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SubKing · 13 October 2012, 11:32 PM

there has been some talk around the forum that the all new AP ROO 44mm is going to one day replace the 42mm ROO.

i wanted to get everyone's take on this?

I personally think the 42mm is a classic and around to stay. AP needs different choices for different clients. If they eliminate the 42mm, then what about those people who prefer smaller sized watches?

But then again it still kind of confuses me because we are only talking about 2mm larger here which is not much..

Because the new ceramic rolex submariner is slightly larger than the older counter part.. rolex wanted to beef up the sub a bit so they got rid of the older size.

on the other side, rolex still kept the daydate once they launched the daydate II..

Im just comparing to other watch houses and trying to see the trend if there is one? Maybe Rolex isn't a good company to compare AP to as rolex watches have never been as large as AP Roo's to begin with. AP Roos have always been known to be larger watches

I guess if I compare it rolex then it would make sense that AP is beefing up the ROO a bit and slowly removing the 42mm ROO.

BUT at the same time, I feel the reason they gave the 44mm ROO stick markers and not that classic arabic dial, is because they do plan on keeping the 42mm around??

IMO if they put the arabic dial in the 44mm ROO, it would be the perfect AP.

I would like to hear everyones thoughts on this and what they think AP may or may not do in the near future?

s14roller · 14 October 2012, 12:13 AM

Don't think they will remove 42MM. It's a size most can wear whereabouts a 44 may not be. If Panerai started launching more watches in 47MM, I would doubt they would consider discontinuing production on 44s.

kilyung · 14 October 2012, 12:58 AM

Maybe AP should have three sports lines...

Royal Oak - <41mm
Royal Oak Offshore - 42mm
Royal Oak Offshore Oversized - 44mm+

Watchonisto · 14 October 2012, 01:02 AM

No

alexlt730512 · 14 October 2012, 01:20 AM

i don't think it'll happen.

TSW · 14 October 2012, 01:40 AM

Not a chance.

mb23 · 14 October 2012, 04:27 AM

There will be some changes coming for sure, the 42 mm ROO line will be stream lined. I would say that about 60-70% of the current non-LE ROO line will be retired.

Dickson Lim · 14 October 2012, 05:01 AM

There are clearly markets for both size, not a chance IMO.

HL65 · 14 October 2012, 05:10 AM

Nope.

chazha · 14 October 2012, 05:23 AM

I strongly believe it will be eliminated... just see what happened with 39mm RO 15300... 'To break the rules, you must first master them' :D

s14roller · 14 October 2012, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb23

There will be some changes coming for sure, the 42 mm ROO line will be stream lined. I would say that about 60-70% of the current non-LE ROO line will be retired.

I'd guess the RCs will end up discontinued as they look pretty closeto the 44 line. Safari, Panda, BB prob not.

WhatTheDeuce · 14 October 2012, 05:56 AM

I hope not...

Dickson Lim · 14 October 2012, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chazha

I strongly believe it will be eliminated... just see what happened with 39mm RO 15300... 'To break the rules, you must first master them' :D

Me myself think that it is not a good move. Maybe they are trying to make the modern jumbo even more special.

Silvio Mosiello · 14 October 2012, 07:34 AM

No way

mb23 · 14 October 2012, 07:41 AM

The RC's will be staying in the line and I think the 42mm size is here to stay just not as many as currently produced, some will be discontinued for sure.

gwalker · 14 October 2012, 10:09 AM

Nope.

George Ab · 14 October 2012, 12:20 PM

42mm is pretty big as it is. About as big as I like to go. AP would lose too much market share going exclusively to 44mm. Just not going to happen.

Now what AP needs to do is modify there bracelets so folks with smaller then 7" wrists can wear. That would open the market significantly to their bracelet models. Rolex has done with by gong from four permanent links to three.

kriskros · 14 October 2012, 04:39 PM

O just heard from an AP guy that they are planning to have the same petite tapisserie of ro to roo though not sure if i understand it right.

For me 42mm roo will still be around as w the 44mm roo. Imho

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TSW · 14 October 2012, 04:56 PM

A lot will happen during the next year, Less points of sales = more watches to each AD.

