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2 November 2005, 07:10 AM

All the Rolex watches have names, which I think is way cooler and better maketing than a simple number designation (although Panerai has it right by limiting to three digits, after that my dyslexia sets in).

But in terms of the awesome and mighty Explorer II, I've never understood why the genius' at Rolex gave it that name. I mean, it bears absolutely no resemblance to the original Explorer, the movement is completely different and it has always offered two more complications than the Explorer.

Since the watch was 'designed' for speleologists, why not give it a more robust name like CaveDweller, or CaveMaster or SpeleMaster...

If you ever look into Dowling's book, Rolex has legal claim to a plethora of watch names (prolly more than is listed there now), so why didn't they get more creative? Oops, I'm talking about Rolex... I forgot.

I just don't get the connect between this speleologist's watch and the original Explorer.

dman · 2 November 2005, 07:26 AM

They treid HoleMaster, but the pimps were flocking to the AD's to buy them all up.

Uncle-AJ · 2 November 2005, 07:38 AM

I think it's a spelunking good name.

2 November 2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dman

They treid HoleMaster, but the pimps were flocking to the AD's to buy them all up.

Nice one Daren!!

2 November 2005, 08:58 AM

When you figure out Explorer II, then tackle Yacht-Master for me, will ya?

Even though I own one, I have no idea how the name fits with real life.....oh yeah, what John said.....this is Rolex, not real life. My bad.

dman · 2 November 2005, 09:19 AM

Well let me answer the second one Al. It simply means that the YM is good for timing yacht races, hence the bi-directional bezel to track the start of the race. Also, it is the master, since the watch is only fit for the captain, a man of class and distinction, like us.

molex · 2 November 2005, 09:22 AM

I agree completely, the Explorer II is a misnomer in the line-up. The only other II is the GMT Master II, which makes sense because it's an evolution of the GMT Master. Like you say, the Exp. II bears little resemblence to the original, why the connection.

One of the names Rolex trademarked was "Frogman". I love that. Instead of a James Bond Submariner, I'd like to own a James Bond Frogman. Any watch with the word "frog" right in the name is my new favorite watch.

dman · 2 November 2005, 09:24 AM

Here ya go Micah.

http://www.muppetcentral.com/collect.../watches.shtml

mailman · 2 November 2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dman

They treid HoleMaster, but the pimps were flocking to the AD's to buy them all up.

Funny Daren.

BruceS · 2 November 2005, 11:11 AM

Daren that was too funny mate. Lay off my pain pills

John, the name makes no sense to me either, but like you said, it's Rolex so it doesn't have to

dman · 2 November 2005, 11:19 AM

Hey they could have called it the "Watch for exploring Caves" would have been as imaginitive as "DateJust". I bet that one took years to think up.

Atl · 2 November 2005, 01:06 PM

I always wondered why the Turn o Graph was named Thunderbird??

Been watching Commander in Chief as I was writing this, and I've got to say, Geena Davis is sooo HOT!! She's got my vote!

dman · 2 November 2005, 01:08 PM

I heard that was an unofficial name given because it was the watch of choice of the pilots of the Thunderbirds. Not 100% though.

dman · 2 November 2005, 01:09 PM

Geena doesn't do it for me, but neither does the Daytona, so variety is the spice of life.

JJ Irani · 2 November 2005, 02:37 PM

What's in a name, guys? A rose by any other name....

dman · 2 November 2005, 02:39 PM

Yeah, you never obsess over anything about Rolex JJ.

JJ Irani · 2 November 2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dman

Yeah, you never obsess over anything about Rolex JJ.

Oh, don't get me wrong.....I do obsess over Rolex, but I'm quite content with their existing names!!

dman · 2 November 2005, 02:42 PM

Not now that you are thinking about it you aren't.

Pete26 · 2 November 2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by molex

I agree completely, the Explorer II is a misnomer in the line-up. The only other II is the GMT Master II, which makes sense because it's an evolution of the GMT Master. Like you say, the Exp. II bears little resemblence to the original, why the connection.

One of the names Rolex trademarked was "Frogman". I love that. Instead of a James Bond Submariner, I'd like to own a James Bond Frogman. Any watch with the word "frog" right in the name is my new favorite watch.

Like the "kermit"

padi56 · 2 November 2005, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dman

They treid HoleMaster, but the pimps were flocking to the AD's to buy them all up.

Nice one Daren

but whats in a name,well Rolex for one, its got to be the name that nearly everyone on the planet knows.

2 November 2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dman

Geena doesn't do it for me, but neither does the Daytona, so variety is the spice of life.

I agree - the first time I saw her in person, I thought she was, well, kinda ugly.........It didn't get better with any subsequent time I saw her either.

Funny, all the women around us thought she looked better in person, and all the men thought the opposite.

In case you were wondering, she tried to make the US Olympic archery team in 2000. She wasn't a great shot, but the US womens side isn't very deep, so it looked like she came close when she didn't. We saw her at tournaments all over the US in 1999 and 2000........

Earl · 2 November 2005, 10:19 PM

LoL

2 November 2005, 11:41 PM

I liked Geena when she was young but not much of a fan now (except for the fact that she's what, six feet tall? Yowsa!).

Rather than see Geena Davis in archery, I'm much rather see Lucy Liu on a training ride (cycling = spandex!).

BTW, I agree with Micah that Frogman is a much cooler name for a dive watch. I kinda like CAVE DWELLER for the ExpII... more of a macho, cave-man kinda feel.

JJ Irani · 3 November 2005, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

I liked Geena when she was young but not much of a fan now (except for the fact that she's what, six feet tall? Yowsa!).

Rather than see Geena Davis in archery, I'm much rather see Lucy Liu on a training ride (cycling = spandex!).

