Authenticate This Rolex (as best you can) Please

[spenser.sutherland]

Hello all,

I first want to say that I am quite glad that I stumbled upon this forum because I have had a long time infatuation with Rolexes. I have been offered a chance to secure my first rolex, but I want to ensure that it is authentic.

I was hoping that you all will be able to help me out and give your best judgement as to whether this is a legit Rolex or not. I know that only a certain amount of confidence can be made from pictures, so just do your best. My seller has said that he is willing to issue a refund if I am not completely satisfied. I intend to take it to an authorized Rolex dealer, but I felt this could be a good start and could avoid more work than necessary.


Here are the pictures. Thank your for your time and I look forward to participating in this community more frequently.

[Tools]

Your watch is fake..

Now go back and read the Forum Rules about fake discussions and valuations..

[spenser.sutherland]

Originally Posted by Tools

Your watch is fake..

Now go back and read the Forum Rules about fake discussions and valuations..

I'm sorry if I infringed on any rules here, but could you please elaborate on how you know this is fake? (I really need to know)

[77T]

Originally Posted by spenser.sutherland

I'm sorry if I infringed on any rules here, but could you please elaborate on how you know this is fake? (I really need to know)

Welcome to TRF!
Sorry Spenser - just consider this one a favor - you know what?
You just avoided a bad investment!

[spenser.sutherland]

Originally Posted by 77T

Welcome to TRF!
Sorry Spenser - just consider this one a favor - you know what?
You just avoided a bad investment!

haha thank you very much for the welcome!! So fake it is? That's a heartbreaker. I guess the wait goes on before I can get my first Rolex on my wrist. Thanks for helping me. Very much appreciate it, and am glad to be a part of the community.

[seabreeze]

Originally Posted by spenser.sutherland

haha thank you very much for the welcome!! So fake it is? That's a heartbreaker. I guess the wait goes on before I can get my first Rolex on my wrist. Thanks for helping me. Very much appreciate it, and am glad to be a part of the community.

These guys know their stuff...

hang around look at tons of pictures read the posts and you can learn a lot

Welcome

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by spenser.sutherland

I'm sorry if I infringed on any rules here, but could you please elaborate on how you know this is fake? (I really need to know)

Compare this fake DD to a DD at a trusted website like Rolex.com or here. You can see the differences with your own eyes.

[Grissom]

As Larry indicated above, we do not engage in any discussions about fakes, let alone one elaborating on how one knows it is a fake (which would only allow the fakers to get better at their faking).

[spenser.sutherland]

Originally Posted by Grissom

As Larry indicated above, we do not engage in any discussions about fakes, let alone one elaborating on how one knows it is a fake (which would only allow the fakers to get better at their faking).

without going into detail, could you just indicate real or fake. I will then delete this post. Very much appreciate it. This is determining whether I spend multiple thousands of dollars.

[LI Matt]

Originally Posted by Grissom

As Larry indicated above, we do not engage in any discussions about fakes, let alone one elaborating on how one knows it is a fake (which would only allow the fakers to get better at their faking).

Actually, the Forum Rules explicitly state: "Any allegation that a watch is a 'fake' must be supported with reason/s". If anyone feels that rule should be changed, take it up with the mods. Until then, that's the rule we're working under here.

As for "helping the fakers get better", anyone who is producing junk like this isn't interested in getting better. If stuff this bad is selling, what's the point in changing?

So ... this Day-Date is a fake because:
-- the cyclops is misaligned
-- the cyclops isn't magnifying
-- the date wheel is misaligned
-- the day wheel is misaligned
-- the font on the dial is wrong

[mr.president1]

Originally Posted by LI Matt

Actually, the Forum Rules explicitly state: "Any allegation that a watch is a 'fake' must be supported with reason/s". If anyone feels that rule should be changed, take it up with the mods. Until then, that's the rule we're working under here.

As for "helping the fakers get better", anyone who is producing junk like this isn't interested in getting better. If stuff this bad is selling, what's the point in changing?

So ... this Day-Date is a fake because:
-- the cyclops is misaligned
-- the cyclops isn't magnifying
-- the date wheel is misaligned
-- the day wheel is misaligned
-- the font on the dial is wrong

The fakers know all of this..., and they probably won't ever change considering they want to make a quick buck.... I don't think we're helping them by telling them the above things... But if it is against forum rules, then I will refrain from pointing them out in the future.

