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bmac11c · 29 May 2012, 08:52 AM

I need some advice with my next Rolex purchase. I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should purchase the GMT 16710 Pepsi with lugholes or without.

What are advantages of both? Just an FYI, I am looking at K and Z serials respectively.

Thanks All!

Bmac

GregoryZ · 29 May 2012, 09:21 AM

I'm also looking at a GMT Master with lug holes. I really like the lug hole version as it looks more like a vintage case! Good luck!

Speed · 29 May 2012, 09:26 AM

Some feel bracelets / straps are easier to change with Lug Holes. Some also feel Lug Holes are more "secure."

Some like the look of holes on a sports watch.

I think it's more a matter of preference.

What do you think???

ecsub44 · 29 May 2012, 09:27 AM

Holes.

MJK737 · 29 May 2012, 09:30 AM

Holes for sure, it makes the swap to nylon that much easier!

FremStar · 29 May 2012, 09:34 AM

I like the lug holes for the 16710!!! The dimples show character!

93 Turbo · 29 May 2012, 09:36 AM

I have a 16710 with LH's and a Exp II without LH's.

If I changed the bracelets & straps out on a regular basis the lug holed case would make this a little easier.

It's going to boil down to your personal preference. Good luck.

drockadam · 29 May 2012, 09:38 AM

Lug holes are good! Go for them! You don't see lug holes on current Rolex's anymore!

firstOwatch · 29 May 2012, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed

Some feel bracelets / straps are easier to change with Lug Holes. Some also feel Lug Holes are more "secure."

Some like the look of holes on a sports watch.

I think it's more a matter of preference.

What do you think???

Holes

Mickey® · 29 May 2012, 09:38 AM

Vote for HOLES

bmac11c · 29 May 2012, 09:42 AM

@Speed, I really do like both which makes my decision that much harder

I didn't think about the ease of changing out bracelets/straps though. Definitely something to consider as I do like Nylon straps.

roger0770 · 29 May 2012, 09:54 AM

lug holes all the way!

p_mcgee · 29 May 2012, 09:56 AM

I've had a Z with no holes & a K with holes. I'm not one to change the bracelet, ever, so I'll take the newer watch please. I've heard the holes makes it more of a tool watch but frankly its hard to even notice.

Dan Pierce · 29 May 2012, 10:36 AM

My K series has both lug holes and SEL's, the best of both worlds.
dP

boywondergq1 · 29 May 2012, 11:05 AM

I'm torn on this question. I prefer the look of no lug holes, but I do love the simplicity of strap changes with lug holes.

JohnBoy · 29 May 2012, 11:17 AM

Lug holes! YES!!

Hkspwrsche · 29 May 2012, 11:57 AM

No holes

springer · 29 May 2012, 12:29 PM

Lug holes will be found on an older GMT. I guess you'll have to decide how old of watch you want. Personally, I prefer the older, lug hole watches.

RC2 · 29 May 2012, 12:30 PM

Lug holes it's a sports watch

Dr. Robert · 29 May 2012, 12:36 PM

Attention Montres Rolex....please bring back lug holes!
The new Tudor watches now come w/ extra straps...very cool....but no lug holes & IMHO a PITA to take bracelet off.
Please bring back the holes!

Tools · 29 May 2012, 12:42 PM

As Dan mentioned earlier, I too like the lug holes and SEL bracelet..

However, in this case, the condition of the watch should be the deciding factor... Get the very best condition for the price..

Ticking Away · 29 May 2012, 01:51 PM

I say go for the lugholes.

gwalker · 29 May 2012, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

As Dan mentioned earlier, I too like the lug holes and SEL bracelet..

However, in this case, the condition of the watch should be the deciding factor... Get the very best condition for the price..

X2. Would depend on the individual watch. Personally it wouldn't sway me one way or the other. I'd buy the newest/nicest watch I could afford so it would probably not have holes.

lebowski321 · 29 May 2012, 02:03 PM

lug holes and SEL =)

Hairdude1 · 29 May 2012, 02:11 PM

I like it without

azguy · 30 May 2012, 12:40 AM

Lug holes are cool and make a bracelet swap, easy........

Puffy · 30 May 2012, 01:58 AM

lug hole action for me...

rad87gn · 30 May 2012, 03:04 AM

I love my lug hole/SEL GMT!

sierra11b · 30 May 2012, 03:10 AM

If you plan to keep it on the oyster bracelet then I vote no. If you plan to swap bracelets to a jubilee and/or natos then find one with lug holes.

