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austinsig · 10 October 2007, 10:22 AM

Hi guys!

I'm new to the forum and interested in purchasing my first rolex. I have been enjoying and learning from your posts the last few weeks. (If only AD's were as knowledgeable and helpful

)

I am looking at the outgoing GMT II right now. I like the new ceramic model, but it just looks so big on my wrist, and I like the fit of the older model for me. I was thinking the pepsi may become an interesting classic model if they don't make a new ceramic version of it.

Anyway, today I found a black and red (coke?) GMT II that had GMT "ll" instead of "II" on the dial. The AD salesperson didn't really know why it was different or what it meant. I read where someone mentioned that there was a variation but didn't find any explanation. Is this a potential collector's item? Does anyone know the details of these models or how many made it out of the factory with the different marking?

Thanks in advance!

Tools · 10 October 2007, 11:09 AM

Austin

Welcome to the forum

TheGMT ll is one of the finest watches Rolex has ever made.

You can't go wrong with this choice. The ll rather than II seems to have shown up in the later Z model dials and is just one of those anomolies in the various fonts used by Rolex throughout the years.

Whether this becomes a desirable and collectable dial in the future is anybodies guess... My personal GMT has the ll.

Robb · 10 October 2007, 11:10 AM

I have had both the ll and the II

austinsig · 10 October 2007, 11:29 AM

Thanks for the info! So I don't guess there is any price premium for one font over the other, correct?

Robb · 10 October 2007, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austinsig

Thanks for the info! So I don't guess there is any price premium for one font over the other, correct?

No.

Tools · 10 October 2007, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austinsig

Thanks for the info! So I don't guess there is any price premium for one font over the other, correct?

Yes..

Downing · 10 October 2007, 12:22 PM

SPACE-DWELLER · 10 October 2007, 06:52 PM

Welcome to TRF!

Honestly, I think the II vs || font is more a potential conversation piece than a potential collector's piece.

The old GMT II might be rising in price since it is no more made, but then again, SO many GMT II's were made that it will take a long time before they become real collector's Rolex watches, and that difference between the II's is IMHO not going to make a big price gap.

jimbo1mcm · 10 October 2007, 07:50 PM

The black and red bezel is so distinctive. A gorgeous watch. Before you buy it, make sure you put both the new GMT and that one on your wrist. The new one has a lot of high tech features that the model you are looking at does not. Either watch will be a treasure and will give you a lifetime of pleasure and service.

momo · 17 October 2007, 09:46 AM

buy the red and blue bezel is a gorgeous watch and the tradition begin it

Transient · 17 October 2007, 10:23 AM

Sometimes choice can be a very hard thing... I would find it hard to choose between the Coke and the Pepsi...

Jedi · 17 October 2007, 01:31 PM

Get either one that's available, then go find a friendly AD who will sell you the spare bezel, failing that, get a mate who's in Europe, say Germany or Holland to go to the RSC with your serial number and purchase one for you.

Then you can flip over as and when you wish.

10 October 2007, 10:22 AM	#1
austinsig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 77	GMT II vs. ll Hi guys! I'm new to the forum and interested in purchasing my first rolex. I have been enjoying and learning from your posts the last few weeks. (If only AD's were as knowledgeable and helpful ) I am looking at the outgoing GMT II right now. I like the new ceramic model, but it just looks so big on my wrist, and I like the fit of the older model for me. I was thinking the pepsi may become an interesting classic model if they don't make a new ceramic version of it. Anyway, today I found a black and red (coke?) GMT II that had GMT "ll" instead of "II" on the dial. The AD salesperson didn't really know why it was different or what it meant. I read where someone mentioned that there was a variation but didn't find any explanation. Is this a potential collector's item? Does anyone know the details of these models or how many made it out of the factory with the different marking? Thanks in advance!

10 October 2007, 11:10 AM	#3
Robb 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Robb Location: USA Watch: BLNR Posts: 4,939	I have had both the ll and the II __________________ 126610LN l 166610LV l 126619LB l 116710BLNR l 126710BLRO l 126720VTNR l 126718GRNR l 116500 white l 116500 black l 116508 john mayer l 116519LN l 116503 white l 126655 l 226627 Ti Master l 116518LN

10 October 2007, 12:22 PM	#7
Downing "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Downing Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: SD ExpII GO Nav ND Posts: 1,640	__________________ One if by land, one if by sea, one if by air and one uh, just to tell time. Rolex Explorer II White Rolex Sea-Dweller Glashütte Original Navigator Panerai 183 G Black Seal

10 October 2007, 06:52 PM	#8
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Welcome to TRF! Honestly, I think the II vs \|\| font is more a potential conversation piece than a potential collector's piece. The old GMT II might be rising in price since it is no more made, but then again, SO many GMT II's were made that it will take a long time before they become real collector's Rolex watches, and that difference between the II's is IMHO not going to make a big price gap. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

10 October 2007, 07:50 PM	#9
jimbo1mcm Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: connecticut, usa Watch: New GMT2C Posts: 320	Buy it!!! The black and red bezel is so distinctive. A gorgeous watch. Before you buy it, make sure you put both the new GMT and that one on your wrist. The new one has a lot of high tech features that the model you are looking at does not. Either watch will be a treasure and will give you a lifetime of pleasure and service.

10 October 2007, 11:09 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Austin Welcome to the forum TheGMT ll is one of the finest watches Rolex has ever made. You can't go wrong with this choice. The ll rather than II seems to have shown up in the later Z model dials and is just one of those anomolies in the various fonts used by Rolex throughout the years. Whether this becomes a desirable and collectable dial in the future is anybodies guess... My personal GMT has the ll.

10 October 2007, 11:29 AM	#4
austinsig "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 77	Thanks for the info! So I don't guess there is any price premium for one font over the other, correct?

17 October 2007, 09:46 AM	#10
momo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: guatemala Posts: 13	buy the red and blue bezel is a gorgeous watch and the tradition begin it

17 October 2007, 10:23 AM	#11
Transient "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: Rolex & Omega Posts: 697	Sometimes choice can be a very hard thing... I would find it hard to choose between the Coke and the Pepsi...

17 October 2007, 01:31 PM	#12
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	Get either one that's available, then go find a friendly AD who will sell you the spare bezel, failing that, get a mate who's in Europe, say Germany or Holland to go to the RSC with your serial number and purchase one for you. Then you can flip over as and when you wish.

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