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Rollie021 · 22 January 2012, 03:00 AM

Ever since I was in High School (21 years prior) I have always had a passion for Rolex watches, the Day Date President in particular. In 2002 I had to give up my grail goals due to the funding but bought a new Submariner. Since this purchase I have had every SS Rolex Sport model that they currently make (except Sub C and GMT II C). It was now time to finally step up and finally get the watch that sparked my interest in ROLEX to begin with.

Now I am not a rich man, but a public servant whose pay is determined on Union Contracts. So to pull this purchase off at this time I had to sell / trade in some of my other watches. I did not want to go through the hassle of trying to sell these watches on my own and did not want to wait until I could find buyers (I'm also very impatient).

So I headed out to my local AD's to wheel and deal. There are now only 3 AD's in my area due to ROLEX taking away dealers. Now I have only one good relationship with the AD that I have bought all my watches through, but wanted to go there last to see how good of a deal I was really going to get. I was in search for a WG DD II with black roman dial.

The first AD I went to is in a mall setting. It was during Xmas time and me and my wife were shopping for other items and were not dressed to impress. They did not have a WG DD II only a YG. I asked to try it on and I was then taken in a back room and locked in an office with 2 employees and my wife (prevent me from running out of the store with it). They did not have a WG in any of their stores and would have to order it. When it came to price they could not give me an exact price until I was certain I was going to order it and leave a deposit. NEXT!!!!

I went to the second AD this time in an attempt to find a sales person that will take me serious to purchase my DD II. I was greeted warmly and had a knowledgable gentleman help me. At first I don't know if he took me serious when I inquired about the DD II, but we had a conversation about the watch and dial configurations. This dealer also did not have a WG DD II but informed me that one was on order. Now the time came to negotiate the deal (trade 2 watches in pay the balance). He asked me if I had ever bought watches from this AD. I truthfully told him that I've attempted to and would like to buy from them but their prices were always the highest. He excused himself to have to go speak with the Manager to see what the best deal he could do. After about 10 minutes he returned and only offered 10 % off retail plus tax. The Manager also did not really want to take the trades and offered me silly prices to avoid it. Off to the last AD!!

Now at the last AD they know I'm serious and are very helpful. This AD also does not have a WG DD II to look at and had to order it. The price I was given was 20% off retail plus tax. Now it was time to talk about the trade in's. Although more receptive than the 2nd dealer still not a good deal.

So now I contact my Trusted TRF Seller Oscar the "Body Bump". I have purchased two Panerai's from him and have also traded watches to him, all flawless transactions. From the moment I contact Oscar he takes me serious and is very helpful. Oscar researches the WG DD II and informed me that he could get it for me. We work out the price and I'm blown away at how much he was giving me for my trades and the price of the DD II. I place the order with him.

As I said I am an impatient person and I have daily conversations with Oscar. Oscar never made me feel that I was bothering him and in fact I believe he was more excited about getting me this watch than I was getting it. After 1 week and a few days Oscar informs me that my "grail" watch has arrived. The transaction happens as discussed, flawlessly.

I receive the watch and discovered that it arrived as discussed I have a brand new (random serial) WG DD II, all stickers / tags in place, warranty card in my name and dated. PERFECT!!!!!!!

I know some here say the AD experience is worth the extra price.. I would have to disagree on this purchase. Since the watches delivery Oscar has contacted me several times inquiring on how I'm enjoying it.

Lion · 22 January 2012, 03:06 AM

You have a great watch and I'm glad everything worked out and to your satisfaction.....now you can sit back and enjoy!!!

masterserg · 22 January 2012, 03:09 AM

Wow. What a watch!

dddrees · 22 January 2012, 03:13 AM

Excellent choice from a great seller, Congrats.

FremStar · 22 January 2012, 03:14 AM

Great timepiece and great seller in Oscar that you chose! Looks like the kabayan is on a roll this month! Enjoy your DD2 and wear it in good health!

drtooth73 · 22 January 2012, 03:17 AM

Congrats! Great story!
Oscar: you the MAN!

phil0383 · 22 January 2012, 03:21 AM

Congrats on ur new addition. I also got both mine from Oscar as well tt rose dj a year or so ago and a dssd last week smooth transaction. Now ddII is my next victim as soon I replenish my funds

nauticajoe · 22 January 2012, 03:26 AM

A beauty!

