Submariner (16610) clasp won't sit center on wrist...

[rensupreme]

So i was wondering if there are any ways to center the clasp onto my wrist?

Currently it sits like this...



and if i attempt to set the clasp centered to my wrist, the watch ends up sitting like this on the other side... (too far to the top)



Anyone else have this problem? Suggestions?

[nickng]

Honestly, it doesn't matter where it sits. So long it doesnt end up on other people's wrist
A little off center is ok with me

[ec51]

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=187493

[Daytona-Dan]

I like to have the clasp slightly closer to the 6 side (so fewer links on the 6 side) because it puts the folding lip underneath the clasp central on the wrist which makes it more comfortable.

When looking at the clasp, it looks off centre but when you look underneath, you can see the folding part is dead centre:



PS: Not sure if it's the angle but your strap looks a little tight, can you still feel your fingers?

[Foiel]

Love the way it sits!! (like mine,actually mine is a bit more centered but not that much..Absolutely always toward right..)

In my opinion is even better to have it not centered..It gives more character to your watch and is a special characteristic of your Rolex (as long as it fits 100% comfortable like mine does with my wrist..Otherwise I agree in adjusting it)

Just enjoy it !!

[Lion]

Looks fine to me just the way it is.....so why does it have to be centered???

[HL65]

If you wear it that way on side of wrist it is easier to self regulate.

[cop414]

I never even noticed how mine sits on the underside, I just looked as I read this post and it's a little off center in the opposite direction of the OP. What matters to me is how the head sits and if it's comfortable. If the watch head is centered and the clasp underneath is comfortable then I wouldn't worry about it.

[Armyguy03]

Had the same issue, had to remove a permanent link from the six o'clock side, and move one removable link from the six side over to the twelve side. So its now 4 links on the six side and seven links on the twelve side. If you are hesitant to complete these steps on your own, go to a local AD. None would complete this process for me so removed the permanent link myself and then have a watchmaker reassemble as described. Once complete it moved the clasp over to the left, and centered.

[ec51]

Originally Posted by Armyguy03

Had the same issue, had to remove a permanent link from the six o'clock side, and move one removable link from the six side over to the twelve side. So its now 4 links on the six side and seven links on the twelve side. If you are hesitant to complete these steps on your own, go to a local AD. None would complete this process for me so removed the permanent link myself and then have a watchmaker reassemble as described. Once complete it moved the clasp over to the left, and centered.

You did the hard part by yourself, then had the watchmaker handle the easy stuff!!

[brandrea]

Add a link to 12 o clock position and take one out of 6 o clock, this should solve the problem. I also agree that the bracelet looks a bit too tight. You should be able to fit a pencil between the bracelet (bottom) and your wrist.

Cheers :)

[Billywiz]

I sympathize...I spend ages swapping links from side to side and adjusting the micro adjustment on the clasp...it trial and error buy perfectly possible. God luck.

[Armyguy03]

Originally Posted by ec51

You did the hard part by yourself, then had the watchmaker handle the easy stuff!!

Yes, EVERYONE is afraid to do it. I sent one to Rikki at Time Care before I realized I could do it myself. I even went to two ADs and they wouldn't do it. I guess it's not a common request. It's easy enough to complete myself so now it's no biggie.

[jimbones43]

Tell us how many links on each side.

[ec51]

Originally Posted by Armyguy03

Yes, EVERYONE is afraid to do it. I sent one to Rikki at Time Care before I realized I could do it myself. I even went to two ADs and they wouldn't do it. I guess it's not a common request. It's easy enough to complete myself so now it's no biggie.

Grab a good 1.6mm non-tapered screwdriver and low strength Loctite and you will be able to make link adjustments on your own as well.

[Armyguy03]

Originally Posted by ec51

Grab a good 1.6mm non-tapered screwdriver and low strength Loctite and you will be able to make link adjustments on your own as well.

I only took my SD to a local shop because I was traveling and didn't have any tools with me. The others I've done the full operation myself.

[ufboy73]

if all the removable links are already removed from the 6 side (since that is the side that needs it removed) then without removing a permanent link, thats the best it will sit (in your first pic)/

dont know your wrist size, but with the older models this can be an issue with smaller wrists if you want to center the clasp.

i actually sold a 14060 because of it. the 16610 was ok for me, as it has a slightly different clasp/extension arrangement.

[ec51]

Originally Posted by ufboy73

if all the removable links are already removed from the 6 side (since that is the side that needs it removed) then without removing a permanent link, thats the best it will sit (in your first pic)/

dont know your wrist size, but with the older models this can be an issue with smaller wrists if you want to center the clasp.

i actually sold a 14060 because of it. the 16610 was ok for me, as it has a slightly different clasp/extension arrangement.

It's not so much that the un-centered clasp which causes the comfort issue - but this clasp position with all removable links removed from the 6 side prevents the links from being able to properly pivot. See below for more detail:

http://www.minus4plus6.com/bracelet.htm

This positioning, on a smaller wrist size (6.5") will usually be uncomfortable and the watch will pull towards the 12 side.

[sportsmaven20]

What about sourcing a half link, then making the necessary micro-adjustments on the clasp?

[ec51]

Originally Posted by sportsmaven20

What about sourcing a half link, then making the necessary micro-adjustments on the clasp?

If you have an older style bracelet, you will need one link removed the 6 side (the link attached to the clasp is riveted on the older style bracelets). However, the new bracelets have a screw versus the rivet.