But as Mike already said i'm sure some of the 42mm models will be discontinued in a near future.

mb23 · 14 October 2012, 06:08 PM

To be honest, I think we have a bit to many ROO's at the moment. A little house cleaning will help :-)

alexlt730512 · 15 October 2012, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSW

A lot will happen during the next year, Less points of sales = more watches to each AD.

But as Mike already said i'm sure some of the 42mm models will be discontinued in a near future.

i was told by one of the ADs that AP decided to pull the acct from 6 local dealer here in the US this year

TSW · 15 October 2012, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexlt730512

i was told by one of the ADs that AP decided to pull the acct from 6 local dealer here in the US this year

At this point there is 560 points of sales and that will be slimmed down to about 300 next year.

iLLGT2 · 15 October 2012, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s14roller

Don't think they will remove 42MM. It's a size most can wear whereabouts a 44 may not be. If Panerai started launching more watches in 47MM, I would doubt they would consider discontinuing production on 44s.

AGREED!

I tend to Favor the 42mm, which is apparent in my latest purchase.. I can pull off the 44mm fine, as I do with PAM 47mm's, however they simply just aren't comfy ENOUGH, for daily wears.... Well 372 is, however the new ROO with the big pushers and crown guard just wasn't as... love it however

Bulliondesk · 15 October 2012, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSW

A lot will happen during the next year, Less points of sales = more watches to each AD.

Less points of sale..? There are barely any as is here in the US.

mb23 · 15 October 2012, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexlt730512

i was told by one of the ADs that AP decided to pull the acct from 6 local dealer here in the US this year

Actually, more are due to be pulled and about 20 more were pulled outside of the US.

As TWS said they will be pulling about 200 in total!

Porsche-ah · 15 October 2012, 04:54 AM

I love the 42mm.... It wears just as large as my 44mm Hublot.

I believe and sincerely hope they are here to stay.

TSW · 15 October 2012, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb23

Actually, more are due to be pulled and about 20 more were pulled outside of the US.

As TWS said they will be pulling about 200 in total!

As it looks Mr. Bennahmias will do a great job as AP's new CEO.

Changes will be made and a lot to the better i think

mb23 · 15 October 2012, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSW

As it looks Mr. Bennahmias will do a great job as AP's new CEO.

Changes will be made and a lot to the better i think

Ditto!

SubKing · 15 October 2012, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSW

As it looks Mr. Bennahmias will do a great job as AP's new CEO.

Changes will be made and a lot to the better i think

+1
it's an exclusive brand that needs to stay that way.. only one AD here in michigan. hope they dont pull that one!

jenniferjanef · 15 October 2012, 12:03 PM

Despite I have small wrist, I personally find the 44 wears a lot better than the 42, don't know why but it does. Rolex kept the DD 36mm along with DDII 41mm cos 5mm differences us a big difference and nowadays lots of woman likes to wear oversize watches hence 36mm looks just nice.. I too hope AP will keep the 42mm. You cannot have too many choices to choose from. .. Jen.

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13 October 2012, 11:32 PM	#1
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	Do you think the 44mm ROO will Replace the 42mm ROO and why? there has been some talk around the forum that the all new AP ROO 44mm is going to one day replace the 42mm ROO. i wanted to get everyone's take on this? I personally think the 42mm is a classic and around to stay. AP needs different choices for different clients. If they eliminate the 42mm, then what about those people who prefer smaller sized watches? But then again it still kind of confuses me because we are only talking about 2mm larger here which is not much.. Because the new ceramic rolex submariner is slightly larger than the older counter part.. rolex wanted to beef up the sub a bit so they got rid of the older size. on the other side, rolex still kept the daydate once they launched the daydate II.. Im just comparing to other watch houses and trying to see the trend if there is one? Maybe Rolex isn't a good company to compare AP to as rolex watches have never been as large as AP Roo's to begin with. AP Roos have always been known to be larger watches I guess if I compare it rolex then it would make sense that AP is beefing up the ROO a bit and slowly removing the 42mm ROO. BUT at the same time, I feel the reason they gave the 44mm ROO stick markers and not that classic arabic dial, is because they do plan on keeping the 42mm around?? IMO if they put the arabic dial in the 44mm ROO, it would be the perfect AP. I would like to hear everyones thoughts on this and what they think AP may or may not do in the near future?

