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FX44 · 8 February 2012, 12:03 AM

Can this be done by an AD or would you have to take it to an independent jeweler/horologist? I'm curious what crystal was used to replace the original. Personally I like it.

Obviously this guy did it. What do you guys think?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f291/su...-a-506244.html

superdog · 8 February 2012, 12:09 AM

Love the idea. Much prefer it without. I'll be following this thread to see if I learn anything new. So far, it appears the process is pretty difficult.

azguy · 8 February 2012, 12:25 AM

My AD says the cyclops is easily popped off the crystal

every AD may be different, so you milage may vary....

dddrees · 8 February 2012, 12:29 AM

There are numerous threads discussing a couple of different ways in which this can be done. Some members have actually done so by accident when the dropped their watch. Their are quite a few have done so on purpose as well.

Here is just one of thjose threads.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=2921514

kilyung · 8 February 2012, 12:56 AM

Don't the new ceramics have AR under the cyclops? It would look funny without cyclops and an area of non-glare. I'd get a replacement crystal without cyclops and put that on, saving your original for future re-install.

smallcandle · 8 February 2012, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Don't the new ceramics have AR under the cyclops? It would look funny without cyclops and an area of non-glare. I'd get a replacement crystal without cyclops and put that on, saving your original for future re-install.

Exactly. Get a new crystal w/out the cyclops and have it installed.

SaddleSC · 8 February 2012, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Don't the new ceramics have AR under the cyclops? It would look funny without cyclops and an area of non-glare. I'd get a replacement crystal without cyclops and put that on, saving your original for future re-install.

^^100% Correct, a replacement is the only proper way to do it.

Lion · 8 February 2012, 02:25 AM

As has been stated, the removal can be done but I would go the route of a different crystal and save the original!!!

EchoBlueUK · 8 February 2012, 05:13 AM

I don't like it. It looks weird.

RRGHOST1 · 8 February 2012, 05:19 AM

Looks ok and a very clean look but i dont think i would do it to my Blue SubC.

dddrees · 8 February 2012, 05:30 AM

If you ever get older you'll wish had kept it.

JasoninDenver · 8 February 2012, 05:40 AM

I have thought seriously about doing this to my Exp II as the reflective glare makes it hard to see from any but the perfect angle.

I have done this with a couple of other watches and have liked the result.

I do not feel the desire to do it the my SubC. The AR coating under the cyclops solves the glare problem.

Time2time · 8 February 2012, 05:55 AM

Nope, not for me.

Each to their own obviously.

imono · 8 February 2012, 06:38 AM

If you must ...

HERITAGE82 · 10 May 2012, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Time2time

Nope, not for me.

Each to their own obviously.

X 2....

MrD700 · 8 February 2012, 06:53 AM

As much as the cyclop is a Rolex icon, your SubC really looks neater without it. I called the local RSC here in Toronto and asked two questions:
1. Can my SubC crystal be replaced with one minus the cyclop: NO
2. Is there a replacement crystal for the SubC without the cyclop: NO

If one is desperate to get rid of it, you would have to go somewhere other than an RSC to have it done.

smartson · 8 February 2012, 07:01 AM

I didn't like the cyclop when I was young with perfect eye sight.

Now I need my cyclop.

Rags · 8 February 2012, 07:55 AM

I like the cyclop... My eyes aren't what they used to be..

xjeeunitx · 8 February 2012, 07:59 AM

Not my cup of tea... Go buy a SD if you don't want a cyclops, why ruin a perfectly fine watch.

ecsub44 · 8 February 2012, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

Not my cup of tea... Go buy a SD if you don't want a cyclops, why ruin a perfectly fine watch.

It's not "ruining" a watch. It can always be replaced.

It's like saying changing the bracelet for a leather strap is ruining a watch.

dalip · 8 February 2012, 10:03 AM

Getting a new crystal is probably the best way to go. Not something I would do though. It's what makes the sub date...distinguishes it....and I've always liked the cyclops. Ever since I started to notice Rolex watches it was the cyclops as a feature that made me aware of them.

