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Rjwareagle · 21 January 2012, 12:27 PM

My watch guy got this in.. its a original 1680 RED 2.5mill. lugs look thick and appears to be decent. Ive known him for years and trust him 100%. He told me to make a offer. Im just not sure what I should.. I like a deal because I never know if im going to keep. There is no band, but I figured thats not a deal breaker... any ideas? Pros and Cons?

dddrees · 21 January 2012, 01:07 PM

This may have been better posted in the vintage portion of the forum.

I take it this one doesn't come with Box and Papers? This is by no means a deal killer.

Doesn't appear as the hands match the dial. Not all will but that can be distracting and not something most will want to try to fix later because that can be a hassle.

I personally prefer the ones that aren't missing the pearl. This to can be fixed.

What's the service history on this watch, if uncertain make sure you add this as a potential additional cost.

Bracelets can be found at an additional cost or you can wear it on a Nato as I do mine.

Any ideas as to what this is going to cost you?

Rjwareagle · 24 January 2012, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

this may have been better posted in the vintage portion of the forum.

I take it this one doesn't come with box and papers? This is by no means a deal killer.

Doesn't appear as the hands match the dial. Not all will but that can be distracting and not something most will want to try to fix later because that can be a hassle.

I personally prefer the ones that aren't missing the pearl. This to can be fixed.

What's the service history on this watch, if uncertain make sure you add this as a potential additional cost.

Bracelets can be found at an additional cost or you can wear it on a nato as i do mine.

Any ideas as to what this is going to cost you?

6500-7000

Rjwareagle · 21 January 2012, 01:11 PM

Yea I know it was posted wrong. Tried to delete can I move the post? I thought the hands were different. Not sure the service history. I know he did last week. Might be a project which I'm not looking for right now.

dddrees · 21 January 2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjwareagle

Yea I know it was posted wrong. Tried to delete can I move the post? I thought the hands were different. Not sure the service history. I know he did last week. Might be a project which I'm not looking for right now.

You can PM a mod and asked for it to be moved, or you can repost the same in the vintage section.

I'm no expert on vintage so please wait for others who are more experienced to comment.

I'm also wondering if this one has been re-lumed at some point.

FremStar · 21 January 2012, 01:14 PM

Interesting find, however, personally speaking I would pass. Not having the original bracelet would be a deal breaker for me. I am sure one can be sourced but are you willing to go through the trouble?

Rjwareagle · 21 January 2012, 01:18 PM

Thanks guys... Might not be worth it. I'm not up for a project right now..

Clay · 21 January 2012, 05:16 PM

How bad do you want a Red 1680??? If you can get it cheap enough...Maybe???

mike · 21 January 2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clay

How bad do you want a Red 1680??? If you can get it cheap enough...Maybe???

Yeah, I agree.

dsio · 21 January 2012, 10:59 PM

I'd not worry about the bracelet, rather have a new 93150 than an old 9315 for actual wear anyway.

Jason71 · 21 January 2012, 11:23 PM

Figure-out what he wants for it. Overall, it is not a bad looking watch if you could get it for the right price

DiamondJack · 22 January 2012, 01:15 AM

Doesn't look too bad to me.

It's a Mark IV red with open 6's and the brighter red on white submariner print with rounded S's. it also has the = to the right of the A in Submariner which fits with the Mark IV.

It has the original fat font bezel and original crown. The tritium pearl can be sourced for about $200 on somewhere like VRF.

But I would question the hands since they look to be a fair bit lighter than the hour markers and maybe replacements although, to be fair, the patina on some hands did change at different rates to the hour markers. But for me would be an issue.

It should have a 9315 bracelet with 380 end links but most people change to the later 93150 anyway which can be sourced easily.

Rjwareagle · 22 January 2012, 01:34 AM

Thanks everyone. Dang diamond now you got me interested in it again. I'm going next Saturday to look at it. My wife will kill me, but if I get a deal it might be worth it... I'll make a offer and see. I guess that never hurts!!

Keeperoftime · 22 January 2012, 02:07 AM

Nice price. For the right price, it may be the right one :)

Puffy · 24 January 2012, 03:18 AM

look like Submariner has been coloured over with red..

Swearengen · 24 January 2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

look like Submariner has been coloured over with red..

