Let me know what you guys think about this.....

[paultran37]

I recently posted an AD wanting to purchase a Rolex President 118238.
I got an email from a potential seller name Francisco Sanchez. His username is SANFRAN. He joined the forum on April 2012. Anyhow, he said he's got a watch I'm looking. He stated the watch is a V serial, then he sent me someone's else of the watch which is different than what I mentioned. And when he resent the picture of the watch. The warranty card indicate the watch is a D serial!!!!!
Then I told him I decided to pass on this deal because I just don't feel comfortable sending $17k to someone whom I don't think is legit.
I think he's a scam artist if you ask me.
He's now cursing left and right because he said he's legit.

Tell me what your thought are.......

THANKS.

[MonBK]

His story stinks and of course he's cursing, he couldn't cheat you out of 17k.

[T-Rip]

Originally Posted by paultran37

I recently posted an AD wanting to purchase a Rolex President 118238.
I got an email from a potential seller name Francisco Sanchez. His username is SANFRAN. He joined the forum on April 2012. Anyhow, he said he's got a watch I'm looking. He stated the watch is a V serial, then he sent me someone's else of the watch which is different than what I mentioned. And when he resent the picture of the watch. The warranty card indicate the watch is a D serial!!!!!
Then I told him I decided to pass on this deal because I just don't feel comfortable sending $17k to someone whom I don't think is legit.
I think he's a scam artist if you ask me.
He's now cursing left and right because he said he's legit.

Tell me what your thought are.......

THANKS.

You should post up what he's telling you so maybe the MODS will ban him..

[Dan Pierce]

If he was legit he wouldn't be cursing. He would want you to be a satisfied customer, something our best sellers here on TRF strive to do.
dP

[dddrees]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

If he was legit he wouldn't be cursing. He would want you to be a satisfied customer, something our best sellers here on TRF strive to do.
dP

X2

Personally I would be looking to deal with someone with a better and longer reputation in the first place. When trusted seller is used, I normally think of people with a longer and more established history of working with buyers.

Buy the Seller.

[Goiguidoc]

X2!
I wouldn't send such a big amount to someone who just joinded TRF.

[Goiguidoc]

X2!
I wouldn't send such a big amount to someone who just joinded TRF.

[MoBe]

What`s the guys name here on TRF,,,,,,,SANFRAN ?

just checking

[paultran37]

Thank you guys for all your input.
Yes, his username is "SANFRAN".

[paultran37]

Attached are the pictures he sent to me. It seems like he does have the watch but I still think it's not legit.
Also, he said the watch is a V serial.......I don't think so.

[paultran37]

3 pictures with 3 different watch!!!!!!

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by paultran37

I think he's a scam artist if you ask me.

He's now cursing left and right because he said he's legit.

Tell me what your thought are.......

THANKS.

If you can substantiate this I'd be quite happy to zap his membership.

Send this person $17,000?

Not even $17.

[Welshwatchman]

.... just seen his name in the pic.

He's now banned from here.

[mdesa]

Is it me, or is the piece of paper with his name totally photoshopped into the picture????

[paultran37]

Thank you everyone.
Yes, he should be ban from this forum.
Scumbag trying to scam people.

[paultran37]

This is what he wrote guys.....