JohanG · 30 May 2012, 03:14 AM

Sorry, but what does SEL stand for? :)

29 May 2012, 08:52 AM	#1
bmac11c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Billy Mac Location: DFW, Tejas Posts: 120	GMT 16710 - To lughole or not to lughole I need some advice with my next Rolex purchase. I'm having the hardest time deciding if I should purchase the GMT 16710 Pepsi with lugholes or without. What are advantages of both? Just an FYI, I am looking at K and Z serials respectively. Thanks All! Bmac

29 May 2012, 09:27 AM	#4
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	Holes. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

29 May 2012, 09:30 AM	#5
MJK737 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AZ Watch: This, Hold my Beer Posts: 369	Holes for sure, it makes the swap to nylon that much easier! __________________ Regards: MJK

29 May 2012, 09:34 AM	#6
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	I like the lug holes for the 16710!!! The dimples show character! __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

29 May 2012, 10:36 AM	#14
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 36,217	My K series has both lug holes and SEL's, the best of both worlds. dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

29 May 2012, 09:21 AM	#2
GregoryZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Greg Location: Ohio Watch: 1680 Posts: 342	I'm also looking at a GMT Master with lug holes. I really like the lug hole version as it looks more like a vintage case! Good luck!

29 May 2012, 09:26 AM	#3
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	Some feel bracelets / straps are easier to change with Lug Holes. Some also feel Lug Holes are more "secure." Some like the look of holes on a sports watch. I think it's more a matter of preference. What do you think???

29 May 2012, 09:36 AM	#7
93 Turbo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Watch: Rolex.Tudor.PAM Posts: 1,554	I have a 16710 with LH's and a Exp II without LH's. If I changed the bracelets & straps out on a regular basis the lug holed case would make this a little easier. It's going to boil down to your personal preference. Good luck.

29 May 2012, 09:38 AM	#8
drockadam "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: Pepsi. Posts: 5,749	Lug holes are good! Go for them! You don't see lug holes on current Rolex's anymore!

29 May 2012, 09:38 AM	#10
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	Vote for HOLES

29 May 2012, 09:42 AM	#11
bmac11c "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Billy Mac Location: DFW, Tejas Posts: 120	@Speed, I really do like both which makes my decision that much harder I didn't think about the ease of changing out bracelets/straps though. Definitely something to consider as I do like Nylon straps.

29 May 2012, 09:54 AM	#12
roger0770 Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: On Earth Watch: A Few Posts: 1,510	lug holes all the way!

29 May 2012, 09:56 AM	#13
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	I've had a Z with no holes & a K with holes. I'm not one to change the bracelet, ever, so I'll take the newer watch please. I've heard the holes makes it more of a tool watch but frankly its hard to even notice.

29 May 2012, 11:05 AM	#15
boywondergq1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 792	I'm torn on this question. I prefer the look of no lug holes, but I do love the simplicity of strap changes with lug holes.

29 May 2012, 11:17 AM	#16
JohnBoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: John Location: Seattle, WA USA Watch: Rolex - a few! Posts: 1,472	Lug holes! YES!!

29 May 2012, 11:57 AM	#17
Hkspwrsche "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Harold Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 834	No holes

29 May 2012, 12:29 PM	#18
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	Lug holes will be found on an older GMT. I guess you'll have to decide how old of watch you want. Personally, I prefer the older, lug hole watches. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

29 May 2012, 12:30 PM	#19
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	Lug holes it's a sports watch __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

29 May 2012, 12:36 PM	#20
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,294	Attention Montres Rolex....please bring back lug holes! The new Tudor watches now come w/ extra straps...very cool....but no lug holes & IMHO a PITA to take bracelet off. Please bring back the holes! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

29 May 2012, 12:42 PM	#21
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	As Dan mentioned earlier, I too like the lug holes and SEL bracelet.. However, in this case, the condition of the watch should be the deciding factor... Get the very best condition for the price.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

29 May 2012, 01:51 PM	#22
Ticking Away "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 272	I say go for the lugholes.

29 May 2012, 02:03 PM	#24
lebowski321 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tyler Location: Hill Country, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 496	lug holes and SEL =)

29 May 2012, 02:11 PM	#25
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	I like it without

30 May 2012, 12:40 AM	#26
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Lug holes are cool and make a bracelet swap, easy........

30 May 2012, 01:58 AM	#27
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	lug hole action for me... __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

30 May 2012, 03:04 AM	#28
rad87gn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chad Location: Des Moines, Iowa Watch: Rolex, PAM, Omega Posts: 1,607	I love my lug hole/SEL GMT! __________________ Rolex P-Series SS GMT II Black, Rolex Y-Series Sea-Dweller, Rolex F-Series TT Blue Sub, Rolex F-Series Sub LV, Rolex D-Series Ladies SS/WG DJ for wife, Panerai K-Series PAM 112, Omega Speedmaster Pro 3570.50, Omega Seamaster 300M Chrono 2594.52

30 May 2012, 03:10 AM	#29
sierra11b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: MkXVIII, 3570.50 Posts: 1,966	If you plan to keep it on the oyster bracelet then I vote no. If you plan to swap bracelets to a jubilee and/or natos then find one with lug holes.

30 May 2012, 03:14 AM	#30
JohanG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Johan Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex Posts: 150	Sorry, but what does SEL stand for? :) __________________ There's no such thing as a free lunch 114060/126710/16030

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