Should I trade my 16610 for a 14060M?

[JohnFM]

I've been hanging out on the forums now for over a year and have managed to acquire a pre-owned 16610 Sub and 16600 Sea Dweller. I love 'em both but have my eyes on the 14060(M) due to its simple, clean dial and lug holes.

While the 16610 is clearly one of the classic Rolexes, it seems to get less love and attention here on TRF, maybe because it's so popular and there are so many of them. I think it's a great watch, by the way, just not that wild about the cyclops. On the other hand, it's a great size, wears flat and comfortably, and has a pretty nice bracelet.

The 14060M bracelet is a step below in my opinion, since the dive extension flops out every time I take it off. Still, I love the clean dial and lug holes.

I know one has a date and one doesn't. But apart from the date difference (!), which do you prefer and which will hold its value better in 10 years -- the 16610 or 14060M?

Thanks.
John

[sdwtchlvr]

I've always thought the 14060 wears more like the 16600 in that it has a touch smaller dial diameter vs. the 16610. But it's really what you're into. As far as value is concerned, who knows. Looking at history though, the sub with the date function has always commanded a higher value than it's non date counterpart from the same year. At least as far as I can tell.

[subtona]

i think the 16610 has more mass appeal.

i prefer the 14060m

[Mike1066]

I'd stick with the 16610 b/c of the date. I sold my 14060M to get funds for my 16600 b/c I just could not live without a date function.

In terms of value, who knows. But, as Jermaine noted, the 1680s seem, on the whole, to command more than the 5513s, if that is any guide.

In the end, go with the watch you want. The 14060M is simple and great. If you want it, go for it. You can always trade it back.

V/R

Mike

[Sam Philip]

I would not trade a 16610 for a 14060(M)

[mjclark32]

I wouldn't, but I like my 16610 and need a date. Maybe remove the cyclops?

[superdog]

I love no date watches. But I don't think you should

[alanc]

Originally Posted by JohnFM

I've been hanging out on the forums now for over a year and have managed to acquire a pre-owned 16610 Sub and 16600 Sea Dweller. I love 'em both but have my eyes on the 14060(M) due to its simple, clean dial and lug holes.

While the 16610 is clearly one of the classic Rolexes, it seems to get less love and attention here on TRF, maybe because it's so popular and there are so many of them. I think it's a great watch, by the way, just not that wild about the cyclops. On the other hand, it's a great size, wears flat and comfortably, and has a pretty nice bracelet.

The 14060M bracelet is a step below in my opinion, since the dive extension flops out every time I take it off. Still, I love the clean dial and lug holes.

I know one has a date and one doesn't. But apart from the date difference (!), which do you prefer and which will hold its value better in 10 years -- the 16610 or 14060M?

Thanks.
John

Before you make a decision, you need to figure out exactly why you want the 14060M. From your post, it first appears you want one because you say you "have [your] eyes on the 14060(M) due to its simple, clean dial and lug holes." Sounds like you like it, which is the only good reason to get it, IMHO.

But, then you go on to point out that the 16610 "get[s] less love and attention here on TRF," apparently as an additional reason to get the 14060M. I wouldn't factor that into the decision at all - who cares what does and doesn't get love here? What matters is what you like, unless the reason you point this out is because you are concerned over future value, which you may be, based on the fact you end with the question as to which will hold its value better in 10 years, in which case, what gets more love here is relevant.

So, if you want to swap because you like the 14060(M) and you don't care about value - get it, because you apparently want it.

If, on the other hand you are basing the decision on what gets love here and what will be worth more in the future - keep what you have, because it sounds like the 16610 wins that showdown.

One other thing - unless you really don't care about value, I wouldn't remove the cyclops on your 16610, because that sort of thing will only lower the value, unless there is a way to remove it and reattach it without damage. There may be; I'm just not aware of it.

[NYC6]

If you dont like the bubble, make the trade.
An easy adjustment would likely fix the floppy divers extension.
No crystal ball here, just a guess, the 14060 might be worth more down the road due to its not being produced anymore and less in circulation(I think).

[nauticajoe]

I wouldn't. Of the two, I prefer a date.


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Originally Posted by alanc

Before you make a decision, you need to figure out exactly why you want the 14060M. From your post, it first appears you want one because you say you "have [your] eyes on the 14060(M) due to its simple, clean dial and lug holes." Sounds like you like it, which is the only good reason to get it, IMHO.

