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kimnluna · 31 January 2013, 03:15 AM

I'm about to purchase a watch, either a pam320 or a rolex submariner. I like the submariner but the pam sings to me more. This will be my first watch. I plan on purchasing the one in the not so distant future. What's holding me back is the durability of the in house movement, P9XXX series. What's your feedback on it?

I like how the submariner has this durable 3135 movement but do you think it's all marketing?

Is the pam movement as durable as the 3135? I just dont like that the pam320 does not have a perpetual calendar.

kilyung · 31 January 2013, 03:54 AM

The P.9001 is very young. Too young to ascribe the adjective "durable". The 3135 is time tested. Get the Sub first then the PAM.

gmtm2 · 11 February 2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

The P.9001 is very young. Too young to ascribe the adjective "durable". The 3135 is time tested. Get the Sub first then the PAM.

well said!!

advocatia · 31 January 2013, 04:16 AM

Get the watch which most appeals to you. Both are great.

Often, message boards like this can scare you off. All it takes is one or two complaints about a problem with a watch and one might think the problem is far more widespread.
I have owned many a Rolex and am now on my second Panerai. No problems with either brand. Not one.

Rolex are everywhere. Subs especially. Panerai are not. Depends what appeals to you. But frankly, worrying about the movement of a watch before you buy it is like worrying about a car engine failing before you buy it. The 320 is sweeeet !!! Very much so. I say go with the Panerai 320. I love that watch.

Edited to add ..... perpetual calendar? Not sure where you are going with that?

kimnluna · 31 January 2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by advocatia

Get the watch which most appeals to you. Both are great.

Often, message boards like this can scare you off. All it takes is one or two complaints about a problem with a watch and one might think the problem is far more widespread.
I have owned many a Rolex and am now on my second Panerai. No problems with either brand. Not one.

Rolex are everywhere. Subs especially. Panerai are not. Depends what appeals to you. But frankly, worrying about the movement of a watch before you buy it is like worrying about a car engine failing before you buy it. The 320 is sweeeet !!! Very much so. I say go with the Panerai 320. I love that watch.

Edited to add ..... perpetual calendar? Not sure where you are going with that?

As for the perpetual calendar, you don't have to wind it every 2 months for the rolex unlike the panerai.

True. What PAMs do you own?

jvo300 · 31 January 2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kimnluna

As for the perpetual calendar, you don't have to wind it every 2 months for the rolex unlike the panerai.

True. What PAMs do you own?

That term doesn't mean what you think it does. Do some more reading on this message board and others. I believe you are referring to the difference between automatic and manual -- this dictates the winding though I have no idea what you mean by two months. A perpetual calendar relates to the date function, specifically the ability for the watch to understand leap years so as to avoid having to correct the date every month or year.

kimnluna · 31 January 2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jvo300

That term doesn't mean what you think it does. Do some more reading on this message board and others. I believe you are referring to the difference between automatic and manual -- this dictates the winding though I have no idea what you mean by two months. A perpetual calendar relates to the date function, specifically the ability for the watch to understand leap years so as to avoid having to correct the date every month or year.

Sorry for the wrong use of term. I mean having to adjust the date regularly. As for winding, i know the sub and the pam320 are automatics.

jvo300 · 31 January 2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kimnluna

Sorry for the wrong use of term. I mean having to adjust the date regularly. As for winding, i know the sub and the pam320 are automatics.

Unless I am misunderstanding your question, you will have to adjust the dates the same between a Rolex and Panerai (unless you plan on getting a Skydweller).

opelrsx · 31 January 2013, 04:42 AM

I have had the 320 for 24 days. It runs better than my 88.

Travelller · 16 February 2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

The P.9001 is very young. Too young to ascribe the adjective "durable". The 3135 is time tested...

+1

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Originally Posted by opelrsx

I have had the 320 for 24 days. It runs better than my 88...

bcacncnc · 31 January 2013, 12:16 PM

If you like both and you are starting with a single watch - IMHO - get the sub - then PAM next.

Nothing wrong with the 320 - mighty nice looking piece... just that I find the sub a better all rounder.

kimnluna · 31 January 2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bcacncnc

If you like both and you are starting with a single watch - IMHO - get the sub - then PAM next.

