GMT and Toys

[dwaine99]

[flumazenil]

Is that a silencer?

[dwaine99]

100% legal and registered with ATF... most don't realize that private ownership is allowed in the following states: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, ME, MD, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI, and WY

[Robb]

Great pic!

[GrandDaddy]

Originally Posted by dwaine99

100% legal and registered with ATF... most don't realize that private ownership is allowed in the following states: AL, AR, AK, AZ, CO, CT, FL, GA, ID, IN, KY, LA, ME, MD, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WA, WI, and WY

Yup, you can own one in Washington State, but you cannot legally use it, not even at the range. So what's the point of owning it if you can't use it?

[dwaine99]

Va is "supressor" friendly..... can even transport thru other "friendly" states....machine gun friendly too.... only problem is a nice one cost as much as GOLD Rolex...

[GrandDaddy]

Originally Posted by dwaine99

Va is "supressor" friendly..... can even transport thru other "friendly" states....machine gun friendly too.... only problem is a nice one cost as much as GOLD Rolex...

I would rather own a full-auto rifle than a suppresor. I had the pleasure of firing full auto (M4 and several versions of MP5) during one of my overseas vacations. It was a kick in the pants. And yes, there was a supressed glock there too. The trigger reset was actually louder than the actual bang.

[Gaijin]

I am personally very offended by these gun posts and photos.

[dwaine99]

Your Daytona offends me........hehe

[GrandDaddy]

Originally Posted by KansaiVet

I am pesonally very offended by these gun posts and photos.

You, coming from a City/State that has an annual "machine gun shoot" as a charity fund-raiser, signs all over the place leading to the shoot and all???? Geesh.

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by GrandDaddy

You, coming from a City/State that has an annual "machine gun shoot" as a charity fund-raiser, signs all over the place leading to the shoot and all???? Geesh.

That and the fact that I carry a gun 24/7 because of work.

[dwaine99]

Send me the watch and I'll forgive you.

[Mike734]

Guns are not toys. And, why is the hammer back on the left one?

[yachtsales]

Originally Posted by Mike734

Guns are not toys. And, why is the hammer back on the left one?

must be getting ready to shoot it

[dwaine99]

Originally Posted by Mike734

Guns are not toys. And, why is the hammer back on the left one?

The hammer is back and the safety is on... that is the way you carry a loaded .45..... These are some of my toys........and apparently you know nothing about carrying a .45.... Appreciate the photo or politely go away......... thank you.

Here is my wife's daily carry...no exposed hammer......

[Mike734]

Originally Posted by dwaine99

The hammer is back and the safety is on... that is the way you carry a loaded .45..... These are some of my toys........and apparently you know nothing about carrying a .45..

Well I am a deputized federal LEO but I was not trained on the .45. I would think for the photo, the weapon would be unloaded. Nice watch though.

[gha]

Just wondering, why would it be recommended that you carry it that way? (Hammer back/safety on?)
I admit, I know squat about guns. Just a question...don't shoot....gha

[dwaine99]

Thanks.... my apologies if I offended you or anyone... it was removed from a holster and staged for the photo and immediately placed in a secure location. To me a Colt Gold Cup Series 70 is an adult "toy" but demands caution just like a Honda 600RR or my Harley Fatboy or a fast car... to me they are toys... and I've always used extreme care and caution when handling or using them for the past 35 yrs...same goes for my bikes...

The Colt can be safely carried in this mode... one in the chamber and ready to fire and thumb safety in the safe position.... It is nothing more than a tool when at rest and will not hurt anyone until a human uses it in a intentional or wreckless manner.

To the average person, these are not toys and neither is a 180 mph motorcycle....

[mike]

Originally Posted by gha

Just wondering, why would it be recommended that you carry it that way? (Hammer back/safety on?)
I admit, I know squat about guns. Just a question...don't shoot....gha

To simply answer your question, it's called condition "one". It's the prefered method of carry for the professional.

[GrandDaddy]

Cocked and locked, ready to rock. Just strange that you have a supressor in the picture and neither pistol has a threaded barrel. Just showin' off, maybe?

[GrandDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mike734

Well I am a deputized federal LEO but I was not trained on the .45.