But, then you go on to point out that the 16610 "get[s] less love and attention here on TRF," apparently as an additional reason to get the 14060M. I wouldn't factor that into the decision at all - who cares what does and doesn't get love here? What matters is what you like, unless the reason you point this out is because you are concerned over future value, which you may be, based on the fact you end with the question as to which will hold its value better in 10 years, in which case, what gets more love here is relevant.

So, if you want to swap because you like the 14060(M) and you don't care about value - get it, because you apparently want it.

If, on the other hand you are basing the decision on what gets love here and what will be worth more in the future - keep what you have, because it sounds like the 16610 wins that showdown.

One other thing - unless you really don't care about value, I wouldn't remove the cyclops on your 16610, because that sort of thing will only lower the value, unless there is a way to remove it and reattach it without damage. There may be; I'm just not aware of it.

Well said. Agree wholeheartedly!

[TSW]

Save up and add a the nodate

[fliphandywork]

I would.

[nick c]

DO IT

[Rocco22]

Yes do it,the 14060 is awesome

[mrbill2mrbill2]

I wouldn't. But, that's me.

Do what makes you smile. That's all that matters.

[bigwatchman]

In a heartbeat..... but I am biased...

[jolimont]

can't go wrong with a classic symmetrical sub design with lug holes

[Art 1]

Value wise I don't think it matters.

[ecsub44]

Considering value in 10 years is a pointless endeavor.

Go for the 14060M! MUCH better watch!

[alanc]

Damn. After following this thread, I've decided that I must have a 14060M, in addition to the TT 16613 bluesy and the Pepsi 16710 I must have.

And just like that, my two grails become three.

[Jannal]

I sold / replaced my Subs (116610LN, 16610, 16610LV) because I couldn't get use to the cyclops. I'd bought them 2nd hand and all appreciated in value when Rolex announced production will be discontinued. You can't go wrong with either watches, it's down to personal taste.

[Mickey®]

I have a 14060M and love it. It is the most comfortable Sub I've owned.
I would not get rid of my 16610(LV) for a 14060 though...

You said..."since the dive extension flops out every time I take it off"...My dive extension has NEVER "flopped out"...FYI.

[sea-dweller]

I would not!

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Jannal

I sold / replaced my Subs (116610LN, 16610, 16610LV) because I couldn't get use to the cyclops. I'd bought them 2nd hand and all appreciated in value when Rolex announced production will be discontinued. You can't go wrong with either watches, it's down to personal taste.

Awesome!

[polarinda]

Of the 3, I think the SD is an overall better watch. Robust, less flare, date sans cyclop, better bracelet, compact dial making the markers well balanced in size.
The ND is the most comfortable but the reflection from the crystal under sunlight is something to consider.

jmho. Buy what you love.

[honeybear]

You can change the tension on the diver extension by slightly bending or straightening the thin flat metal piece (on the left in the photo below), which might make the diver extension more secure.

[HongNinja]

Originally Posted by Jannal

I sold / replaced my Subs (116610LN, 16610, 16610LV) because I couldn't get use to the cyclops. I'd bought them 2nd hand and all appreciated in value when Rolex announced production will be discontinued. You can't go wrong with either watches, it's down to personal taste.

LOVE this!

[Lew Archer]

I was in the same predicament.

In 2009, I decided to buy a Submariner, which had long been my favorite watch.

I was torn between the 16610 and the 14060M. I could make a strong argument for either and both had equal appeal.

I opted for the 16610. I figured the date feature would enhance re-sale value and was handy...and also the dealer only had the 16610 in stock and I was ready to buy...

Done!

But not done...that damn 14060M would catch my eye if I happened by an AD.

I loved the 16610, and with it being discontinued, would not flip it to get the 14060M.

Then, earlier this year, I stopped into an AD and noticed they had a 14060M. Though still in the Rolex line, the rumor was that it would soon be discontinued.

To hell with it...I bought that 14060M.

Thank God for this forum, where such madness is fully appreciated!

Anyway, I love 'me both. My favorite is whichever one is on my wrist.

Good luck with your predicament.

Sea dweller, huh? I always liked that one, the perfect compromise between the Sub and Sub Date, and water resistant to a greater depth and...no, stop, never mind, don't need it, don't need it, don't need it.

Watches.

They get you...

[George Ab]

I tried to love the 14060M as it wears very comfortably as it is so thin, and the clean look. Just knowing the end links are hollow bothered me. Also not a fan of the dive extension on the 14060M. It took me a long time before I got used to the cyclops. You have the clean look of the SD already. A GMT II would give you more diversity. So a GMT II and the SD would just make more sense vice two dive watches.