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Old 26 February 2013, 11:13 PM   #1
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date vs no date sub?

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17 post and counting. Newbie, learning alot, more than mildy addicted and I never even expected to be here at all, but it was a friends passion and here I am.

Anyway, I am wondering about the opinions of the date vs non date model Sub. Having worn the simple victrinox watch for the past 25 years every day, which I am extremely fond of (it has a date, which I have never looked at once) I am now thinking about a rolex due to an upcoming milestone birthday.

Anyway, the version without date to me somehow looks naked or unfinished. Someone at an AD told me many owners grouse about the magnifier on the date and prefer the no date? Is there a strong positive sentiment for the no date version out there? it is alot cheaper and cleaner looking.

In the end it will be what I like better but I am very curious how rolex lovers feel

Thanks

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Old 26 February 2013, 11:22 PM   #2
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It'll be personal presence and requirements. ie: do you need to know the date as well as time?

The crystal, if available, can be replaced without the Cyclops and if it's an older model than you don't have to worry about AR should you do a DIY Cyclops removal. Newer models 2010+, pic C/P from Minus4Plus6:


I have two... one D and one ND and I'm fine with or with out.

My eye's are ageing in regards to reading glasses and the Cyclops really helps seeing the date.
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Old 26 February 2013, 11:29 PM   #3
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I do not like the cyclops and therefore prefer the beautiful well balanced and symmetrical Submariner

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Old 26 February 2013, 11:31 PM   #4
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Date model for me. If your eyes fail where you can't read the time, at least you will know what day it is!
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Old 26 February 2013, 11:52 PM   #5
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Date for me. I just got mine and love it!
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Old 27 February 2013, 12:02 AM   #6
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i do not like the cyclops and therefore prefer the beautiful well balanced and symmetrical submariner

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Old 27 February 2013, 12:11 AM   #7
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Sounds like you don't use the date feature.

So a no date is for you, no?
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Old 27 February 2013, 12:12 AM   #8
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No Date Sub 114060 For me, I love mine. nice & clean look
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Old 27 February 2013, 12:17 AM   #9
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Some prefer it and some do not.

For me the cyclops = Rolex, so this was my first choice.

However Daytona = no date, and I got one of these.

Get the one you like, and don't look back or worry what anyone else thinks.
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Old 27 February 2013, 12:19 AM   #10
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Date or no date

Seabreeze,
I too am a "newby" here, at least in post counts, however I've been researching my Rolex purchase on TRF for many months.
I chose the "no date" as it's in my opinion at least, the closest to the original old school Submariner from the 60's.
I love the "old school-vintage" look. The vintage ad below has my new 14060M laid on it next to the 1967 model.
Without having a time machine to go back to 1967 I couldn't get any closer than the model I chose for my first Rolex.
Many like the "no cluttered" look of the no date model be it a vintage or one of the newer 14060 or 114060 styles.
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
Date or no date you can't go wrong. From all the months of reading here I can tell you that both models have their fans.
If you never use the date function on your watch now I guess you're open to either style. Whatever you choose keep us
posted on what you decide and welcome to TRF! Everyone here is great and very, very helpful.

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Old 27 February 2013, 12:24 AM   #11
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Old 27 February 2013, 12:30 AM   #12
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Clean lines of the Sub. If you want that look with a date an older SD fills the bill.
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Old 27 February 2013, 12:58 AM   #13
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I like the sub nd myself, but I wouldn't mind having the date sub either.. both are fine models and the date/cyclops is a defining feature of Rolex. I liked the cleaner lines of the sub nd slightly over the date. Someday if I get a second Rolex it will definitely have a date/cyclops.
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:02 AM   #14
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I prefer a date.
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:03 AM   #15
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I like the Sub. The Sub Date is nice as well.

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Old 27 February 2013, 01:11 AM   #16
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"I like the Sub. The Sub Date is nice as well."

