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Moraguy · 12 May 2013, 11:12 PM

Just received my new Explorer II 42mm White, looking through a 5X loop at the edge of the hands, the black is uneven and you can see what appears to be the marks from cutting the metal, on the face of the hands the black finish is fine. On the orange hand, one side edge is orange the other side edge is gold/brass colored. I had read a review that said that this was an issue on the 40mm but had been resolved on the 42mm.

Are you guys seeing he same thing?

I bought the watch from a reliable source, not an AD, so there is that little thought in the back of your mind, could it be?

Also, has anyone been able to fake the laser coronet on the crystal?

ecsub44 · 12 May 2013, 11:39 PM

Post some pics, if you can. Not of your concern with the hands, but the watch. And the laser coronet too ,if you can.

DC Engineer · 12 May 2013, 11:46 PM

looking at my watch would through a 5X loop would be equal to looking through a girlfriends phone. it would only be a painful experience, some stuff you're better off not knowing...

Rashid.bk · 13 May 2013, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DC Engineer

looking at my watch would through a 5X loop would be equal to looking through a girlfriends phone. it would only be a painful experience, some stuff you're better off not knowing...

Yeap.

Rogdogg · 12 May 2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DC Engineer

looking at my watch would through a 5X loop would be equal to looking through a girlfriends phone. it would only be a painful experience, some stuff you're better off not knowing...

Exactly

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Tools · 13 May 2013, 12:04 AM

I'll bet that if you were using a 10x loupe you would see even more machine marks and paint imperfections...

Heck, why stop there... there are a lot of microscopes you can get to look at every speck of dust, swirl mark, and even some porosity in the case stamping and dial paint matrix.. maybe the edges of the engravings are rough and wavy...

427shark · 13 May 2013, 12:16 AM

What my naked eyes don't see won't hurt me. I'd imagine that using a 5x loop to inspect other brands would reviele even more imperfections than Rolex

Singslinger · 13 May 2013, 12:19 AM

I have a 42mm white Exp II.

It looks great to the naked eye and that's good enough for me... and luckily I don't own a loupe or any kind of magnifying instrument.

However if it bothers you and if you think it'll gnaw at you, then I'd suggest trying to find a piece which doesn't have any imperfections.

padi56 · 13 May 2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Moraguy

Just received my new Explorer II 42mm White, looking through a 5X loop at the edge of the hands, the black is uneven and you can see what appears to be the marks from cutting the metal, on the face of the hands the black finish is fine. On the orange hand, one side edge is orange the other side edge is gold/brass colored. I had read a review that said that this was an issue on the 40mm but had been resolved on the 42mm.

Are you guys seeing he same thing?

I bought the watch from a reliable source, not an AD, so there is that little thought in the back of your mind, could it be?

Also, has anyone been able to fake the laser coronet on the crystal?

If you can see the LEC with the naked eye than that could indicate a fake watch as its just on top of the crystal.The LEC on a genuine Rolex is etched into the crystal its not on the crystal surface or underneath it. Its made up of hundreds of tiny dot like bubbles set at different heights throughout the crystal, (its so it does not create a weakness in the crystal.And might I further suggest you throw away your lupe and just enjoy wearing your watch and yes the hands are 18Ct gold.

kilyung · 13 May 2013, 12:27 AM

Loupes are bad!

FeelingTheBlues · 13 May 2013, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Loupes are bad!

Amen to that!

You will always find imperfections on watches if you really want to, however well built and expensive they are. I'd recommend you to forget about those and enjoy your watch to the fullest!

Moraguy · 13 May 2013, 12:34 AM

I get it. Thanks for the reality guidance.

FNFZ4 · 13 May 2013, 01:49 AM

its an imperfect world

Think of it as what makes our Rolex unique. You might feel better.

Vincent65 · 13 May 2013, 02:19 AM

yep, it's paint sprayed onto metal hands, in a tool-watch - chuck the loupe!

Angrypuppy · 13 May 2013, 04:11 AM

Joke: patient, "hey doc it hurts when I go like this". Doc, "don't do that".

Put down the loupe.

melons · 13 May 2013, 04:19 AM

I'm sort of picky and I've yet to see any flaws in my black dialed Explorer 2.

Magic-Matt · 13 May 2013, 04:27 AM

Believe me, Im a real nut for this kind of thing! :-) I kind of like to challenge my high-end watches to see which has the most perfect finish under a 10X loupe. So far my Glashutte Original Sports Evo comes out on the top. The Rollies Ive found imperfections in the finish on the iridium dials, scratch marks on the markers, badly aligned hands, date wheel not symmetrical, I could go on... Gee boy if I had a microscope the list would never stop! Lol

However, based on what you're saying that does sound like a bit more significant than the usual imperfections and I would for sure be uneasy about it.

landroverking · 13 May 2013, 04:34 AM

JC Rolex like all man made items is far from prefect.

SeaDweller50 · 13 May 2013, 04:35 AM

Would love to see some macro images of this explorer.

77T · 13 May 2013, 04:56 AM

Congrats on getting your Expl. II

Rolex like race car to me - follow the 50/50 rule on appearance. If it looks good 50' away @ 50 mph, then alls well!

Jocke · 13 May 2013, 04:59 AM

I guess the painter is kicked out today.

Johny · 13 May 2013, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

I guess the painter is kicked out today.

thats rough.

