ffshore-d.html

I just think for a regular user "6ft" of diving you would be ok with either one,
Being a professional diver a whole other story

WatchTimes · 4 December 2011, 03:49 AM

Swimming either will work but the Wempe version seriously lacks in the WR
dept if you are doing more than swimming.

F430Spider · 4 December 2011, 04:32 AM

Which would you guys buy? having a limited edition or having the newest model?

TSW · 4 December 2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider

Which would you guys buy? having a limited edition or having the newest model?

Diver hands down

F430Spider · 4 December 2011, 05:55 AM

You mean the new one?

TSW · 4 December 2011, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider

You mean the new one?

Yes

Andrés G · 4 December 2011, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F430Spider

Which would you guys buy?

WatchTimes · 5 December 2011, 12:38 AM

If I was to buy one it would be the new Divers without a doubt.
Only reason for the LE is if you are a collector.
Also, it seems the LE does not have the demand the Diver does.....

kilyung · 5 December 2011, 01:47 AM

I like the Scuba better because of the JLC 889/2 based movement. There's nothing wrong with the 3120 but I just feel JLC movements are technically hard to beat.

F430Spider · 5 December 2011, 09:25 AM

I thought all the LE Audemars were more desirable.

Fifth Ave Rolex Man · 6 December 2011, 01:45 AM

I'd buy the one made in limited production!

psv · 7 December 2011, 04:13 AM

1) The AP divers has a phenomenal AP in-house movement. Strike one.

2) The AP divers is the only AP diving watch certified to meet ISO specs (enough lume etc). Strike two.

3) Who the F cares about Wempe? I sure don't want their name/logo on any of my watches.

If you are going to buy either of those, buy the AP Diver.

Just my 2 cents.

TSW · 7 December 2011, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

Who the F cares about Wempe? I sure don't want their name/logo on any of my watches.

X2

Some Comparison pics

Manofsteelpt · 7 December 2011, 05:27 AM

All this darn "enabling"... Great looking watch!!!

TSW · 7 December 2011, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Manofsteelpt

All this darn "enabling"... Great looking watch!!!

Tony-GB · 7 December 2011, 08:42 PM

I think it's such a shame the Wempe is being seen as a bastard AP. It has the more detailed dial (guilloche ? ) as opposed to the Divers stamped dial and was the template for the Diver. I understand that the Wempe was the genesis for AP to have a diver model, at all.

The Wempe logo is nowhere near as visible as the publicity shots would have you believe. The logo has been highlighted to enforce the Wempe brand. Here's a link that shows wristshots of the Wempe on a bracelet. You'll have to scroll down.

(Credit & thanks to Diego for the pics).

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...288221862/Need..

.

Here's another link with info and a pic of the stunning caseback. Pics do not do the engraving justice at all!

http://www.ablogtoread.com/audemars-...-jameslistcom/

.

Tony-GB · 7 December 2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by F430Spider

I thought all the LE Audemars were more desirable.

Not all. Many are very hard to shift, the Shaq being just one example.

dalip · 7 December 2011, 09:16 PM

All I can say is: I-N-C-O-M-I-N-G

Tony-GB · 7 December 2011, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalip

All I can say is: I-N-C-O-M-I-N-G

O

M

G

How long?

.

dalip · 7 December 2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

O

M

G

How long?

.

Couple of days Tony.....couldn't resist -

TSW · 8 December 2011, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalip

All I can say is: I-N-C-O-M-I-N-G

Congrats on another great pick-up my friend

psv · 8 December 2011, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony-GB

I think it's such a shame the Wempe is being seen as a bastard AP. It has the more detailed dial (guilloche ? ) as opposed to the Divers stamped dial and was the template for the Diver. I understand that the Wempe was the genesis for AP to have a diver model, at all.

The Wempe logo is nowhere near as visible as the publicity shots would have you believe. The logo has been highlighted to enforce the Wempe brand. Here's a link that shows wristshots of the Wempe on a bracelet. You'll have to scroll down.

(Credit & thanks to Diego for the pics).

http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...288221862/Need..

.

Here's another link with info and a pic of the stunning caseback. Pics do not do the engraving justice at all!

http://www.ablogtoread.com/audemars-...-jameslistcom/

.

That you for that background plus the links to the stunning photos. Those paneristis sure know how to acquire and photograph watches! :-)

I do agree that Wempe was pivotal in the creating of the ROO Diver, however, I still much prefer single branded watches.

psv · 8 December 2011, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalip

All I can say is: I-N-C-O-M-I-N-G

Dalip brother, I didn't know you were this weak?!?! ;-)

dalip · 8 December 2011, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psv

Dalip brother, I didn't know you were this weak?!?! ;-)

Following your lead Patrick :):) !

