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unknown · 23 June 2012, 05:47 AM

That new explorer with white dial is really amazing

what a beauty

w4rmk · 23 June 2012, 05:53 AM

Sorry but I disagree, the new design is fugly, the older one has sleek lines and a timeless under-stated beauty... Starting a flame thread :-)

I'm only half-kidding, they are both great watches...

T-Rip · 23 June 2012, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

That new explorer with white dial is really amazing

what a beauty

I would agree, I prefer the black dial myself.. not a fan of the old style...

cajunron · 23 June 2012, 06:02 AM

I think they are BOTH beautiful and classics in their own right. I mean, how could you go wrong with either one?

kcmo · 23 June 2012, 06:04 AM

That's a great photo

Memphis · 23 June 2012, 06:15 AM

How come they didnt make this guy's bezel rotate?

Z-Sub · 23 June 2012, 06:20 AM

beautiful in their own ways and suit different folks with different likings.

Art 1 · 23 June 2012, 06:31 AM

They are nice.

sid8 · 23 June 2012, 06:32 AM

I pick up a new 42mm black face next Friday.
I can't wait! Pictures to follow.

rain_maker · 23 June 2012, 06:33 AM

I like the older design a little better as well. The new hands are a little too fat for me. But that's just my opinion ... i'm splitting hairs on two nice designs.

I've always like the Exp2 in white; like the Exp1 with the black dial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by w4rmk

Sorry but I disagree, the new design is fugly, the older one has sleek lines and a timeless under-stated beauty... Starting a flame thread :-)

I'm only half-kidding, they are both great watches...

MP5 · 23 June 2012, 06:34 AM

The hands on the new one, are comical. The old one does it right

masterserg · 23 June 2012, 06:39 AM

I must say, seeing both in the steel, I like the black better. The dial is gorgeous!

Saxon007 · 23 June 2012, 06:40 AM

I like the orange hand on the new one but much prefer the 40mm size of the old one.

Actsulb · 23 June 2012, 07:19 AM

I like the 16570 better, for my wrist size the 42 is too big. My personal preference for the classic white dial 16570.

HDHNTER · 23 June 2012, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

That new explorer with white dial is really amazing

what a beauty

Agreed, looks great although my wife does not agree with me.

jedinite · 23 June 2012, 07:34 AM

I have both and love them!!

Baco Noir · 23 June 2012, 07:38 AM

I loved the 40mm version until I tried it on. I felt the hands we too small and the hour plots were not as easy for me to see in person as they were in photos. Once I tried on the 42mm Exp II, both were solved and it felt perfectly balanced on my wrist. I will own one some day - hopefully sooner rather than later.

TORRE · 23 June 2012, 07:54 AM

The new one looks like the middle aged version of the teenage old one.Put on a little bit of weight here and there, a little bit thicker around the middle but still an attractive guy.

mrbill2mrbill2 · 23 June 2012, 07:56 AM

When the first pics of the new Explorer II came out I said the hands were comical.

But, now I kind of like the looks.

Ravager135 · 23 June 2012, 07:59 AM

The old Explorer II looks like every other Rolex. I could never understand purchasing it when you could just get the GMT; there was just not enough aestheticially different.

I completely understand people being turned off by the new Explorer II but atleast the watch now stands alone in a different category. People that comment on its size being comical (which it really is not) I have to ask what made it special before? It was a GMT with a white face and bezel that did not move. I would be alarmed if Rolex started making all it's watches now in 42mm with super maxi dials and hands but until that happens I think the best word to describe the new Explorer II is unique.

A lot of vitriol comes from people who own one or the other and feel a need to defend their particular watch. I am not necessarily a fan of the new Submariner and like the dimensions of my older 16610 better but I can easily recognize the merits of the glide lock clasp, ceramic bezel, etc. Hell I like the old Explorer II but for me it just wasn't different enough from other watches Rolex had on the market.

christian_az · 23 June 2012, 08:16 AM

I agree, especially since I just got one!

DCgator · 23 June 2012, 08:24 AM

I like the old version but w/ the 3186 movt. I like the new one as is. Prefer the polar on both.

springbar · 23 June 2012, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MP5

The hands on the new one, are comical. The old one does it right

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

When the first pics of the new Explorer II came out I said the hands were comical.

But, now I kind of like the looks.