Congrats!

warren G. · 22 January 2012, 03:31 AM

Great story, gotta love our trusted sellers here.

azguy · 22 January 2012, 04:03 AM

TRF

Fiery · 22 January 2012, 04:03 AM

Great story! The DD II has quickly became my grail Rolex too, a few months after the initial worries of heft and stuff. White gold models seem to be the rarest at ADs, probably because if one wants a DD II, they want to make it look like it is made of GOLD

My personal favorite is the WG DD II with black arab conic dial.

HL65 · 22 January 2012, 04:05 AM

Great story and great watch from a great guy!! Congrats...

JustABreathAway · 22 January 2012, 04:10 AM

That is a fantastic watch - congratulations! I have seen your watch with white dial Romans in real life and it is FANTASTIC. It doesn't fly under the radar in the least, like an SS model. Rather, it shines with a burning white light - absolutely stunning.

You and I have come to our wonderful DayDateII's from very opposite ends of the spectrum, but I'm sure we both derive a great deal of joy and satisfaction from our Presidents.

I'm curious, are the numerals on your watch white gold? I would LOVE to see more close up shots of your watch to highlight that dial, as I will consider a swamp of my Champagne Romans for that Black Romans when service comes in 5 or 10 years.

snaggle · 22 January 2012, 04:17 AM

I am normally just a sports watch guy, but this WG DDII is just ridiculously beautiful. I really love it. Congrats!

F&Iguy · 22 January 2012, 04:24 AM

good story and glad it all worked out good for you!

mrbill2mrbill2 · 22 January 2012, 04:28 AM

Nice watch! Congrats!

I have never done business with Oscar. From what I've read, including your post, he is a trustworthy individual.

Now if I can just get my kids through college, 5 more painfull years, I'll be in touch with him!

chicagofan · 22 January 2012, 05:02 AM

Congrats! Great DD II. Thanks for sharing your experience and confirming that the trusted sellers on TRF are awesome.

RRGHOST1 · 22 January 2012, 05:11 AM

Very nice watch and seems a good deal too. I got my TT blue Subc from someone on TRF,a great deal and i couldn't be more pleased.

WhatTheDeuce · 22 January 2012, 05:33 AM

The bezel looks multi-colored. Is that just a reflection?

(sweet, btw...

)

jim251 · 22 January 2012, 05:50 AM

Gorgeous watch and great story. Wear it in good health!

Now for the big photos, right?

liuk3 · 22 January 2012, 06:00 AM

Thanks for the story. Sweet watch. More pics please!

1William · 22 January 2012, 06:03 AM

Great story. Thanks for sharing. Great DD II. Enjoy.

SkyKing31 · 22 January 2012, 06:04 AM

Great looking watch .. I am glad Oscar was able to get you the exact watch you were looking for .. Wear it in great health

king arthur · 22 January 2012, 06:04 AM

Congrats on that beauty! Oscar's d man!

Rollie021 · 22 January 2012, 06:13 AM

The Romans are WG.. The bezel is not multi colored.. Sorry bout the photo quality ..

Rollie021 · 22 January 2012, 06:15 AM

Thank you all for the great comments.. This was a personal goal that finally happened for me!!

threemonkeys · 22 January 2012, 06:22 AM

Nice success story and beautiful watch.

It's kind of sad that trying to buy a Rolex from an AD often ends up feeling like you're on a used car lot. I'll buy all my future watches from TRF.

Trouble15 · 22 January 2012, 06:31 AM

Wow a real beautiful time piece! Great story, congrats!!

JustABreathAway · 22 January 2012, 06:42 AM

Fantastic! I'll keep asking for ever more pics, you won't bore me!!