Wow, that's scary. You would think that since you are an LEO you would have an idea on the manual of arms for most (if not all) handguns. What if your only weapon of opportunity is a 1911 (BTW, it's called a 1911, not a .45), would you be S.O.L. then? Think about it.

[Gaijin]

I was a US Army MP. I was trained on the 1911 and carried one every shift for 4 years less some time in MPI when I carried a concealed .38.

At every duty station I was at we were not allowed to have a round in the chamber or the hammer cocked back. We had to have the weapon on safe. Hammer down. Therefore if I needed to fire my weapon (which of course would be under stress and duress) I needed to take the weapon off of safe, chamber a round, hope the grip safety worked properly and fire the weapon.

Baaaaah.

Love the Glock 17 I carry now. Point and shoot.

Having said that, I am really offended by all this gun talk and actual pictures of weapons here.

[Rawhyde]

I got a new FN FiveSeven a couple of weeks ago. My camera is pretty lousy or I'd post a pic. I passed up a Colt civilian version National Match made in the 1950's about 20 years ago and have regretted it ever since. (At least I was smart enough to pick up a Colt Woodsman Match Target that day....)

Rawhyde

[dwaine99]

I have one of the first 1000 G17's imported into the US... I'd post a pic but it might offend someone.........hehehehehe I trust the Glocks more than any other handgun...... but since I offended KansaiVet, I'm seriously thinking of selling all my handguns, my wife's datejust 18kt/ss, my GMT-II for a $100.00 and buying his and hers Casios.............hehehehe

[Mike734]

Originally Posted by mike

To simply answer your question, it's called condition "one". It's the prefered method of carry for the professional.

LEO weapons around here don't have external safety's of that nature. No cop would carry his .45 in that state. The risk of accidental discharge is too great.

Originally Posted by GrandDaddy

Wow, that's scary. You would think that since you are an LEO you would have an idea on the manual of arms for most (if not all) handguns. What if your only weapon of opportunity is a 1911 (BTW, it's called a 1911, not a .45), would you be S.O.L. then? Think about it.

I was being a little humble. I know how to use the weapon but have not qualified on it.

Originally Posted by KansaiVet

I was a US Army MP. I was trained on the 1911 and carried one every shift for 4 years less some time in MPI when I carried a concealed .38.

At every duty station I was at we were not allowed to have a round in the chamber or the hammer cocked back. We had to have the weapon on safe. Hammer down.

He too should not have the hammer cocked nor should he have a round in the chamber unless he is about to shoot or unless his SOP's require it.


Sorry if I started something here that sidetracked the thread. I just get offended by people who LOVE guns a little too much. They are a necessary evil IMHO.

[fear]

Guns are bad! Why do some Rolex fans glorify an evil object?

[Gaijin]

I actually don't really like guns and hate having to go to the range every three months and having to qualify. All that means to me is that I am going to have to clean my weapon afterwards. Hate cleaning my weapon.

I have never understood my co-workers who love to go shoot even on thier days off.

As far as the 1911 .45, it is carried that way in most police departments. The 1911 has a grip safety that allows it to be carried safely with a round in the chamber and the normal safety off. The Army just had strick post SOP which prohibited that. I am guessing that since 9-11 those policies have changed.

The action reaction principle dictates that if I need to use deadly force and I have to jack a round and take my weapon off of safe I am probably dead already. That and not training to do it under stress and getting some serious muscle memory skills is going to diminish your survivability in a close quarter gun fight or with a crazed person up close armed with an edged weapon. Not having a round in the chamber and having your weapon on safe for an on duty urban police officer is sheer madness.

[fear]

[QUOTE=KansaiVet;356369Hate cleaning my weapon.

Ain't that the truth!!! I hate cleaning guns!!

[dwaine99]

Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than any of my handguns.........

[mike]

Originally Posted by Mike734

LEO weapons around here don't have external safety's of that nature. No cop would carry his .45 in that state. The risk of accidental discharge is too great.

Mike,

Not to start one of those "here we go again" threads, but The condition one 1911 is in fact the prefered sidearm of many law enforcement agencies.

The SWAT team I served on for one, not to mention the U.S. Marshall SOG teams and the FBI HRT teams. I trained with both and can surely state both those agencies are in fact issued that weapon.
Over the years it's been my honor to train many of these guys.