I find the maxi-minute-hand a welcome improvement. The skinny line of lume on the previous minute hand would all but vanish in low light after a while, long before the markers and other hands were hard to see.

I think the old minute hand was comically under-lumed for what's supposed to be a "tool watch."

Ravager135 · 23 June 2012, 08:40 AM

Yeah I mean I think the best thing about the new Explorer II is that it is the quintessential sports watch on the Rolex market. If you are looking for an all round sports watch the Explorer II 42mm really has it all in terms of size, ease of reading, GMT function, and depth testing.

Now I have been clearly on the record in other threads stating my belief that the GMTIIC is the best all round Rolex out there today but that takes into account its ability to be dressed up or down. I mean really who am I kidding, any Rolex looks good with a suit. But as far as sport models go, the the Explorer II 42mm exemplifies that for me.

Flyfisher · 23 June 2012, 09:00 AM

When I saw both the old and new in the AD case this week (both polar), the difference was stunning and immediately apparent. Love the new, not the old.

azguy · 23 June 2012, 09:08 AM

Seeing the pictures in this thread I'm 50/50, both are perfect in their own way

Joey_V · 23 June 2012, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravager135

The old Explorer II looks like every other Rolex. I could never understand purchasing it when you could just get the GMT; there was just not enough aestheticially different.

I completely understand people being turned off by the new Explorer II but atleast the watch now stands alone in a different category. People that comment on its size being comical (which it really is not) I have to ask what made it special before? It was a GMT with a white face and bezel that did not move. I would be alarmed if Rolex started making all it's watches now in 42mm with super maxi dials and hands but until that happens I think the best word to describe the new Explorer II is unique.

A lot of vitriol comes from people who own one or the other and feel a need to defend their particular watch. I am not necessarily a fan of the new Submariner and like the dimensions of my older 16610 better but I can easily recognize the merits of the glide lock clasp, ceramic bezel, etc. Hell I like the old Explorer II but for me it just wasn't different enough from other watches Rolex had on the market.

Agreed... the old one looked just plain and boring. It didn't stand out. I prefer the 42mm better.

drjfc62 · 23 June 2012, 09:37 AM

I prefer the bigger, bolder look of the 42mm version, though both are beauties.

joe100 · 23 June 2012, 09:41 AM

I prefer the white dial on the 16570 but I prefer the black on the 216570. Any explorer 2 is great. The used market for the 16570 is pretty nice and I've been considering a purchase. Can't beat the prices lately

Tri-Tip · 23 June 2012, 09:41 AM

I don't usually care for white faced watches, but I LOVE this one.

23 June 2012, 05:47 AM	#1
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,872	I was never a fan of the Explorer II..... untill I saw this That new explorer with white dial is really amazing what a beauty __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

23 June 2012, 06:02 AM	#4
cajunron 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,872	I think they are BOTH beautiful and classics in their own right. I mean, how could you go wrong with either one? __________________

23 June 2012, 06:20 AM	#7
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	beautiful in their own ways and suit different folks with different likings. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

23 June 2012, 06:39 AM	#12
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,437	I must say, seeing both in the steel, I like the black better. The dial is gorgeous! __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

23 June 2012, 06:40 AM	#13
Saxon007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,002	I like the orange hand on the new one but much prefer the 40mm size of the old one. __________________ Licensed to kill time.

23 June 2012, 05:53 AM	#2
w4rmk Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Richard Kloc Location: New York Watch: Deepsea D-Blue Posts: 250	Sorry but I disagree, the new design is fugly, the older one has sleek lines and a timeless under-stated beauty... Starting a flame thread :-) I'm only half-kidding, they are both great watches...

23 June 2012, 06:04 AM	#5
kcmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Karis Location: USA Posts: 19,377	That's a great photo

23 June 2012, 06:15 AM	#6
Memphis Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Connecticut Watch: 116610LN Posts: 448	How come they didnt make this guy's bezel rotate?

23 June 2012, 06:31 AM	#8
Art 1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Florida, Canada Watch: Rol/Seik/Tud/Omega Posts: 30,244	They are nice.

23 June 2012, 06:32 AM	#9
sid8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: uk Watch: DJ 2 & Explorer 2 Posts: 230	I pick up a new 42mm black face next Friday. I can't wait! Pictures to follow.