I think on that dial (mk iv) its printed red on top of white, hence the way it looks as you described

matt4hand · 24 January 2012, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swearengen

I think on that dial (mk iv) its printed red on top of white, hence the way it looks as you described

Yep

DiamondJack · 24 January 2012, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Swearengen

I think on that dial (mk iv) its printed red on top of white, hence the way it looks as you described

You are correct Gabriel. The Mark II and Mark IV dials had red printed over white lettering which gives these two marks the most vibrant coloured red lettering and, as such, are my two favourites

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Rjwareagle · 24 January 2012, 04:08 AM

6500-7K worht it?

Chris B · 24 January 2012, 06:47 AM

I'd pass,...dial is everything & the hands / indices patina not matching would kill it for me, not even the original crown would save it.

There are other Mk IV's out there for a bit more but without any of these issues.

Sounds like you've been bitten by the 'red' bug', ...it'll only get worse & wont go away

You'll get one soon I'm sure

I love Steve's 'red', we need a pic !!

Ps

I understand Mk I & II are red over white also

DiamondJack · 24 January 2012, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris B

I'd pass,...dial is everything & the hands / indices patina not matching would kill it for me, not even the original crown would save it.

There are other Mk IV's out there for a bit more but without any of these issues.

Sounds like you've been bitten by the 'red' bug', ...it'll only get worse & wont go away

You'll get one soon I'm sure

I love Steve's 'red', we need a pic !!

Ps

I understand Mk I & II are red over white also

Thx Chris and yes I agree on the hands.....it would be a deal breaker for me too ..... but would depend on price and likely cost of a replacement set from somewhere like VRF.

And as requested, here's mine

DiamondJack · 24 January 2012, 09:01 AM

And all the bits I was lucky enough to get with her

hatidua · 24 January 2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamondJack

And all the bits I was lucky enough to get with her

Nicely done!

pawnshopkiller · 24 January 2012, 09:05 AM

"I'd pass, I'd pass" Yeah right. We are all waiting to find some vintage Rolex for cheap. Don't lie.

Tell the truth.

They are envious.

Paladin · 24 January 2012, 09:31 AM

I thonk we have all been taunted by a red 1680 at one time or another...

Robbyvm · 24 January 2012, 09:27 AM

Buy it for 6,5k, it's a fair price and then hunt for some other hands and bracelet. The dial looks fine and so does the case

Rjwareagle · 24 January 2012, 12:46 PM

Diamond that's awesome. I'm just looking for a long term investment. If it's a deal, Ill get it and work on the other parts. Just not up on the "Reds" I'll look at it Saturday and decide. I think I won't loose. Ill probably put it up and wear on rare occasions. We will see what happens....

cruvon · 24 January 2012, 12:56 PM

Think you should be fine at that 6.5k price provided all is authentic, look for a matching set of hands(anyone knows how much they cost or how difficult they are to get?) and you can recoup the cost by selling the hands currently on the watch!

jb73 · 25 January 2012, 06:17 AM

Hmm, I know that watch. Like you said they are trustworthy and do excellent work servicing. They restored a 50s oyster perpetual with a cal 1030 for me, they did a great job.

I spoke to them about the watch, I passed on the price they are firm at.

Rjwareagle · 25 January 2012, 06:57 AM

we do alot of work together ( buying and selling) i have a few i might trade... we will see saturday!

21 January 2012, 12:27 PM	#1
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	Im being taunted by a 1680... My watch guy got this in.. its a original 1680 RED 2.5mill. lugs look thick and appears to be decent. Ive known him for years and trust him 100%. He told me to make a offer. Im just not sure what I should.. I like a deal because I never know if im going to keep. There is no band, but I figured thats not a deal breaker... any ideas? Pros and Cons?

21 January 2012, 01:07 PM	#2
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	This may have been better posted in the vintage portion of the forum. I take it this one doesn't come with Box and Papers? This is by no means a deal killer. Doesn't appear as the hands match the dial. Not all will but that can be distracting and not something most will want to try to fix later because that can be a hassle. I personally prefer the ones that aren't missing the pearl. This to can be fixed. What's the service history on this watch, if uncertain make sure you add this as a potential additional cost. Bracelets can be found at an additional cost or you can wear it on a Nato as I do mine. Any ideas as to what this is going to cost you? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

21 January 2012, 01:14 PM	#6
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Interesting find, however, personally speaking I would pass. Not having the original bracelet would be a deal breaker for me. I am sure one can be sourced but are you willing to go through the trouble? __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

21 January 2012, 10:59 PM	#10
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	I'd not worry about the bracelet, rather have a new 93150 than an old 9315 for actual wear anyway. __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

21 January 2012, 11:23 PM	#11
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Figure-out what he wants for it. Overall, it is not a bad looking watch if you could get it for the right price __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

21 January 2012, 01:11 PM	#4
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	Yea I know it was posted wrong. Tried to delete can I move the post? I thought the hands were different. Not sure the service history. I know he did last week. Might be a project which I'm not looking for right now.

