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lsettle · 28 January 2013, 07:05 AM

I went to look at this 5513 2.3 million meters first sub. The owner said that he bought it new in 1970 for $325.00, no papers nor box. I noted that the bezel insert has aged a great deal compared to the dial. Is this normal?

Thanks,

Lawrence

TimeToGo · 28 January 2013, 07:25 AM

It is very possible.

Can you post better pictures?

Fiat5513 · 28 January 2013, 07:27 AM

Dodgy pic.

Kingair · 28 January 2013, 07:27 AM

Lawrence have a look at the picture you posted . . . . what do you want us to tell . . . ;-)

Post a sharp one

HAGS

lsettle · 28 January 2013, 07:40 AM

It is the sellers photo, I should have taken my own photos.

Lawrence

mysonsrolex · 28 January 2013, 12:18 PM

I have since flipped it but I had a 68 m/f 5513 with a faded bezel - you can see it in my avatar. So I'll say yes but you do need a better pic before the real experts can help you. Mine was a serial 2.4mill if that helps

swish77 · 29 January 2013, 01:49 AM

Yes, there are certain batches of Sub bezel inserts that faded like this. They're known as "ghost" inserts. Here's my faded insert on my 5512. However, there are fake ones out there, too, so be careful. (Virtually all the cool vintage Rolex patina'd items are being faked now in Asia.) And this bracelet looks like an old Speedy Pro bracelet, not a Rolex bracelet. Still, it's hard to tell anything from the photo. If the seller really wants to sell, ask for detailed, close-up photos of everything. These watches are expensive. I wouldn't provide a bad, blurry photo like this for a $50 Ikea bookcase I was trying to sell.

lsettle · 29 January 2013, 03:02 AM

Here are some better photos of the watch.

Eagle eyes wanted!!!

What do you guys thing? any parts look "off" ?

Thanks,

Lawrence

Mark020 · 29 January 2013, 03:31 AM

Nice one! What's the asking?

lsettle · 19 February 2013, 01:20 AM

Update,

Sent the 5513 to Al Jenskey for a servicing.

Lawrence

1675-David · 19 February 2013, 04:32 AM

great dial!!

Stoner319 · 19 February 2013, 05:10 AM

Is it just the angles or what is up with the bracelet?

violetman · 19 February 2013, 09:06 PM

dial and fat insert are beautiful

J Bond · 19 February 2013, 11:27 PM

Beautiful watch.!

lsettle · 20 February 2013, 04:06 AM

Stoner319- There was an aftermarket bracelet when I received it. It came off and a NATO went on.

Has my case been polished a lot?

Thanks,

Lawrence

28 January 2013, 07:05 AM	#1
lsettle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Canada Watch: 16570/14060/3570.5 Posts: 653	5513 2.3 million m/f I went to look at this 5513 2.3 million meters first sub. The owner said that he bought it new in 1970 for $325.00, no papers nor box. I noted that the bezel insert has aged a great deal compared to the dial. Is this normal? Thanks, Lawrence

29 January 2013, 01:49 AM	#7
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 7,003	Yes, there are certain batches of Sub bezel inserts that faded like this. They're known as "ghost" inserts. Here's my faded insert on my 5512. However, there are fake ones out there, too, so be careful. (Virtually all the cool vintage Rolex patina'd items are being faked now in Asia.) And this bracelet looks like an old Speedy Pro bracelet, not a Rolex bracelet. Still, it's hard to tell anything from the photo. If the seller really wants to sell, ask for detailed, close-up photos of everything. These watches are expensive. I wouldn't provide a bad, blurry photo like this for a $50 Ikea bookcase I was trying to sell. Attached Images

28 January 2013, 07:25 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	It is very possible. Can you post better pictures?

28 January 2013, 07:27 AM	#3
Fiat5513 Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Everett Location: The world Watch: 1968 Rolex 5513 Posts: 45	Dodgy pic.

28 January 2013, 07:27 AM	#4
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Lawrence have a look at the picture you posted . . . . what do you want us to tell . . . ;-) Post a sharp one HAGS

28 January 2013, 07:40 AM	#5
lsettle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Canada Watch: 16570/14060/3570.5 Posts: 653	It is the sellers photo, I should have taken my own photos. Lawrence

28 January 2013, 12:18 PM	#6
mysonsrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Qld / Aus Watch: 5711 Posts: 150	I have since flipped it but I had a 68 m/f 5513 with a faded bezel - you can see it in my avatar. So I'll say yes but you do need a better pic before the real experts can help you. Mine was a serial 2.4mill if that helps

29 January 2013, 03:02 AM	#8
lsettle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Canada Watch: 16570/14060/3570.5 Posts: 653	Here are some better photos of the watch. Eagle eyes wanted!!! What do you guys thing? any parts look "off" ? Thanks, Lawrence

29 January 2013, 03:31 AM	#9
Mark020 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 2,133	Nice one! What's the asking?

19 February 2013, 01:20 AM	#10
lsettle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Canada Watch: 16570/14060/3570.5 Posts: 653	Update, Sent the 5513 to Al Jenskey for a servicing. Lawrence

19 February 2013, 04:32 AM	#11
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	great dial!!

19 February 2013, 05:10 AM	#12
Stoner319 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Watch: ing You Sleep Posts: 379	Is it just the angles or what is up with the bracelet?

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19 February 2013, 09:06 PM	#13
violetman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: HK Posts: 96	dial and fat insert are beautiful

19 February 2013, 11:27 PM	#14
J Bond Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: singapore Posts: 18	Beautiful watch.!

20 February 2013, 04:06 AM	#15
lsettle "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Lawrence Location: Canada Watch: 16570/14060/3570.5 Posts: 653	Stoner319- There was an aftermarket bracelet when I received it. It came off and a NATO went on. Has my case been polished a lot? Thanks, Lawrence