BTW, I agree with Micah that Frogman is a much cooler name for a dive watch. I kinda like CAVE DWELLER for the ExpII... more of a macho, cave-man kinda feel.

Nah....prefer EXPLORER.....Cave Dweller would make the watch sound too pre-historic!!

3 November 2005, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

I liked Geena when she was young but not much of a fan now (except for the fact that she's what, six feet tall? Yowsa!).

Rather than see Geena Davis in archery, I'm much rather see Lucy Liu on a training ride (cycling = spandex!).

Not sure how tall she is, but she sure stood out on the shooting line......

From the 1999 Arizona Cup held in Tucson......

mailman · 3 November 2005, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

I liked Geena when she was young but not much of a fan now (except for the fact that she's what, six feet tall? Yowsa!).

Rather than see Geena Davis in archery, I'm much rather see Lucy Liu on a training ride (cycling = spandex!).

BTW, I agree with Micah that Frogman is a much cooler name for a dive watch. I kinda like CAVE DWELLER for the ExpII... more of a macho, cave-man kinda feel.

Lucy Liu in spandedx. Now you're talkin Johnny.

dman · 3 November 2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Lucy Liu in spandedx. Now you're talkin Johnny.

I'll vote for that one!!

3 November 2005, 11:25 PM

I may be a cave man, but me know what me likes!

dman · 4 November 2005, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

I may be a cave man, but me know what me likes!

2 November 2005, 07:10 AM	#1
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	This has always stuck in my craw... All the Rolex watches have names, which I think is way cooler and better maketing than a simple number designation (although Panerai has it right by limiting to three digits, after that my dyslexia sets in). But in terms of the awesome and mighty Explorer II, I've never understood why the genius' at Rolex gave it that name. I mean, it bears absolutely no resemblance to the original Explorer, the movement is completely different and it has always offered two more complications than the Explorer. Since the watch was 'designed' for speleologists, why not give it a more robust name like CaveDweller, or CaveMaster or SpeleMaster... If you ever look into Dowling's book, Rolex has legal claim to a plethora of watch names (prolly more than is listed there now), so why didn't they get more creative? Oops, I'm talking about Rolex... I forgot. I just don't get the connect between this speleologist's watch and the original Explorer.

2 November 2005, 07:26 AM	#2
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	They treid HoleMaster, but the pimps were flocking to the AD's to buy them all up. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 07:38 AM	#3
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	I think it's a spelunking good name. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

2 November 2005, 09:19 AM	#6
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Well let me answer the second one Al. It simply means that the YM is good for timing yacht races, hence the bi-directional bezel to track the start of the race. Also, it is the master, since the watch is only fit for the captain, a man of class and distinction, like us. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 09:22 AM	#7
molex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 220	I agree completely, the Explorer II is a misnomer in the line-up. The only other II is the GMT Master II, which makes sense because it's an evolution of the GMT Master. Like you say, the Exp. II bears little resemblence to the original, why the connection. One of the names Rolex trademarked was "Frogman". I love that. Instead of a James Bond Submariner, I'd like to own a James Bond Frogman. Any watch with the word "frog" right in the name is my new favorite watch. __________________ "Through the tool watch, Rolex became allied not just with dependability and accuracy, but with great human achievement." Vintage Rolex Sports Models Skeet & Urul

2 November 2005, 08:58 AM	#5
---- Guest Posts: n/a	When you figure out Explorer II, then tackle Yacht-Master for me, will ya? Even though I own one, I have no idea how the name fits with real life.....oh yeah, what John said.....this is Rolex, not real life. My bad.

2 November 2005, 09:24 AM	#8
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Here ya go Micah. http://www.muppetcentral.com/collect.../watches.shtml __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 11:11 AM	#10
BruceS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Sir Daft Location: Cornwall, UK Watch: Too many Posts: 2,464	Daren that was too funny mate. Lay off my pain pills John, the name makes no sense to me either, but like you said, it's Rolex so it doesn't have to

2 November 2005, 11:19 AM	#11
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Hey they could have called it the "Watch for exploring Caves" would have been as imaginitive as "DateJust". I bet that one took years to think up. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 01:06 PM	#12
Atl Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: David Location: Sandy Springs, Ga Watch: GMT II, new Subbie Posts: 937	Since we are talking about names I always wondered why the Turn o Graph was named Thunderbird?? Been watching Commander in Chief as I was writing this, and I've got to say, Geena Davis is sooo HOT!! She's got my vote!

2 November 2005, 01:08 PM	#13
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	I heard that was an unofficial name given because it was the watch of choice of the pilots of the Thunderbirds. Not 100% though. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 01:09 PM	#14
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Geena doesn't do it for me, but neither does the Daytona, so variety is the spice of life. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 02:37 PM	#15
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	What's in a name, guys? A rose by any other name.... __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

2 November 2005, 02:39 PM	#16
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Yeah, you never obsess over anything about Rolex JJ. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 02:42 PM	#18
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,585	Not now that you are thinking about it you aren't. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

2 November 2005, 10:19 PM	#22
Earl "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Who Me? Location: Northern Virginia Watch: out Posts: 4,616	LoL

2 November 2005, 11:41 PM	#23
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	I liked Geena when she was young but not much of a fan now (except for the fact that she's what, six feet tall? Yowsa!). Rather than see Geena Davis in archery, I'm much rather see Lucy Liu on a training ride (cycling = spandex!). BTW, I agree with Micah that Frogman is a much cooler name for a dive watch. I kinda like CAVE DWELLER for the ExpII... more of a macho, cave-man kinda feel.

3 November 2005, 11:25 PM	#28
Atomic Guest Posts: n/a	I may be a cave man, but me know what me likes!

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