Explained in more detail from Munis4Plus6.com:

For smaller wristed wearers, rather than having a link permanently removed as in the photo set above, it is easy to move a removable link from the 6:00 o'clock side and put on the 12:00 o'clock side such that there are 4 links on one side, and five links on the other side. By having 4 links on the 6:00 o'clock side, the band does not cantilever against the folding component of the bracelet clasp causing the clasp to stick up. The clasp cover is not quite centered on the wrist, but the clasp hinge is (underside of the band) allowing the entire clasp to lie flat.For smaller wristed wearers, rather than having a link permanently removed as in the photo set above, it is easy to move a removable link from the 6:00 o'clock side and put on the 12:00 o'clock side such that there are 4 links on one side, and five links on the other side. By having 4 links on the 6:00 o'clock side, the band does not cantilever against the folding component of the bracelet clasp causing the clasp to stick up. The clasp cover is not quite centered on the wrist, but the clasp hinge is (underside of the band) allowing the entire clasp to lie flat.

[NGB185]

I disagree with all the "it doesn't matter, don't worry about it" posts.

It does matter. You're wearing a fine watch from a luxury brand that cost you several thousand dollars. It may be your only fine timepiece or maybe it's your beater, but you should be physically comfortable and aesthetically pleased as well.

Go to an AD or RSC as many times as you like and swap links around until you are comfortable and happy with the feel and look of your bracelet. I recently did the same thing with my Daytona and went to the Wempe Rolex boutique in NYC. The watchmaker was more than understanding and moved the link for me on the spot. He said if I wasn't happy he would move it again and again. He was a true professional and represented Rolex the way it should be.

So IMO, if it bothers you in any way, go get it fixed. You should be totally happy with the piece given the investment you have made and your choice to wear a $5k Rolex and not a $50 Timex.

[Friedl41]

I wear 4 (6 o'clock side) and 6 links on the other - clasp not centered, but comfortable and makes the watch sit perfect on my arm, also when i twist the arm to see what time it is.

Trial and error. First it bothered me... Now i accted it

[rensupreme]

I mean it doesn't bother me that much... but the case does have a tendency to lean towards 12 o clock side.

The 6 o clock side of the bracelet already ran out of screw down links to remove.
It's just that I had a 214270 explorer before with the new style bracelet and i could get the case and the clasp to sit perfectly centered on both sides of my wrist.

Also, the watch was kinda tight since my wrist swollen up a little bit from a hot day. Once again the easy link on the new style bracelet would have came in handy here... Oh well... i can live with it.. really don't wanna take a hammer to the permanent links. Thank you all!

[Lion]

Glad you have come to your senses as where the clasp sits is not really important if the watch feels comfortable on your wrist. For those who mess around to get it 'Perfect'.....whatever floats your boat!!! He$$ it's only a watch.....

Take it easy.....Leo

[Glidelock]

Originally Posted by rensupreme

So i was wondering if there are any ways to center the clasp onto my wrist?

Currently it sits like this...



and if i attempt to set the clasp centered to my wrist, the watch ends up sitting like this on the other side... (too far to the top)



Anyone else have this problem? Suggestions?

Hideous....just hideous is say! First off, don't even try resolving this on your own, as it's really quite difficult to do without destroying at least 3 or 4 Oyster bracelets before you get the hang of it.

That said, you should leave it to a professional Size..er...uhm...ologist yeah Sizemologist that's it...that's the professional term for what people call me!

Anyway...I just love doing these kind of adjustmens so much that I do them for free! Uh, yeah...that's right just send it to me along with box and papers of course, so as I can verify that it's a completely original watch. And just know in your heart that I will take great care of it!

In all seriousness, Play around with different configurations until you find one that works for you, but I've never had a Rolex that the watch head wasn't riding slightly toward the wrist bone and the clasp wasn't slightly un-centered on. Just make it so it's comfortable to you!

[exxondus]

U prob need to remove a perm link. This is one of the major reasons why i went SubC which has the new bracelet :D

[ec51]

Originally Posted by Glidelock

Hideous....just hideous is say! First off, don't even try resolving this on your own, as it's really quite difficult to do without destroying at least 3 or 4 Oyster bracelets before you get the hang of it.

That said, you should leave it to a professional Size..er...uhm...ologist yeah Sizemologist that's it...that's the professional term for what people call me!

Anyway...I just love doing these kind of adjustmens so much that I do them for free! Uh, yeah...that's right just send it to me along with box and papers of course, so as I can verify that it's a completely original watch. And just know in your heart that I will take great care of it!

In all seriousness, Play around with different configurations until you find one that works for you, but I've never had a Rolex that the watch head wasn't riding slightly toward the wrist bone and the clasp wasn't slightly un-centered on. Just make it so it's comfortable to you!

Not difficult at all. Nor did I destroy my bracelet.

[Glidelock]

Originally Posted by ec51

Not difficult at all. Nor did I destroy my bracelet.

Have to think that perhaps you didn't read my entire post, as it was cleat that I was joking with the OP that he should just send his watch, box and papers to me!

[DCheeta]

Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one with OCD regarding the bracelet link configuration! In my trial and error, I actually found that I'm more comfortable with the clasp off-center, just the way the OP shows his.

[gr33n]

Rensupreme: I have a small wrist, and had the same problem on my 16610LV.
I just turned the bracelet upside down: 6 at 12 and 12 at 6, and now it is centered. You just need a few days to get used to the new way to close it.