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nitros · 8 August 2012, 06:36 AM

i read the the white 42mm X II is the most want rolex, ATM, because most of the collectors start to realised the potential.

is that true?

Rocco22 · 8 August 2012, 06:37 AM

No way will it become the new sub.no matter how many want the explorer2 a sub man is exactly that a sub man.

subtona · 8 August 2012, 06:39 AM

sure why not

swiss ghost · 8 August 2012, 06:39 AM

the sub sooner than later will become 42mm. sorry purists.

horseco · 8 August 2012, 06:39 AM

Nothing will replace the heritage of the Sub...

AH0RSEY · 8 August 2012, 06:41 AM

impossible - try diving with an Exp42 and you'll understand why... no uni-directional bezel. So for those who want to dive...its a no brainer.

but - if someone wants to pay me now for the pleasure of my Exp42 but of course pay higher than premium fee's, well I'd be happy with that.

Mickey® · 8 August 2012, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nitros

i read the the white 42mm X II is the most want rolex, ATM, because most of the collectors start to realised the potential.

is that true?

No it became the new Explorer....no the new Sub

Kyu · 8 August 2012, 06:43 AM

I hope not, I love the subs, gmt's
not much of a fan of explorer

AH0RSEY · 8 August 2012, 06:43 AM

also - check out the gmt v sub v exp poll - that kinda says it all

McLovin · 8 August 2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nitros

i read the the white 42mm X II is the most want rolex, ATM, because most of the collectors start to realised the potential.

is that true?

Those collectors each already have at least one Sub.

Where did you read this anyway?

U5512 · 8 August 2012, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitros

i read the the white 42mm X II is the most want rolex, ATM, because most of the collectors start to realised the potential.

is that true?

What potential? You can buy it at anytime of the day when the sun is out (or not!).

nitros · 8 August 2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by McLovin

Those collectors each already have at least one Sub.

Where did you read this anyway?

here you go:
http://www.theprodigalguide.com/2010...y-explorer-ii/

Blue Owl · 8 August 2012, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitros

i read the the white 42mm X II is the most want rolex, ATM, because most of the collectors start to realised the potential.

is that true?

TattooedGQ · 8 August 2012, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by swiss ghost

the sub sooner than later will become 42mm. sorry purists.

I think that's a sad, but ultimately true statement.

nitros · 8 August 2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TattooedGQ

I think that's a sad, but ultimately true statement.

Really guys, Is rolex planing to make a 42 Sub?

TattooedGQ · 8 August 2012, 07:09 AM

Noone knows but them...however, it's not a far stretch of the imagination.

Chipmunk · 8 August 2012, 07:14 AM

I'll file a complaint if they did.

McLovin · 8 August 2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nitros

here you go:
http://www.theprodigalguide.com/2010...y-explorer-ii/

Thanks Nitros.

I like these reviewers -- they have video reviews up on YouTube and do a good job. But here they're not talking about the 42'' Expl.2. This shows praise for the previous model, and the comment I saw about customer demand in the comments was about a vintage Expl.2.

Here is the review of the 42'' Expl.2, which is mixed to say the least:

http://www.theprodigalguide.com/2011...x-explorer-ii/

nitros · 8 August 2012, 07:18 AM

so if i will got for the new sub, the mini DSSD, i still will be ok then?

McLovin · 8 August 2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nitros

Really guys, Is rolex planing to make a 42 Sub?

Doubt it. With the Tudors and DSSD out there, I think they have larger sized dive watches covered. If Sub sales were down, maybe, but I think they are still very very popular.

McLovin · 8 August 2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nitros

so if i will got for the new sub, the mini DSSD, i still will be ok then?

Sure -- I think the SubC rocks! Other people love the DSSD, and others the 14060. Try them all and see what sings to you!

10:10:31 28 · 8 August 2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TattooedGQ

I think that's a sad, but ultimately true statement.

They could just rename the DSSD the Submariner Date II.

nitros · 8 August 2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by McLovin

Sure -- I think the SubC rocks! Other people love the DSSD, and others the 14060. Try them all and see what sings to you!

Sorry my ignorance but the "c" after the sub, SUBC
means ceramic?

Robbenisland · 8 August 2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AH0RSEY

impossible - try diving with an Exp42 and you'll understand why... no uni-directional bezel. So for those who want to dive...its a no brainer.

but - if someone wants to pay me now for the pleasure of my Exp42 but of course pay higher than premium fee's, well I'd be happy with that.

Who seriously goes diving with a Rolex. I dive and I have a number of nice timepieces, but would never consider taking them to dive. Rather take my Suunto Stinger watch/computer as it gives me better and safer information.

McLovin · 8 August 2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nitros

Sorry my ignorance but the "c" after the sub, SUBC
means ceramic?

Yes. My TT SubC quickly became my daily watch a few months ago.

Pep04 · 8 August 2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AH0RSEY

impossible - try diving with an Exp42 and you'll understand why... no uni-directional bezel. So for those who want to dive...its a no brainer.

but - if someone wants to pay me now for the pleasure of my Exp42 but of course pay higher than premium fee's, well I'd be happy with that.

I seriously doubt that the average Rolex owner actually buys the watch for the intention (marketing wise).

How many Milgauss owners bought one because they work around magnets. Or how many DSSD really need a watch with that kind of ability.

Fact is that people buy what they like and not the intention of the watch (for the most part).

And to add to the OP, I have a black dial one and coupled with my 320, it has really made me not want anything in the 40mm class. I gave my GMTIIc to my old man (on an indefinite loan). Six months after, I swapped with him for the day and I could not deal with it. I found the GMTIIc WAAAAAYYYYY too small.