14 October 2012, 01:40 AM	#6
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Not a chance. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

14 October 2012, 05:01 AM	#8
Dickson Lim "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: planet Posts: 1,517	There are clearly markets for both size, not a chance IMO. __________________ Dream the impossible, and make it possible!

14 October 2012, 05:10 AM	#9
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,005	Nope. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

14 October 2012, 12:13 AM	#2
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	Don't think they will remove 42MM. It's a size most can wear whereabouts a 44 may not be. If Panerai started launching more watches in 47MM, I would doubt they would consider discontinuing production on 44s.

14 October 2012, 12:58 AM	#3
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Maybe AP should have three sports lines... Royal Oak - <41mm Royal Oak Offshore - 42mm Royal Oak Offshore Oversized - 44mm+

14 October 2012, 01:02 AM	#4
Watchonisto Banned Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Alex Location: European Union Watch: AP, ROLEX, PP, PAM Posts: 4,344	No

14 October 2012, 01:20 AM	#5
alexlt730512 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,248	i don't think it'll happen.

14 October 2012, 04:27 AM	#7
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	There will be some changes coming for sure, the 42 mm ROO line will be stream lined. I would say that about 60-70% of the current non-LE ROO line will be retired.

14 October 2012, 05:23 AM	#10
chazha "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: ChairmanMao Location: NY, US Watch: mickey watch Posts: 837	I strongly believe it will be eliminated... just see what happened with 39mm RO 15300... 'To break the rules, you must first master them' :D __________________ I am always single, even when I am married.

14 October 2012, 05:56 AM	#12
WhatTheDeuce "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Kyung Location: Anywhere? Watch: cha want... Posts: 4,488	I hope not... __________________ Instagram: @whatthedeuce_

14 October 2012, 07:34 AM	#14
Silvio Mosiello "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Matthew Location: Miami/NY Watch: the shoes. Posts: 3,482	No way

14 October 2012, 07:41 AM	#15
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	The RC's will be staying in the line and I think the 42mm size is here to stay just not as many as currently produced, some will be discontinued for sure.

14 October 2012, 10:09 AM	#16
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	Nope.

14 October 2012, 12:20 PM	#17
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	42mm is pretty big as it is. About as big as I like to go. AP would lose too much market share going exclusively to 44mm. Just not going to happen. Now what AP needs to do is modify there bracelets so folks with smaller then 7" wrists can wear. That would open the market significantly to their bracelet models. Rolex has done with by gong from four permanent links to three. __________________

14 October 2012, 04:39 PM	#18
kriskros "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Roaming Around SW Watch: a Mackalit Posts: 56	O just heard from an AP guy that they are planning to have the same petite tapisserie of ro to roo though not sure if i understand it right. For me 42mm roo will still be around as w the 44mm roo. Imho Sent from my iPhone 5 using Tapatalk

14 October 2012, 04:56 PM	#19
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	A lot will happen during the next year, Less points of sales = more watches to each AD. But as Mike already said i'm sure some of the 42mm models will be discontinued in a near future. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

14 October 2012, 06:08 PM	#20
mb23 Banned Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: Westchester, NY Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 4,744	To be honest, I think we have a bit to many ROO's at the moment. A little house cleaning will help :-)

15 October 2012, 04:54 AM	#26
Porsche-ah "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Pierre Location: Toronto Watch: and learn! Posts: 155	I love the 42mm.... It wears just as large as my 44mm Hublot. I believe and sincerely hope they are here to stay.

15 October 2012, 12:03 PM	#30
jenniferjanef "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,828	Despite I have small wrist, I personally find the 44 wears a lot better than the 42, don't know why but it does. Rolex kept the DD 36mm along with DDII 41mm cos 5mm differences us a big difference and nowadays lots of woman likes to wear oversize watches hence 36mm looks just nice.. I too hope AP will keep the 42mm. You cannot have too many choices to choose from. .. Jen.

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