I agree with this............. and very well put as well
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:33 AM   #17
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Either is great, of course, but I've never understood why the date is so necessary. I've said it before, why not just use your bezel for the date? It works great. See, it's the 26th today!
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:42 AM   #18
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:43 AM   #19
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Go two liner like Mikes' and mine and be part of Rolex history. Easily priced between $3600 - $4300. Slap a NATO or other band to switch it up from time to time and its like you have more watches than one.
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:49 AM   #20
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Old 27 February 2013, 01:56 AM   #21
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Hi guys,

17 post and counting. Newbie, learning alot, more than mildy addicted and I never even expected to be here at all, but it was a friends passion and here I am.

Anyway, I am wondering about the opinions of the date vs non date model Sub. Having worn the simple victrinox watch for the past 25 years every day, which I am extremely fond of (it has a date, which I have never looked at once) I am now thinking about a rolex due to an upcoming milestone birthday.

Anyway, the version without date to me somehow looks naked or unfinished. Someone at an AD told me many owners grouse about the magnifier on the date and prefer the no date? Is there a strong positive sentiment for the no date version out there? it is alot cheaper and cleaner looking.

In the end it will be what I like better but I am very curious how rolex lovers feel

Thanks

Oh and sorry my last post got deleted....apparently a major faux pas on my part
I just got my 114060 ND SUBC. I love it! I have had many Rolex sport watches over the last 30+ years, all with the cyclops and date. If you want to know the date look at your cell phone. The ND is so clean looking it is great. I don't miss the date at all. Whatever SUB you get, you are going to love the bracelet with SEL, solid center links, AND the Glidelock clasp which is awesome. It is the most comfortable Rolex sport watch I have ever owned. I wear ir every day.
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:07 AM   #22
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If you don't need a date, go no-date. Wonderful symmetry and simplicity. The 14060m is one of the greatest modern Rolex watches.
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:16 AM   #23
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no date is more simple.

date is classic.

i choose date only when i have no choice (eg the Bluesy only comes in date version)
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:23 AM   #24
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Well you have great taste, the Submariner should be a staple in every mans collextion(IMO). I have owned Subs with Date, as well as a Sea-Dweller, and the SubC ND is definitely one of my favorites of all the dive watches. The 114060 is gorgeous, and the clean face with maxi dial is awesome.

That all being said, I'm some what if a hypocrite because I'm thinking about reading my 114060 off for a 216570 Explorer II. I can get along no problem without the date, however, I do miss having a date function. Either way, I'll be happy.

If not having a date doesn't matter, I'd suggest the 114060. It's an astounding watch.

Good luck, and let us know what you choose!
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:31 AM   #25
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Nice watch..and that is a great ad. what magazine is it from?

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Seabreeze,
I too am a "newby" here, at least in post counts, however I've been researching my Rolex purchase on TRF for many months.
I chose the "no date" as it's in my opinion at least, the closest to the original old school Submariner from the 60's.
I love the "old school-vintage" look. The vintage ad below has my new 14060M laid on it next to the 1967 model.
Without having a time machine to go back to 1967 I couldn't get any closer than the model I chose for my first Rolex.
Many like the "no cluttered" look of the no date model be it a vintage or one of the newer 14060 or 114060 styles.
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
Date or no date you can't go wrong. From all the months of reading here I can tell you that both models have their fans.
If you never use the date function on your watch now I guess you're open to either style. Whatever you choose keep us
posted on what you decide and welcome to TRF! Everyone here is great and very, very helpful.

Tim
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:35 AM   #26
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I am pleased to hear there is a healthy appreciation for both. And I am all about liking what pleases me....but I "might" have been a little bummed if I chose one and later learned 99% of the world likes the other
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:35 AM   #27
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Well if you want any color other than black you're stuck getting the date. I wish Rolex offered no date on the hulk!
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:36 AM   #28
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please tell me what is 2 liner (the no date i assume) and where these good prices can be had.

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Old 27 February 2013, 02:46 AM   #29
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Date! Cyclops is just classic rolex.
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Old 27 February 2013, 02:52 AM   #30
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no wrong answer... Sea Dweller is always an option as well ?

here is some support for the 2 liner
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