Black Blue GMT vs 116520 SS White Daytona vs PAM 111/510

[Osler Marine]

Hello all, I'm new to the forum in terms of posting but I have been reading all of your informative posts for a while. I have a sub 116610 LN and a 216570 Explorer II. For my next watch I'm eyeing the new GMTII black/blue bezel, SS White Daytona, or the PAM 111 or next gen 510. My questions for you all are:

1. Does the 216570 make having the GMTII black/blue redundant?

2. Seems like many Rolex Sub owners tend to get a Daytona down the line, should this purchase come before a Panerai?

3. I have a 6.75 inch wrist so a 47mm PAM is no go although the 372 looks awesome. What do you guys think about the PAM 510? should I wait for that or go with the classic 111? the 8 day movement sounds awesome but the "8 Day" lettering on the dial kind of a miss.

Thanks guys!

[rebel_1]

1. I don't think having both is redundant even though both have 24hr function. I own the GMTIIC and its quite possibly the most comfortable Rolex I own.

2. If you like the Chrono feature along w no date, then the Daytona fits the itch. Personally, I prefer 3 hand autos & I like having a date feature (although its not a deal breaker) & I don't like Chronos w screw down pushers.

3. I really can't say on the PAM 510. I personally have a 112. At first I didn't like the no seconds & no date. Now I feel that if you don't see the date, what's the need to see the seconds?!! Anyway, I also like having the 9. Perhaps one day OP will make my perfect PAM: in house manual movement w 8 day or longer reserve, power reserve on the back, date & seconds functions, 44mm Luminor, 300m WR, w polished TI case & display back.

[Watchdog]

Panerai 510 for me. :)

[ra's ag]

You have an explorer and a sub. To me that makes the gmt redundant. I would go with the Pam for variety.

[NutNut]

In terms of functionality, it's the 4 hand GMT2C for me. The multiple time-zone feature is very useful. It also happens to look like one fantastic watch!

[subtona]

Yes
No
No

[HRFdez]

1. Yes

2. Not a an fan of the Daytona ( no opinion)

3. No

[lig]

Interesting post. I have a 116520 white face. a 111 and an old school Fat Lady GMT and a 6.75 wrist.

Given your current current lineup - my vote is 111.

Wearing it right now in fact. All good choices - but if you enjoy the Panerai vibe the 111 is a great place to start.

[mikelprz]

Black and Blue.. i think, rolex will develop a Pepsi bezel and the Black and blue will be short production,, possibly making it a collectible later..

[jackwebb]

No
Yes
Get the 111

[Billywiz]

go for the daytona...avoid the PAM like plague. I had one ...now I would not have one given...looked great but build terrible...in just 8 years from new went for repair 3 times. JUST MY EPERIANCE but not in the same class as Rolex.

[427shark]

IMO go Daytona for your next watch and don't give it a second thought.

[kilyung]

Originally Posted by Osler Marine

1. Does the 216570 make having the GMTII black/blue redundant?

2. Seems like many Rolex Sub owners tend to get a Daytona down the line, should this purchase come before a Panerai?

3. I have a 6.75 inch wrist so a 47mm PAM is no go although the 372 looks awesome. What do you guys think about the PAM 510? should I wait for that or go with the classic 111? the 8 day movement sounds awesome but the "8 Day" lettering on the dial kind of a miss.

1. Not at all.
2. Have you tried on a Daytona? If you're considering Panerais, a Daytona may be too small for your tastes.
3. I've tried a 372 on my 6.5" wrist and thought it looked ok. The 510 is (IMO) going to replace the 111 as the bread and butter model... despite the "8 day" mess.

[landroverking]

ExpII Vs GMT. GMT tracks three time zones.