Explorer II winding question

[SolanNo1]

So my 216570 is a year old now (still under warranty).

It stopped a few days ago and while winding it I noticed that the initial 30-40 turns were smooth but after that I could distinctly feel clicks. Tried winding it again this morning and saw the same results...the first few turns (15-20) were incredibly smooth but after these turns, I felt clicks again.

So the questions for you...does clicking indicate that the watch is fully wound? Or is it time to exercise the warranty? Would appreciate any insight.

[expy2]

You are probably feeling the clutch working (to prevent over winding).

[Thatguy]

Originally Posted by expy2

You are probably feeling the clutch working (to prevent over winding).

This.. 40 turns should get it fully wound. Normal.

[HRFdez]

40 turns that is a lot. I only do between 25 and 35, which I believe is Rolex recommendation.

[SolanNo1]

Originally Posted by Thatguy

This.. 40 turns should get it fully wound. Normal.

Thanks for your responses expy and thatguy.

So, is the clicking sensation after the watch is fully wound normal? Can anyone with an 216570 confirm?

[HRFdez]

Originally Posted by SolanNo1

Thanks for your responses expy and thatguy.

So, is the clicking sensation after the watch is fully wound normal? Can anyone with an 216570 confirm?

I have one, but I never wind it that much.

[cop414]

Not sure about the Rolex movement but my Omega with it's 1120 movement has a clutch, 35 to 40 winds and then you hear it "clicking" in to prevent overwinding.

[T. Ferguson]

Originally Posted by HRFdez

40 turns that is a lot. I only do between 25 and 35, which I believe is Rolex recommendation.

About 40 turns to fill the tank when it's on "E". IIRC someone posted part of the Rolex instructions (I think on setting the watch) that states 25 or so turns to partially wind it, maybe that's what you are referring to. My GMTc sometimes doesn't even start up until the about the 18th turn.

No worries anyway; you can't over wind it.

[HRFdez]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

About 40 turns to fill the tank when it's on "E". IIRC someone posted part of the Rolex instructions (I think on setting the watch) that states 25 or so turns to partially wind it, maybe that's what you are referring to. My GMTc sometimes doesn't even start up until the about the 18th turn.

No worries anyway; you can't over wind it.

Cool

[SolanNo1]

All of the above is well and good, folks.

But.....my original question is......is clicking normal?

[DJJon]

OP: Yes this clicking is Normal because you overwound it, and you are getting tactile feedback from the protection mechanism!

A. Do not worry
B. Stop your manual winding for the next 48 hours !!!

I did this when I was trying to investigate how many winds it would take to fully wind my Cal. 3135 Rolex (same movement as yours). I freaked out, thinking it was broken. Even my AD wanted to send it to RSC. But the good folks here at TRF calmed me one.

All is well !

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by SolanNo1

All of the above is well and good, folks.

But.....my original question is......is clicking normal?

Yes!

[SolanNo1]

Thanks, Jon and Rob. That's what I wanted to hear.

Appreciate everybody's input.

[HRFdez]

Actually it was answered in post #2.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SolanNo1

Thanks for your responses expy and thatguy.

So, is the clicking sensation after the watch is fully wound normal? Can anyone with an 216570 confirm?

For all the Rolex oyster movements except the chronographs now they need 60 full turns, all others need 40 full crown turns clockwise only.Now in the mainspring barrel when the mainspring is fully wound a mechanism in the barrel just lets it slip thats the noise you are hearing so you cannot overwind. While on your wrist as the winding pendulum swings by gravity wrist movement its winding your watch.But when mainspring is fully wound the pendulum although still swinging the mechanism in the spring barrel just slips when mainspring is at full tension.

[HRFdez]

Originally Posted by padi56

For all the Rolex oyster movements except the chronographs now they need 60 full turns, all others need 40 full crown turns clockwise only.Now in the mainspring barrel when the mainspring is fully wound a mechanism in the barrel just lets it slip thats the noise you are hearing so you cannot overwind. While on your wrist as the winding pendulum swings by gravity wrist movement its winding your watch.But when mainspring is fully wound the pendulum although still swinging the mechanism in the spring barrel just slips when mainspring is at full tension.

Interesting! Do you know why 60? Sorry for the question, but this is the first time I have read 60 or 40 for that matter :-)

[padi56]

Originally Posted by HRFdez

Interesting! Do you know why 60? Sorry for the question, but this is the first time I have read 60 or 40 for that matter :-)

On watches like the Daytona it has a longer stronger mainspring its power reserve is around 72 hours.On movements like say the 3 series 3130,3135,3155/56,3185/6/7 power reserve is around 48 hours. And 40 full crown turns clockwise will fully wind the watch and that's what Rolex recommended at one time. But all stopped movements should be wound 20 min or plus times before putting on wrist.

[HRFdez]

Originally Posted by padi56

On watches like the Daytona it has a longer stronger mainspring its power reserve is around 72 hours.On movements like say the 3 series 3130,3135,3155/56,3185/6/7 power reserve is around 48 hours. And 40 full crown turns clockwise will fully wind the watch and that's what Rolex recommended at one time. But all stopped movements should be wound 20 min or plus times before putting on wrist.

Thanks!

[Zdenek]

Perfectly normal.

[melons]

I've experienced this itch my 216570, perfectly normal.