Gharddog03 · 22 January 2012, 07:05 AM

Sweet watch. Congrats

22 January 2012, 03:00 AM	#1
Rollie021 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 37	TRF Seller over AD Ever since I was in High School (21 years prior) I have always had a passion for Rolex watches, the Day Date President in particular. In 2002 I had to give up my grail goals due to the funding but bought a new Submariner. Since this purchase I have had every SS Rolex Sport model that they currently make (except Sub C and GMT II C). It was now time to finally step up and finally get the watch that sparked my interest in ROLEX to begin with. Now I am not a rich man, but a public servant whose pay is determined on Union Contracts. So to pull this purchase off at this time I had to sell / trade in some of my other watches. I did not want to go through the hassle of trying to sell these watches on my own and did not want to wait until I could find buyers (I'm also very impatient). So I headed out to my local AD's to wheel and deal. There are now only 3 AD's in my area due to ROLEX taking away dealers. Now I have only one good relationship with the AD that I have bought all my watches through, but wanted to go there last to see how good of a deal I was really going to get. I was in search for a WG DD II with black roman dial. The first AD I went to is in a mall setting. It was during Xmas time and me and my wife were shopping for other items and were not dressed to impress. They did not have a WG DD II only a YG. I asked to try it on and I was then taken in a back room and locked in an office with 2 employees and my wife (prevent me from running out of the store with it). They did not have a WG in any of their stores and would have to order it. When it came to price they could not give me an exact price until I was certain I was going to order it and leave a deposit. NEXT!!!! I went to the second AD this time in an attempt to find a sales person that will take me serious to purchase my DD II. I was greeted warmly and had a knowledgable gentleman help me. At first I don't know if he took me serious when I inquired about the DD II, but we had a conversation about the watch and dial configurations. This dealer also did not have a WG DD II but informed me that one was on order. Now the time came to negotiate the deal (trade 2 watches in pay the balance). He asked me if I had ever bought watches from this AD. I truthfully told him that I've attempted to and would like to buy from them but their prices were always the highest. He excused himself to have to go speak with the Manager to see what the best deal he could do. After about 10 minutes he returned and only offered 10 % off retail plus tax. The Manager also did not really want to take the trades and offered me silly prices to avoid it. Off to the last AD!! Now at the last AD they know I'm serious and are very helpful. This AD also does not have a WG DD II to look at and had to order it. The price I was given was 20% off retail plus tax. Now it was time to talk about the trade in's. Although more receptive than the 2nd dealer still not a good deal. So now I contact my Trusted TRF Seller Oscar the "Body Bump". I have purchased two Panerai's from him and have also traded watches to him, all flawless transactions. From the moment I contact Oscar he takes me serious and is very helpful. Oscar researches the WG DD II and informed me that he could get it for me. We work out the price and I'm blown away at how much he was giving me for my trades and the price of the DD II. I place the order with him. As I said I am an impatient person and I have daily conversations with Oscar. Oscar never made me feel that I was bothering him and in fact I believe he was more excited about getting me this watch than I was getting it. After 1 week and a few days Oscar informs me that my "grail" watch has arrived. The transaction happens as discussed, flawlessly. I receive the watch and discovered that it arrived as discussed I have a brand new (random serial) WG DD II, all stickers / tags in place, warranty card in my name and dated. PERFECT!!!!!!! I know some here say the AD experience is worth the extra price.. I would have to disagree on this purchase. Since the watches delivery Oscar has contacted me several times inquiring on how I'm enjoying it.

22 January 2012, 03:06 AM	#2
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	You have a great watch and I'm glad everything worked out and to your satisfaction.....now you can sit back and enjoy!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

22 January 2012, 03:09 AM	#3
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	Wow. What a watch! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

22 January 2012, 03:13 AM	#4
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Excellent choice from a great seller, Congrats. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

22 January 2012, 03:14 AM	#5
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	Great timepiece and great seller in Oscar that you chose! Looks like the kabayan is on a roll this month! Enjoy your DD2 and wear it in good health! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

22 January 2012, 03:17 AM	#6
drtooth73 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: W. Stutman Location: Motor City Watch: TT GMT IIC Posts: 2,223	Congrats! Great story! Oscar: you the MAN!

22 January 2012, 03:21 AM	#7
phil0383 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tx Posts: 45	Congrats on ur new addition. I also got both mine from Oscar as well tt rose dj a year or so ago and a dssd last week smooth transaction. Now ddII is my next victim as soon I replenish my funds

22 January 2012, 03:26 AM	#8
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	A beauty! Congrats!

22 January 2012, 03:31 AM	#9
warren G. "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Duy Location: New Orleans, LA Watch: Speedmaster 3861 Posts: 1,925	Great story, gotta love our trusted sellers here. __________________ De gustibus non est disputandum.