Vincent65 · 13 May 2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

I guess the painter is kicked out today.

this is done by blowing out a mouthful of paint

T. Ferguson · 13 May 2013, 09:55 AM

Get yourself an electron microscope if you really want to get depressed.

petenyc · 14 May 2013, 07:01 AM

kill the loupe

Tri-Tip · 13 May 2013, 05:01 AM

Maybe the sides of the hands are supposed to be in a stippled pattern.

submariner123 · 13 May 2013, 05:13 AM

As long as it looks good to the naked eye I'm ok.

Cru Jones · 13 May 2013, 05:16 AM

Would love to see pix. Disappointing to hear.

Olav16710 · 13 May 2013, 05:55 AM

Think of it as a fingerprint for your watch.

floater156 · 13 May 2013, 06:12 AM

Is there anything in life that doesn't have imperfections? Imperfections are what give character. Now you know how to tell your watch apart from others.

12 May 2013, 11:12 PM	#1
Moraguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Willis, TX Posts: 48	Explorer II 42mm, the hands Just received my new Explorer II 42mm White, looking through a 5X loop at the edge of the hands, the black is uneven and you can see what appears to be the marks from cutting the metal, on the face of the hands the black finish is fine. On the orange hand, one side edge is orange the other side edge is gold/brass colored. I had read a review that said that this was an issue on the 40mm but had been resolved on the 42mm. Are you guys seeing he same thing? I bought the watch from a reliable source, not an AD, so there is that little thought in the back of your mind, could it be? Also, has anyone been able to fake the laser coronet on the crystal?

12 May 2013, 11:39 PM	#2
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	Post some pics, if you can. Not of your concern with the hands, but the watch. And the laser coronet too ,if you can. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

13 May 2013, 12:04 AM	#6
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	I'll bet that if you were using a 10x loupe you would see even more machine marks and paint imperfections... Heck, why stop there... there are a lot of microscopes you can get to look at every speck of dust, swirl mark, and even some porosity in the case stamping and dial paint matrix.. maybe the edges of the engravings are rough and wavy... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

13 May 2013, 12:16 AM	#7
427shark "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: JD Location: Jersey Watch: Dj2 tt, 126610LV Posts: 772	What my naked eyes don't see won't hurt me. I'd imagine that using a 5x loop to inspect other brands would reviele even more imperfections than Rolex __________________ It's not easy being green

13 May 2013, 01:49 AM	#13
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12 May 2013, 11:46 PM	#3
DC Engineer "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NoVA Watch: 116710 Posts: 218	looking at my watch would through a 5X loop would be equal to looking through a girlfriends phone. it would only be a painful experience, some stuff you're better off not knowing...

13 May 2013, 12:19 AM	#8
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	I have a 42mm white Exp II. It looks great to the naked eye and that's good enough for me... and luckily I don't own a loupe or any kind of magnifying instrument. However if it bothers you and if you think it'll gnaw at you, then I'd suggest trying to find a piece which doesn't have any imperfections.

13 May 2013, 12:27 AM	#10
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	Loupes are bad!

13 May 2013, 12:34 AM	#12
Moraguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Willis, TX Posts: 48	I get it. Thanks for the reality guidance.

13 May 2013, 02:19 AM	#14
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	yep, it's paint sprayed onto metal hands, in a tool-watch - chuck the loupe!

13 May 2013, 04:11 AM	#15
Angrypuppy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Jason Location: FL390 Posts: 2,376	Joke: patient, "hey doc it hurts when I go like this". Doc, "don't do that". Put down the loupe.

13 May 2013, 04:19 AM	#16
melons "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: GMT -5 Watch: Rolex/Panerai Posts: 991	I'm sort of picky and I've yet to see any flaws in my black dialed Explorer 2.

13 May 2013, 04:27 AM	#17
Magic-Matt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Matthew Location: Marbella Watch: Exp 216570 Polar Posts: 357	Believe me, Im a real nut for this kind of thing! :-) I kind of like to challenge my high-end watches to see which has the most perfect finish under a 10X loupe. So far my Glashutte Original Sports Evo comes out on the top. The Rollies Ive found imperfections in the finish on the iridium dials, scratch marks on the markers, badly aligned hands, date wheel not symmetrical, I could go on... Gee boy if I had a microscope the list would never stop! Lol However, based on what you're saying that does sound like a bit more significant than the usual imperfections and I would for sure be uneasy about it.

13 May 2013, 04:34 AM	#18
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	JC Rolex like all man made items is far from prefect.

13 May 2013, 04:35 AM	#19
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	Would love to see some macro images of this explorer.

13 May 2013, 04:56 AM	#20
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,015	Congrats on getting your Expl. II Rolex like race car to me - follow the 50/50 rule on appearance. If it looks good 50' away @ 50 mph, then alls well! __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

13 May 2013, 04:59 AM	#21
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	I guess the painter is kicked out today. __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

13 May 2013, 09:55 AM	#24
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	Get yourself an electron microscope if you really want to get depressed. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

14 May 2013, 07:01 AM	#25
petenyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: pete Location: NYC Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,011	kill the loupe

13 May 2013, 05:01 AM	#26
Tri-Tip "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CA, USA Watch: Out!!! Posts: 6,474	Maybe the sides of the hands are supposed to be in a stippled pattern.

13 May 2013, 05:13 AM	#27
submariner123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: England Watch: 116610LN Posts: 643	As long as it looks good to the naked eye I'm ok.

13 May 2013, 05:16 AM	#28
Cru Jones 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 35,299	Would love to see pix. Disappointing to hear.

13 May 2013, 05:55 AM	#29
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13 May 2013, 06:12 AM	#30
floater156 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Wisconsin Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,984	Is there anything in life that doesn't have imperfections? Imperfections are what give character. Now you know how to tell your watch apart from others. __________________ Lead by example through production.

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