I am not sure how some of you can manage wearing a 40mm one day and a 44mm the next. When I had the GMT and the 320, it felt weird going back and forth but the 320 is only used to go to weekend functions or nice dinners so it was easier to adjust back to the 40mm.

So, after my rant, I do believe that larger watches are and will become the future. Purist will alway be but new collectors are getting into the hobby everyday and there are plenty of larger watches on the market today than 10 years ago so there will be a large number of new collectors that will be collecting larger watches.

Just my 2¢

AJMarcus · 8 August 2012, 07:51 AM

No WAY! The Sub will always be in class all by itself!

Kyu · 8 August 2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pep04

I seriously doubt that the average Rolex owner actually buys the watch for the intention (marketing wise).

How many Milgauss owners bought one because they work around magnets. Or how many DSSD really need a watch with that kind of ability.

Fact is that people buy what they like and not the intention of the watch (for the most part).

And to add to the OP, I have a black dial one and coupled with my 320, it has really made me not want anything in the 40mm class. I gave my GMTIIc to my old man (on an indefinite loan). Six months after, I swapped with him for the day and I could not deal with it. I found the GMTIIc WAAAAAYYYYY too small.

I am not sure how some of you can manage wearing a 40mm one day and a 44mm the next. When I had the GMT and the 320, it felt weird going back and forth but the 320 is only used to go to weekend functions or nice dinners so it was easier to adjust back to the 40mm.

So, after my rant, I do believe that larger watches are and will become the future. Purist will alway be but new collectors are getting into the hobby everyday and there are plenty of larger watches on the market today than 10 years ago so there will be a large number of new collectors that will be collecting larger watches.

Just my 2¢

I agree !
I'm one of the new collectors as I'm still young,
So far my Rolex's are the smallest, Everything else such as Audemars , Hublot (44M) and even my PP is larger than one of my rolex (36m) but atleast my GMT II and Daytona are still in a decent size range, Even the V. Constatine is larger or just an optical illusion ? Everything else makes my rolex's look smaller

karmatp · 8 August 2012, 08:28 AM

The new Explorer II's are the best modern day Rolex watches on the market, so I can see the high demand.

No block case, no gloss dial and gloss ceramic insert, no silly proportions between the case and braclet, the Explorer II is pretty much perfect.

nauticajoe · 8 August 2012, 08:39 AM

I can't see that happening. IMO, the Sub will always be THE watch for Rolex aside from the DJ's.

8 August 2012, 06:36 AM	#1
nitros "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: UK Posts: 225	will the x II become the new Sub? i read the the white 42mm X II is the most want rolex, ATM, because most of the collectors start to realised the potential. is that true?

8 August 2012, 06:39 AM	#3
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,601	sure why not Attached Images __________________

8 August 2012, 06:41 AM	#6
AH0RSEY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Harrogate Watch: OUT !!!! Posts: 829	impossible - try diving with an Exp42 and you'll understand why... no uni-directional bezel. So for those who want to dive...its a no brainer. but - if someone wants to pay me now for the pleasure of my Exp42 but of course pay higher than premium fee's, well I'd be happy with that. __________________ Current rotation; AP15500ST grey, White Daytona 116500, WG Black/Red Daytona 116509, White and Black EXP 42, GMT2C.... too many previous it makes my head hurt thinking about them.

8 August 2012, 06:43 AM	#9
AH0RSEY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Harrogate Watch: OUT !!!! Posts: 829	also - check out the gmt v sub v exp poll - that kinda says it all __________________ Current rotation; AP15500ST grey, White Daytona 116500, WG Black/Red Daytona 116509, White and Black EXP 42, GMT2C.... too many previous it makes my head hurt thinking about them.

8 August 2012, 07:09 AM	#16
TattooedGQ "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Justin Location: NY, USA Watch: yo self! Posts: 2,686	Noone knows but them...however, it's not a far stretch of the imagination. __________________ That boy's got the Devil in him. Rolex: I think I'm up to 9?? Omega: Got a few of those too. Breitling: And some of these.

8 August 2012, 06:37 AM	#2
Rocco22 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mass/Vegas/disney Watch: Hulk,114060,14060 Posts: 929	No way will it become the new sub.no matter how many want the explorer2 a sub man is exactly that a sub man.

8 August 2012, 06:39 AM	#4
swiss ghost Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 540	the sub sooner than later will become 42mm. sorry purists.

8 August 2012, 06:39 AM	#5
horseco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Anthony Location: North Jersey Watch: Daytona 116528 Posts: 3,426	Nothing will replace the heritage of the Sub...

8 August 2012, 06:43 AM	#8
Kyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: yes.. it's Kyu Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rolex 116759SANR Posts: 1,499	I hope not, I love the subs, gmt's not much of a fan of explorer

8 August 2012, 07:14 AM	#17
Chipmunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Alvin Location: So Cal Watch: ROLEXES Posts: 5,390	I'll file a complaint if they did. __________________ "A thing of beauty is a joy forever"............John Keats

8 August 2012, 07:18 AM	#19
nitros "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: UK Posts: 225	so if i will got for the new sub, the mini DSSD, i still will be ok then?

8 August 2012, 07:51 AM	#27
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,238	No WAY! The Sub will always be in class all by itself!

8 August 2012, 08:28 AM	#29
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	The new Explorer II's are the best modern day Rolex watches on the market, so I can see the high demand. No block case, no gloss dial and gloss ceramic insert, no silly proportions between the case and braclet, the Explorer II is pretty much perfect. __________________ My grails:

8 August 2012, 08:39 AM	#30
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	I can't see that happening. IMO, the Sub will always be THE watch for Rolex aside from the DJ's.

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