Runnin' Rebel · 8 February 2012, 10:07 AM

It's hard for me to see my cyclop, or is it cyclops ? Hard to the read the date with it, without it forget it.

Tools · 8 February 2012, 10:31 AM

If you read through the thread you will see that they are using aftermarket crystals... Aftermarket crystals of the size used by Rolex are readily available and any watchmaker can change them for you..

However, you still will abide by Rolex rule for aftermarket parts on your watch..

mhaedo · 8 February 2012, 01:13 PM

For years I hated the cyclops with a passion. However, it slowly started to grow on me, and now I cannot imagine my Sub-C without it. The asymmetry makes the watch, in my opinion. Oh well, to each his own.

Mickey® · 8 February 2012, 01:25 PM

Nope.

W-S Tiger · 8 February 2012, 01:57 PM

Very nice cyclopless.......really cleans it up. Too bad u can not get it either way from Rolex

wokafu · 8 February 2012, 02:00 PM

wow i admire the courage...hey...whatever makes you happy right..?

z32turbo · 8 February 2012, 02:18 PM

I've never seen it but it's seems like something would be missing.

moby33 · 8 February 2012, 02:46 PM

When I was younger I use to think the cyclops was a terrible afterthought and demonstrated extremely shortsighted (no pun intended) design quality on the part of Rolex. I thought, "Seriously...you design a too small date window and your 'solution' is to stick a magnifying glass on the surface of the lens.

" (and truth be told, I think I still kind of believe that).

But as I've grown older and considered the decades this feature has been on the Sub-Date, not to mention the plethora of copycat brands that have also introduced their own cyclops, the iconic status of what the cyclops represents was finally fully appreciated by me.

And to that point, I just can't embrace a Sub-Date sans cyclops. As others have said, if you absolutely despise the look of a cyclops, I would recommend going the SD4000 route instead of messing with the most overt identity of an icon.

Feras · 8 February 2012, 03:24 PM

Love the idea but wouldn't wana do it to my watch. Especially not to my DJ.

8 February 2012, 12:03 AM	#1
FX44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: John Location: Charlotte, NC Watch: Submariner 114060 Posts: 518	Sub-C with Cyclops-Free Crystal Can this be done by an AD or would you have to take it to an independent jeweler/horologist? I'm curious what crystal was used to replace the original. Personally I like it. Obviously this guy did it. What do you guys think? http://forums.watchuseek.com/f291/su...-a-506244.html __________________ Submariner 114060

8 February 2012, 12:09 AM	#2
superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	Love the idea. Much prefer it without. I'll be following this thread to see if I learn anything new. So far, it appears the process is pretty difficult. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

8 February 2012, 12:29 AM	#4
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	There are numerous threads discussing a couple of different ways in which this can be done. Some members have actually done so by accident when the dropped their watch. Their are quite a few have done so on purpose as well. Here is just one of thjose threads. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=2921514 __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

8 February 2012, 02:25 AM	#8
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	As has been stated, the removal can be done but I would go the route of a different crystal and save the original!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

8 February 2012, 05:30 AM	#11
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	If you ever get older you'll wish had kept it. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

8 February 2012, 12:25 AM	#3
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	My AD says the cyclops is easily popped off the crystal every AD may be different, so you milage may vary....

8 February 2012, 12:56 AM	#5
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Don't the new ceramics have AR under the cyclops? It would look funny without cyclops and an area of non-glare. I'd get a replacement crystal without cyclops and put that on, saving your original for future re-install.

8 February 2012, 05:13 AM	#9
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	I don't like it. It looks weird.

8 February 2012, 05:19 AM	#10
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 3,997	Looks ok and a very clean look but i dont think i would do it to my Blue SubC.

8 February 2012, 05:40 AM	#12
JasoninDenver 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Denver Posts: 4,284	I have thought seriously about doing this to my Exp II as the reflective glare makes it hard to see from any but the perfect angle. I have done this with a couple of other watches and have liked the result. I do not feel the desire to do it the my SubC. The AR coating under the cyclops solves the glare problem. __________________ Jason 116610 LN DateJust Pelagos FXD

8 February 2012, 05:55 AM	#13
Time2time Banned Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: U.K Watch: Milgauss GV, Sub-C Posts: 2,178	Nope, not for me. Each to their own obviously.