[Rolexwatch]

Horrid fake. That pic shouldn't be here.

[crowncollection]

Unfortunately fake


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[threemonkeys]

Nah...I'd rather not.

[chicfarmer1]

I really don't understand the thinking behind threads of this kind... if legitimately posted.
Why do people entertain spending thousands of dollars without any familiarity with the brand, or knowing what/who is a legitimate source?

I guess there are enough willing takers for all the scams out there, which scammers count on, don't they.

PS: If a mod here says it's fake, it's fake. And as others note, no training session here. It's possible to learn what's good, by doing what normal shoppers do.

[nick c]

Fake

[fedefiore]

soooooo fake.

[BadBoy]

Well i'll tell you what is wrong with it...!
The first thing that pops out is that hologram sticker which is not correctly alligned.. And, more important is that there should have been an engraving that said "Winner 24" !!!
That would have made it really real.....

[swomariner]

Originally Posted by BadBoy

The first thing that pops out is that hologram sticker which is not correctly alligned..

It has always amazed me how such a large majority of fake rolexes that put hologram stickers on the back can't manage to properly align the sticker. It just seems like such an easy thing to do, and these scammers f it up so frequently.

[powerfunk]

Don't understand why you have to "wait" to get your first Rolex. If you have "multiple thousands of dollars" and an internet connection, you can get one whenever you like. Story doesn't add up to me.

[mr.president1]

I am not understanding something here.. Your "seller" lets you take pics of a watch in his/her bedroom as it shows from last pic.. Kind of looks like you made the purchase and came on here to find out if it would pass as real or not... Just my sole opinion though.

However to the watch. YES, IT'S A FAKE. Just for starters.... The cyclops is a disaster, the day wheel should be in black not red (I believe for this sort of model), and the day wheel is too big to fit it the day box... Also the bracelet seems to be loose at the lug.. These are just a few of a ton of things wrong..

This one is super messy!

Gotta crawl before ya ball....

However if you are actually on the hunt for an authentic one, please by all means head to an AD. Number one the sight of a day date in 18k yellow will make your heart stop... And it's around 30+ thousand dollars... So come locked and loaded. Number two, AD's sell all authentic and will be of great quality.

[Grissom]

The OP has been made aware of how to further educate oneself, and can certainly begin to browse and participate as a part of that educational experience. Further commentary on the why's and how's one can tell it's a fake really don't serve us, but do potentially allow the fakers to get better at faking. The OP seemed quite interested until we made it clear we were not going to critique the watch any further than indicating it was fake, but no longer seems as interested, so perhaps it's time for a Moderator to lock this thread.

Of course, this is just my humble opinion.....

[mrbill2mrbill2]

As I have stated posting the obviuos flaws does not help the fakers. They could spot their flaws if they looked - they do not care.

Pointing out such obvious flaws does help educate new comers.

Is not that is what one the great things about TRF?

We all started with little or no knowledge.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by mrbill2mrbill2

As I have stated posting the obviuos flaws does not help the fakers. They could spot their flaws if they looked - they do not care.

Pointing out such obvious flaws does help educate new comers.

Is not that is what one the great things about TRF?

We all started with little or no knowledge.

As a new comer, I would like to say "thank you" for your comments. One of my reasons for joining the forum is to learn/share information from like minded individuals about the brand(and others). I understand why someone would be hesitant to point out the flaws but the truth is scammers already know they are fake. Their objective is to scam the newcomers to the brand.

[powerfunk]

I definitely agree that this process helps newcomers such as myself learn a lot.

But I also think the notion that "fakers don't even wanna try to be that accurate anyway" is flawed. Fakers are absolutely trying to tweak their garbage, every damn day. They know ten things may be glaringly wrong with their garbage, but if ten people immediately say "well first of all that bezel is way wrong" then that can certainly help them prioritize their manufacturing changes.

But like we love to say in New England, "it is what it is!"

[MitchellWiggs]

The date & day wheels look like they're trying to peek out from behind windows, but cant quite reach lol.

[GermanyMatt]

That POS has so many issues it should be its own magazine. lol..

[mymanmatt]

Not even a good fake!!

[bayerische]

Horrible.