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greekbum · 15 March 2012, 11:47 AM

Have a look at this vintage Submariner.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-5512-S...item35ba730ab6
Advert says
THIS SALE IS FOR A RARE SUBMARINER THAT IS BELONG TO A FRIEND OF MINE.HE WORKED AS A PILOT FOR THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AND THIS WATCH WAS GIVEN TO HEM AS A GIFT.WATCH WAS WORN OCCAIONALY AND WAS NEVER ABUSED.THE ONLY TIME THIS WATCH WAS SERVICED WAS LAST OCTOBER.ALL ORIGINAL NO AFTER MARKET COMPONENTS WHAT SO EVER,EVEN THE CRYSTAL WAS POLISHED WITH NO SCRATCHES.BAND LINKS IS ALL COMPLETE AND IS TIGHT.COMES WITH ROLEX CERTIFICATE BUT SORRY NO BOX.SERIAL # 1772XXX SIRCA 1964.

Were do I start ?

The dial? Original?

It wasn't refinished last year during the only service was it?

The band tight? LOL the links are all cornered and worn. About as worn as you can get.

A good example of .......

dieseldragon · 15 March 2012, 03:39 PM

The bracelet looks like scrap to me. Is it just me, or do the centre links look polished?

BOA · 15 March 2012, 03:42 PM

They do look polished.

greekbum · 1 April 2012, 01:36 PM

Relisted again read his answers to the Q&A...lol
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-5512-S...item3cc4440fd3

wunderkinde · 1 April 2012, 01:58 PM

The watch is different, but isn't the ad text similar to a fake Tudor from a few weeks ago? (the whole "Saudi royal family" bit)

mcjp6 · 1 April 2012, 05:31 PM

Something not right here.

Serial number claimed as 1.7M and circa 1964. That does not add up, especially so as the placement of SUBMARINER above the depth rating did not come into being until the mid to late 1970s.

For a 1.7M serial the dial should be meters first not feet first and where is the "Swiss - T <25"......

greekbum · 1 April 2012, 11:02 PM

THIS SALE IS FOR A RARE SUBMARINER THAT IS BELONG TO A FRIEND OF MINE.HE WORKED AS A PILOT FOR THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AND THIS WATCH WAS GIVEN TO HEM AS A GIFT.WATCH WAS WORN OCCAIONALY AND WAS NEVER ABUSED.THE ONLY TIME THIS WATCH WAS SERVICED WAS LAST OCTOBER.ALL ORIGINAL NO AFTER MARKET COMPONENTS WHAT SO EVER,EVEN THE CRYSTAL WAS POLISHED WITH NO SCRATCHES.BAND LINKS IS ALL COMPLETE AND IS TIGHT.COMES WITH ROLEX CERTIFICATE BUT SORRY NO BOX.SERIAL # 1772XXX SIRCA 1964.

A GOOD COLLECTION WATCH FOR ANY ONE HWO ENJOY COLLECTING VINTAGE TIME PIECE

ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK.

The dial is 100% redone and the band did not start its life with this watch for starters but he is claiming all original and never serviced until last october.If he is not telling the truth there well.........Buyer beware as you wont be getting what he is claiming

mcjp6 · 1 April 2012, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greekbum

The dial is 100% redone and the band did not start its life with this watch for starters but he is claiming all original and never serviced until last october.If he is not telling the truth there well.........Buyer beware as you wont be getting what he is claiming

Maybe so Nikos, and I agree with your comments, , but if we need to remove this listing we need to have clear facts to present to eBay in order to back up our claims.....

Working on it.....

Goiguidoc · 2 April 2012, 09:47 AM

I fully agree with all the comments.
The dial is 100% redone: I have never seen any gilt dial with Feet first.
The band is a later 78360, which doesn't correspond to the production year of the watch. Strange when the seller claims that all parts are original...
Also, the seller's explanations are the same BS we read all the time...

The description of the watch is misleading and not accurate at all, but is it enough to remove this listing?

mcjp6 · 2 April 2012, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goiguidoc

The band is a later 78360, which doesn't correspond to the production year of the watch.

Thanks Greg....

A TRS, so this may take a little time.......but, that may be the final straw that we need.........