3 December 2011, 03:45 PM	#1
F430Spider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Harry Location: NyC! Watch: RM + Patek Posts: 80	Audemars Divers? Whats the difference? whats the difference between the limited edition Wempe version + the current diver they sell today? they look the same or am i crazy? what did the Wempre version sell for? Talking about the steel not the rose

3 December 2011, 06:47 PM	#4
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Look at you other thread "Scuba vs Diver" The Wempe has the same specs as the Scuba. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

4 December 2011, 02:30 AM	#6
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Also, the date wheel is different. White on black (Diver) & black on white (Wempe). The Wempe box is incredible & you have to see the case engraving on the back of the Wempe to believe it. Stunning. But the main difference is the Diver is engineered for work. For diving. The Wempe & Scuba's not so. I know Thomas will disagree with me on that one! But here's a link to a great review. Scroll down for the video of the watch being used as it's engineering intended. And there ain't a desk in sight! http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2011/7/...ffshore-d.html __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

4 December 2011, 03:49 AM	#8
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	Swimming either will work but the Wempe version seriously lacks in the WR dept if you are doing more than swimming. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

5 December 2011, 12:38 AM	#14
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,787	If I was to buy one it would be the new Divers without a doubt. Only reason for the LE is if you are a collector. Also, it seems the LE does not have the demand the Diver does..... __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

3 December 2011, 04:36 PM	#2
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,392	They´re similar but don´t look the same or have the same specs. The Wempe Scuba is a limited edition that commemorates the 100th anniversary of Wempe and only 175 pieces were made in steel. It houses the AP 2325 automatic movement. The Diver is the first watch from AP to be ISO 6425 certified, the international standard for diver’s watches. It´s powered by the AP 3120 automatic movement.

3 December 2011, 05:15 PM	#3
F430Spider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Harry Location: NyC! Watch: RM + Patek Posts: 80	thank you for the great info! I wish I knew what the different movements meant - is that important to me? I dont dive more than 6ft in a pool!

4 December 2011, 04:32 AM	#9
F430Spider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Harry Location: NyC! Watch: RM + Patek Posts: 80	Which would you guys buy? having a limited edition or having the newest model?

4 December 2011, 05:55 AM	#11
F430Spider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Harry Location: NyC! Watch: RM + Patek Posts: 80	You mean the new one?

5 December 2011, 01:47 AM	#15
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	I like the Scuba better because of the JLC 889/2 based movement. There's nothing wrong with the 3120 but I just feel JLC movements are technically hard to beat.

5 December 2011, 09:25 AM	#16
F430Spider "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Harry Location: NyC! Watch: RM + Patek Posts: 80	I thought all the LE Audemars were more desirable.

6 December 2011, 01:45 AM	#17
Fifth Ave Rolex Man Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NYC area Watch: 16520A30 Posts: 538	I'd buy the one made in limited production!

7 December 2011, 04:13 AM	#18
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,078	1) The AP divers has a phenomenal AP in-house movement. Strike one. 2) The AP divers is the only AP diving watch certified to meet ISO specs (enough lume etc). Strike two. 3) Who the F cares about Wempe? I sure don't want their name/logo on any of my watches. If you are going to buy either of those, buy the AP Diver. Just my 2 cents.

7 December 2011, 05:27 AM	#20
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	All this darn "enabling"... Great looking watch!!! __________________ "Best to stay silent and have the world think you're a fool than to speak and remove all doubt." SMD

7 December 2011, 08:42 PM	#22
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	I think it's such a shame the Wempe is being seen as a bastard AP. It has the more detailed dial (guilloche ? ) as opposed to the Divers stamped dial and was the template for the Diver. I understand that the Wempe was the genesis for AP to have a diver model, at all. The Wempe logo is nowhere near as visible as the publicity shots would have you believe. The logo has been highlighted to enforce the Wempe brand. Here's a link that shows wristshots of the Wempe on a bracelet. You'll have to scroll down. (Credit & thanks to Diego for the pics). http://www.network54.com/Forum/35339...288221862/Need.. . Here's another link with info and a pic of the stunning caseback. Pics do not do the engraving justice at all! http://www.ablogtoread.com/audemars-...-jameslistcom/ . __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

7 December 2011, 09:16 PM	#24
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	All I can say is: I-N-C-O-M-I-N-G __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

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