Nothing wrong with the 320 - mighty nice looking piece... just that I find the sub a better all rounder.

I currently have a tag though. Would you still consider that a single watch? As for servicing, how often should you service the pam? Just taking into consideration the maintenance and cost of owning one.

kimnluna · 31 January 2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bcacncnc

If you like both and you are starting with a single watch - IMHO - get the sub - then PAM next.

Nothing wrong with the 320 - mighty nice looking piece... just that I find the sub a better all rounder.

Have a tag already, would you still consider this as a first luxury watch?

rolex75216 · 16 February 2013, 05:44 AM

Did you make your decision yet? I am looking to purchase my first watch next month and I have it narrowed down to the PAM320 (or 312) and Rolex Submariner are on my list of Final selections. Let us know what you decide and why.

kimnluna · 19 November 2017, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rolex75216

Did you make your decision yet? I am looking to purchase my first watch next month and I have it narrowed down to the PAM320 (or 312) and Rolex Submariner are on my list of Final selections. Let us know what you decide and why.

Finally got the watch - pam320. It's been with me the past 4 years. I'm having it serviced right now. A screw got loose but i'm pretty sure it was my fault. I let it start and stop often while dropping it a couple times.

Service center told me, that's the only problem and they'll fix it right away. So in the 4 years, I've been using it, I'm completely happy with it.

I wouldn't have taken the Sub if i were to repeat myself. Definitely want to cop one without the date next time.

sphereman · 16 February 2013, 06:12 AM

it all comes down to 'which one sings to you more'
i would get the Sub first and PAM next.. (not 310 but something else). :)

31 January 2013, 03:15 AM	#1
kimnluna "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Philippines Posts: 8	PAM 320 durability? help! I'm about to purchase a watch, either a pam320 or a rolex submariner. I like the submariner but the pam sings to me more. This will be my first watch. I plan on purchasing the one in the not so distant future. What's holding me back is the durability of the in house movement, P9XXX series. What's your feedback on it? I like how the submariner has this durable 3135 movement but do you think it's all marketing? Is the pam movement as durable as the 3135? I just dont like that the pam320 does not have a perpetual calendar.

31 January 2013, 12:16 PM	#11
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	If you like both and you are starting with a single watch - IMHO - get the sub - then PAM next. Nothing wrong with the 320 - mighty nice looking piece... just that I find the sub a better all rounder. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

16 February 2013, 06:12 AM	#16
sphereman 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 981	it all comes down to 'which one sings to you more' i would get the Sub first and PAM next.. (not 310 but something else). :) __________________ 2023 Watch Collection Panerai: 249 California, 232, 390 Rolex: Starbucks Tudor: Blue Pelagos

31 January 2013, 03:54 AM	#2
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	The P.9001 is very young. Too young to ascribe the adjective "durable". The 3135 is time tested. Get the Sub first then the PAM.

31 January 2013, 04:16 AM	#4
advocatia Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Andy Location: Florida USA Watch: PAM 422 GMTIIC Posts: 868	Get the watch which most appeals to you. Both are great. Often, message boards like this can scare you off. All it takes is one or two complaints about a problem with a watch and one might think the problem is far more widespread. I have owned many a Rolex and am now on my second Panerai. No problems with either brand. Not one. Rolex are everywhere. Subs especially. Panerai are not. Depends what appeals to you. But frankly, worrying about the movement of a watch before you buy it is like worrying about a car engine failing before you buy it. The 320 is sweeeet !!! Very much so. I say go with the Panerai 320. I love that watch. Edited to add ..... perpetual calendar? Not sure where you are going with that?

31 January 2013, 04:42 AM	#9
opelrsx "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Vancouver Posts: 17	I have had the 320 for 24 days. It runs better than my 88.

16 February 2013, 05:44 AM	#14
rolex75216 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 2,008	Did you make your decision yet? I am looking to purchase my first watch next month and I have it narrowed down to the PAM320 (or 312) and Rolex Submariner are on my list of Final selections. Let us know what you decide and why.

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