8 February 2012, 06:38 AM	#14
imono "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: USA Posts: 3,241	If you must ... Attached Images

8 February 2012, 06:53 AM	#16
MrD700 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Toronto Watch: 116610LN Posts: 14	It's a NO from the RSC. As much as the cyclop is a Rolex icon, your SubC really looks neater without it. I called the local RSC here in Toronto and asked two questions: 1. Can my SubC crystal be replaced with one minus the cyclop: NO 2. Is there a replacement crystal for the SubC without the cyclop: NO If one is desperate to get rid of it, you would have to go somewhere other than an RSC to have it done.

8 February 2012, 07:01 AM	#17
smartson "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Roger Location: Toronto Posts: 604	I didn't like the cyclop when I was young with perfect eye sight. Now I need my cyclop. __________________ 116610LV Tudor 79190 Seiko MM300 Seiko SDGM001

8 February 2012, 07:55 AM	#18
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,196	I like the cyclop... My eyes aren't what they used to be.. __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

8 February 2012, 07:59 AM	#19
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,529	Not my cup of tea... Go buy a SD if you don't want a cyclops, why ruin a perfectly fine watch.

8 February 2012, 10:03 AM	#21
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Getting a new crystal is probably the best way to go. Not something I would do though. It's what makes the sub date...distinguishes it....and I've always liked the cyclops. Ever since I started to notice Rolex watches it was the cyclops as a feature that made me aware of them. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

8 February 2012, 10:07 AM	#22
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	It's hard for me to see my cyclop, or is it cyclops ? Hard to the read the date with it, without it forget it. __________________ ♛

8 February 2012, 10:31 AM	#23
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	If you read through the thread you will see that they are using aftermarket crystals... Aftermarket crystals of the size used by Rolex are readily available and any watchmaker can change them for you.. However, you still will abide by Rolex rule for aftermarket parts on your watch.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

8 February 2012, 01:13 PM	#24
mhaedo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Matt Location: United States Watch: 116264 Posts: 149	For years I hated the cyclops with a passion. However, it slowly started to grow on me, and now I cannot imagine my Sub-C without it. The asymmetry makes the watch, in my opinion. Oh well, to each his own.

8 February 2012, 01:25 PM	#25
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	Nope.

8 February 2012, 01:57 PM	#26
W-S Tiger Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NC Posts: 27	Very nice cyclopless.......really cleans it up. Too bad u can not get it either way from Rolex

8 February 2012, 02:00 PM	#27
wokafu "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Malaysia Watch: SM300+14060M Posts: 2,012	wow i admire the courage...hey...whatever makes you happy right..?

8 February 2012, 02:18 PM	#28
z32turbo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sea Level Watch: Varies Posts: 6,877	I've never seen it but it's seems like something would be missing. __________________ Instagram @z32turbo

8 February 2012, 02:46 PM	#29
moby33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Huntington Beach Watch: Rolex/Omega/Seiko Posts: 2,560	When I was younger I use to think the cyclops was a terrible afterthought and demonstrated extremely shortsighted (no pun intended) design quality on the part of Rolex. I thought, "Seriously...you design a too small date window and your 'solution' is to stick a magnifying glass on the surface of the lens. " (and truth be told, I think I still kind of believe that). But as I've grown older and considered the decades this feature has been on the Sub-Date, not to mention the plethora of copycat brands that have also introduced their own cyclops, the iconic status of what the cyclops represents was finally fully appreciated by me. And to that point, I just can't embrace a Sub-Date sans cyclops. As others have said, if you absolutely despise the look of a cyclops, I would recommend going the SD4000 route instead of messing with the most overt identity of an icon.

8 February 2012, 03:24 PM	#30
Feras Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Feras Location: Bahrain Watch: Rolex,Tag Posts: 1,923	Love the idea but wouldn't wana do it to my watch. Especially not to my DJ.

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