21 January 2012, 01:18 PM	#7
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	Thanks guys... Might not be worth it. I'm not up for a project right now..

21 January 2012, 05:16 PM	#8
Clay Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Up a tree Posts: 4,001	How bad do you want a Red 1680??? If you can get it cheap enough...Maybe???

22 January 2012, 01:15 AM	#12
DiamondJack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Watch: Quite a few Posts: 4,315	Doesn't look too bad to me. It's a Mark IV red with open 6's and the brighter red on white submariner print with rounded S's. it also has the = to the right of the A in Submariner which fits with the Mark IV. It has the original fat font bezel and original crown. The tritium pearl can be sourced for about $200 on somewhere like VRF. But I would question the hands since they look to be a fair bit lighter than the hour markers and maybe replacements although, to be fair, the patina on some hands did change at different rates to the hour markers. But for me would be an issue. It should have a 9315 bracelet with 380 end links but most people change to the later 93150 anyway which can be sourced easily.

22 January 2012, 01:34 AM	#13
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	Thanks everyone. Dang diamond now you got me interested in it again. I'm going next Saturday to look at it. My wife will kill me, but if I get a deal it might be worth it... I'll make a offer and see. I guess that never hurts!!

22 January 2012, 02:07 AM	#14
Keeperoftime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,732	Nice price. For the right price, it may be the right one :) __________________ As a man is, so he sees. As the eye is formed, such are its powers. William Blake

24 January 2012, 03:18 AM	#15
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	look like Submariner has been coloured over with red.. __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

24 January 2012, 04:08 AM	#19
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	6500-7K worht it?

24 January 2012, 06:47 AM	#20
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	I'd pass,...dial is everything & the hands / indices patina not matching would kill it for me, not even the original crown would save it. There are other Mk IV's out there for a bit more but without any of these issues. Sounds like you've been bitten by the 'red' bug', ...it'll only get worse & wont go away You'll get one soon I'm sure I love Steve's 'red', we need a pic !! Ps I understand Mk I & II are red over white also Last edited by Chris B; 24 January 2012 at 07:43 AM.. Reason: PS edit

24 January 2012, 09:01 AM	#22
DiamondJack "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: London Watch: Quite a few Posts: 4,315	And all the bits I was lucky enough to get with her

24 January 2012, 09:05 AM	#24
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	"I'd pass, I'd pass" Yeah right. We are all waiting to find some vintage Rolex for cheap. Don't lie. Tell the truth. They are envious.

24 January 2012, 09:31 AM	#25
Paladin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: So. California Posts: 1,232	I thonk we have all been taunted by a red 1680 at one time or another... __________________ 1601, 1675/3, 16753, 16750, 16750, 16700, 16610, 18238

24 January 2012, 09:27 AM	#26
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Buy it for 6,5k, it's a fair price and then hunt for some other hands and bracelet. The dial looks fine and so does the case

24 January 2012, 12:46 PM	#27
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	Diamond that's awesome. I'm just looking for a long term investment. If it's a deal, Ill get it and work on the other parts. Just not up on the "Reds" I'll look at it Saturday and decide. I think I won't loose. Ill probably put it up and wear on rare occasions. We will see what happens....

24 January 2012, 12:56 PM	#28
cruvon "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 4,689	Think you should be fine at that 6.5k price provided all is authentic, look for a matching set of hands(anyone knows how much they cost or how difficult they are to get?) and you can recoup the cost by selling the hands currently on the watch! __________________ Last thing I remember, I was Running outta sight I had to find the passage back,To the place I was before. ’Relax,’ said this Rolex place,We are programmed to receive. You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!

25 January 2012, 06:17 AM	#29
jb73 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CT Posts: 14	Hmm, I know that watch. Like you said they are trustworthy and do excellent work servicing. They restored a 50s oyster perpetual with a cal 1030 for me, they did a great job. I spoke to them about the watch, I passed on the price they are firm at.

25 January 2012, 06:57 AM	#30
Rjwareagle Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Rollins Location: Tifton Watch: 116660 and more Posts: 286	we do alot of work together ( buying and selling) i have a few i might trade... we will see saturday!

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