Wacker23 · 11 April 2012, 12:26 PM

Sold for 5k really?

MoBe · 11 April 2012, 06:22 PM

The listing says bidding has ended on the item and the seller has relisted the item or one like it.

15 March 2012, 11:47 AM	#1
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Misleading to say the least Have a look at this vintage Submariner. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-5512-S...item35ba730ab6 Advert says THIS SALE IS FOR A RARE SUBMARINER THAT IS BELONG TO A FRIEND OF MINE.HE WORKED AS A PILOT FOR THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AND THIS WATCH WAS GIVEN TO HEM AS A GIFT.WATCH WAS WORN OCCAIONALY AND WAS NEVER ABUSED.THE ONLY TIME THIS WATCH WAS SERVICED WAS LAST OCTOBER.ALL ORIGINAL NO AFTER MARKET COMPONENTS WHAT SO EVER,EVEN THE CRYSTAL WAS POLISHED WITH NO SCRATCHES.BAND LINKS IS ALL COMPLETE AND IS TIGHT.COMES WITH ROLEX CERTIFICATE BUT SORRY NO BOX.SERIAL # 1772XXX SIRCA 1964. Were do I start ? The dial? Original? It wasn't refinished last year during the only service was it? The band tight? LOL the links are all cornered and worn. About as worn as you can get. A good example of ....... __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

15 March 2012, 03:39 PM	#2
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	The bracelet looks like scrap to me. Is it just me, or do the centre links look polished? __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

1 April 2012, 01:36 PM	#4
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Relisted again read his answers to the Q&A...lol http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-5512-S...item3cc4440fd3 __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

1 April 2012, 11:02 PM	#7
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	THIS SALE IS FOR A RARE SUBMARINER THAT IS BELONG TO A FRIEND OF MINE.HE WORKED AS A PILOT FOR THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY AND THIS WATCH WAS GIVEN TO HEM AS A GIFT.WATCH WAS WORN OCCAIONALY AND WAS NEVER ABUSED.THE ONLY TIME THIS WATCH WAS SERVICED WAS LAST OCTOBER.ALL ORIGINAL NO AFTER MARKET COMPONENTS WHAT SO EVER,EVEN THE CRYSTAL WAS POLISHED WITH NO SCRATCHES.BAND LINKS IS ALL COMPLETE AND IS TIGHT.COMES WITH ROLEX CERTIFICATE BUT SORRY NO BOX.SERIAL # 1772XXX SIRCA 1964. A GOOD COLLECTION WATCH FOR ANY ONE HWO ENJOY COLLECTING VINTAGE TIME PIECE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE ASK. The dial is 100% redone and the band did not start its life with this watch for starters but he is claiming all original and never serviced until last october.If he is not telling the truth there well.........Buyer beware as you wont be getting what he is claiming __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

15 March 2012, 03:42 PM	#3
BOA "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Bruce Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Meteorite DD Posts: 2,407	They do look polished.

1 April 2012, 01:58 PM	#5
wunderkinde Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 40	The watch is different, but isn't the ad text similar to a fake Tudor from a few weeks ago? (the whole "Saudi royal family" bit)

1 April 2012, 05:31 PM	#6
mcjp6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Michael Location: VK2 - AUS Watch: 5513s Posts: 7,380	Something not right here. Serial number claimed as 1.7M and circa 1964. That does not add up, especially so as the placement of SUBMARINER above the depth rating did not come into being until the mid to late 1970s. For a 1.7M serial the dial should be meters first not feet first and where is the "Swiss - T <25"......

2 April 2012, 09:47 AM	#9
Goiguidoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: Europe Watch: Rolex vintage Posts: 1,062	I fully agree with all the comments. The dial is 100% redone: I have never seen any gilt dial with Feet first. The band is a later 78360, which doesn't correspond to the production year of the watch. Strange when the seller claims that all parts are original... Also, the seller's explanations are the same BS we read all the time... The description of the watch is misleading and not accurate at all, but is it enough to remove this listing?

11 April 2012, 12:26 PM	#11
Wacker23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Brooklyn ny Watch: Rolex sub Posts: 504	Sold for 5k really?

11 April 2012, 06:22 PM	#12
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	The listing says bidding has ended on the item and the seller has relisted the item or one like it.

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