23 June 2012, 06:34 AM	#11
MP5 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATX Posts: 2,886	The hands on the new one, are comical. The old one does it right

23 June 2012, 07:19 AM	#14
Actsulb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Ali Location: California Watch: GMT II (Coke) Posts: 1,747	I like the 16570 better, for my wrist size the 42 is too big. My personal preference for the classic white dial 16570. __________________ A Crown for Every Achievement

23 June 2012, 07:34 AM	#16
jedinite "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: TC Location: GMT -8 Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 582	I have both and love them!! __________________ Tudor Submariner 76100/Rolex TT Submariner Blue X/Victorinox AirBoss Mach 6/Longines Grande Vitesse/Rolex SeaDweller DeepSea V/ GShock GW-3000B/ Tudor Prince Date 74034/ Rolex ExII 42 WD/ Rolex Submariner 116610 LV/ Tudor Pelagos Blue

23 June 2012, 07:38 AM	#17
Baco Noir "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: Colorado Watch: this ya'll Posts: 4,970	I loved the 40mm version until I tried it on. I felt the hands we too small and the hour plots were not as easy for me to see in person as they were in photos. Once I tried on the 42mm Exp II, both were solved and it felt perfectly balanced on my wrist. I will own one some day - hopefully sooner rather than later.

23 June 2012, 07:54 AM	#18
TORRE "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Stephen Location: STOCKPORT Watch: White Explorer II Posts: 50	The new one looks like the middle aged version of the teenage old one.Put on a little bit of weight here and there, a little bit thicker around the middle but still an attractive guy.

23 June 2012, 07:56 AM	#19
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	When the first pics of the new Explorer II came out I said the hands were comical. But, now I kind of like the looks. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

23 June 2012, 07:59 AM	#20
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	The old Explorer II looks like every other Rolex. I could never understand purchasing it when you could just get the GMT; there was just not enough aestheticially different. I completely understand people being turned off by the new Explorer II but atleast the watch now stands alone in a different category. People that comment on its size being comical (which it really is not) I have to ask what made it special before? It was a GMT with a white face and bezel that did not move. I would be alarmed if Rolex started making all it's watches now in 42mm with super maxi dials and hands but until that happens I think the best word to describe the new Explorer II is unique. A lot of vitriol comes from people who own one or the other and feel a need to defend their particular watch. I am not necessarily a fan of the new Submariner and like the dimensions of my older 16610 better but I can easily recognize the merits of the glide lock clasp, ceramic bezel, etc. Hell I like the old Explorer II but for me it just wasn't different enough from other watches Rolex had on the market.

23 June 2012, 08:16 AM	#21
christian_az "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2	I agree, especially since I just got one!

23 June 2012, 08:24 AM	#22
DCgator "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PNW Watch: DS,BLNR,SubLV,DJ2 Posts: 8,123	I like the old version but w/ the 3186 movt. I like the new one as is. Prefer the polar on both.

23 June 2012, 08:40 AM	#24
Ravager135 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,224	Yeah I mean I think the best thing about the new Explorer II is that it is the quintessential sports watch on the Rolex market. If you are looking for an all round sports watch the Explorer II 42mm really has it all in terms of size, ease of reading, GMT function, and depth testing. Now I have been clearly on the record in other threads stating my belief that the GMTIIC is the best all round Rolex out there today but that takes into account its ability to be dressed up or down. I mean really who am I kidding, any Rolex looks good with a suit. But as far as sport models go, the the Explorer II 42mm exemplifies that for me.

23 June 2012, 09:00 AM	#25
Flyfisher "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mid Atlantic Posts: 237	When I saw both the old and new in the AD case this week (both polar), the difference was stunning and immediately apparent. Love the new, not the old.

23 June 2012, 09:08 AM	#26
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	Seeing the pictures in this thread I'm 50/50, both are perfect in their own way

23 June 2012, 09:37 AM	#28
drjfc62 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Watch: DSSD, TT sub Posts: 532	I prefer the bigger, bolder look of the 42mm version, though both are beauties.

23 June 2012, 09:41 AM	#29
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	I prefer the white dial on the 16570 but I prefer the black on the 216570. Any explorer 2 is great. The used market for the 16570 is pretty nice and I've been considering a purchase. Can't beat the prices lately __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

23 June 2012, 09:41 AM	#30
Tri-Tip "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CA, USA Watch: Out!!! Posts: 6,474	I don't usually care for white faced watches, but I LOVE this one.

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