On Wed, May 9, 2012 2:31 PM EDT Francisco Sanchez wrote:
>
> >
> >Oh am sorry for the wrong picture i sent to you. The second picture i sent to you was what someone sent to me that he is looking i saved in on my desktop which i never knew that was what i sent to you. I have the original box and paper. I will send you pics as soon as i hear back from you.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Francisco
> >
> >
> >
> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:31:51 -0700
> >From: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: FS: Rolex president 118238
> >To: [email protected]
> >
> >by the way, this picture you sent is a different watch.
> >
> >
> >--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Francisco Sanchez <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: Francisco Sanchez <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: FS: Rolex president 118238
> >To: [email protected]
> >Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 1:26 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Am not interested in trading for it i have the box and papers. Here is the watch dealer i bought it from.
> >Cody A Hudson
> >AR 72601
> >United States.
> >[email protected]
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:07:56 -0700
> >From: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: FS: Rolex president 118238
> >To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Do you have box and paper? Do you have references?
> >Are you interested in trading it for 2 of my rolexes?
> >I have 1) rolex yachmaster 16622 - Z serial and 2) rolex daytona 116523 - M serial.
> >Let me know. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >paul
> >
> >--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Francisco Sanchez <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: Francisco Sanchez <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RE: FS: Rolex president 118238
> >To: [email protected]
> >Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 1:00 PM
> >
>
> >Thanks for getting back to me Paul. I am selling a used near-mint V serial Yellow Gold Presidential Day Date with a White Roman dial. This watch is in excellent condition, is 100% authentic, and has 100% original parts. It has never been professionally cleaned or polished and was lightly worn by one owner (me!). I leave it up to the purchaser to polish it if he or she desires, but personally I didn't think it would be worth polishing (see pictures below) because it is in excellent condition and polishing is known to take off small amounts of gold. I'm not a professional watch seller, so I'm not sure how to classify watches beyond what I have stated above.
> >
> >Payment Methods: Bank wire i am willing to go through PayPal if the buyer covers the fees. Price: $17,000 USD
> >
> >Regards,
> >Francisco
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:50:18 -0700
> >From: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: FS: Rolex president 118238
> >To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yes, price and pictures and details please.
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >paul
> >
> >--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Francisco Sanchez <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >From: Francisco Sanchez <[email protected]>
> >Subject: FS: Rolex president 118238
> >To: [email protected]
> >Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 12:47 PM
> >
>
> >I saw you Ad and was wondering if you are still interested in buying. I have mine available for sale.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Francisco

[byeedo]

I would have to look at the pic on a bigger screen but the shadows of the paper font look right on my phone!

[bayerische]

What a scammer, the third picture has some poor photoshopping with his username supposedly written on a piece of paper...

Paul, excellent Ban!

[big972]

What a scumbag... Great that he's now banned..

[Htab]

Total scam. The second picture is Tonys picture from Justrolex. He has the same picture in the fs section.

[paultran37]

Oh really???

[paultran37]

I told the guy I already sent him the money for the watch.
This is what he wrote back.........



I haven't gotten any confirmation from my Bank regarding to the money you told me you sent the money have not gone through.
Like i said in my last mail i need you to scan to me the transfer slip for confirmation. Send me the confirmation to my by email. Call me 512 846 2857 or send me your phone so i will call you.


I wait to hear back from you.


Thanks,
Francisco

[MoBe]

What a dirtbag !

Dirty Sanchez

[mannyv11]

in the past when I posted a WTB ad for a 14060 I was also contacted by this guy. I told him I didnt want to deal with him after he kept sending me pictures of different watches as well. After I informed him that I didnt feel comfortable doing business with him he began calling me a scammer not exactly sure how that works. Thank god he is banned but i'm guessing someone will probably get another PM from sanchez eventually when he creates a new account

[mannyv11]

Actually I just checked I was wrong username was sanfran glad to see him gone

[paultran37]

This is his banking account information:
This will teach him a lesson not to scam anyone again.


> >Here is my Bank Information.
> >
> >Name......Francisco Sanchez
> >Bank Name.........Chase Bank
> >Bank Address..... 4600 E Palm Valley Blvd Round Rock TX 78665
> >Account Number....451266337
> >Routing Number.....111000614
> >Swift code........chasus33
> >
> >Do get back to me with a scan copy of the Transfer Slip for confirmation.
> >I await to hear from you soon to enable me process you Delivery and also get back to you with the Tracking number of your package.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Francisco

[cajunron]

Yes, two of those photo's were stolen from Tony, (aka justrolexes) one of our TRUSTED members. If you look closely at the bottom two photo's, you can see where he photoshopped Tony's name off of the picture. I would LOVE to meet this Francisco Sanchez in PERSON.

[millmax]

I may be wrong but I am sure I have seen these pics on the bay UK, in fact I defo have seen the one with the Rolex cloth

[TSW]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

.... just seen his name in the pic.

He's now banned from here.

[paultran37]

I can't believe how dumb this guy really is!!!

This is what he wrote again today.....



Okay so forward to me the confirmation because i haven't received any confirmation from my Bank.
I have have sent the package to the shipping company and the package will be delivered to you by Monday.

Thanks,
Francisco