22 January 2012, 04:03 AM	#10
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	TRF

22 January 2012, 04:03 AM	#11
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	Great story! The DD II has quickly became my grail Rolex too, a few months after the initial worries of heft and stuff. White gold models seem to be the rarest at ADs, probably because if one wants a DD II, they want to make it look like it is made of GOLD My personal favorite is the WG DD II with black arab conic dial. __________________ "In an age of obsolescence and gimmickry, this simple classic virtue of a Rolex is indeed a rarity." (Rolex ad from 1974)

22 January 2012, 04:05 AM	#12
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	Great story and great watch from a great guy!! Congrats... __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

22 January 2012, 04:10 AM	#13
JustABreathAway Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Watch: The Reference Posts: 1,743	That is a fantastic watch - congratulations! I have seen your watch with white dial Romans in real life and it is FANTASTIC. It doesn't fly under the radar in the least, like an SS model. Rather, it shines with a burning white light - absolutely stunning. You and I have come to our wonderful DayDateII's from very opposite ends of the spectrum, but I'm sure we both derive a great deal of joy and satisfaction from our Presidents. I'm curious, are the numerals on your watch white gold? I would LOVE to see more close up shots of your watch to highlight that dial, as I will consider a swamp of my Champagne Romans for that Black Romans when service comes in 5 or 10 years.

22 January 2012, 04:17 AM	#14
snaggle Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Paul Location: Florida Watch: SubC, DJII, Omegas Posts: 768	I am normally just a sports watch guy, but this WG DDII is just ridiculously beautiful. I really love it. Congrats!

22 January 2012, 04:24 AM	#15
F&Iguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WA state Watch: EXP 39mm Posts: 278	good story and glad it all worked out good for you!

22 January 2012, 04:28 AM	#16
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Nice watch! Congrats! I have never done business with Oscar. From what I've read, including your post, he is a trustworthy individual. Now if I can just get my kids through college, 5 more painfull years, I'll be in touch with him! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

22 January 2012, 05:02 AM	#17
chicagofan "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Howard Location: Chicago Posts: 3,588	Congrats! Great DD II. Thanks for sharing your experience and confirming that the trusted sellers on TRF are awesome.

22 January 2012, 05:11 AM	#18
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,997	Very nice watch and seems a good deal too. I got my TT blue Subc from someone on TRF,a great deal and i couldn't be more pleased.

22 January 2012, 05:33 AM	#19
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	The bezel looks multi-colored. Is that just a reflection? (sweet, btw... ) __________________ Instagram: @whatthedeuce_

22 January 2012, 05:50 AM	#20
jim251 Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: VA Posts: 591	Gorgeous watch and great story. Wear it in good health! Now for the big photos, right?

22 January 2012, 06:00 AM	#21
liuk3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,354	Thanks for the story. Sweet watch. More pics please! __________________ "Appreciate your life!"

22 January 2012, 06:03 AM	#22
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,776	Great story. Thanks for sharing. Great DD II. Enjoy.

22 January 2012, 06:04 AM	#23
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	Great looking watch .. I am glad Oscar was able to get you the exact watch you were looking for .. Wear it in great health

22 January 2012, 06:04 AM	#24
king arthur "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Arthur Location: Manila Watch: Daytona Posts: 278	Congrats on that beauty! Oscar's d man!

22 January 2012, 06:13 AM	#25
Rollie021 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 37	The Romans are WG.. The bezel is not multi colored.. Sorry bout the photo quality ..

22 January 2012, 06:15 AM	#26
Rollie021 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Michigan USA Posts: 37	Thank you all for the great comments.. This was a personal goal that finally happened for me!!

22 January 2012, 06:22 AM	#27
threemonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Craig Location: Seattle-ish, USA Watch: GMTIIc, AK, LVc Posts: 7,022	Nice success story and beautiful watch. It's kind of sad that trying to buy a Rolex from an AD often ends up feeling like you're on a used car lot. I'll buy all my future watches from TRF.

22 January 2012, 06:31 AM	#28
Trouble15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: USA Watch: A few Posts: 8,883	Wow a real beautiful time piece! Great story, congrats!!

22 January 2012, 06:42 AM	#29
JustABreathAway Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Watch: The Reference Posts: 1,743	Fantastic! I'll keep asking for ever more pics, you won't bore me!!

22 January 2012, 07:05 AM	#30
Gharddog03 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Genaro Location: Fresno Ca. Watch: R O L E X Posts: 4,466	Sweet watch. Congrats

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