Need help identifying Submariner bezel insert

[Tudor66]

I am looking for some help identifying an old/faded submariner bezel.

I believe this part is bezel insert that would fit any 1680/5512/5513/7928 watch. However, as a test I tried to set it on top of my existing bezel insert on my 1680 submariner from 1977, but it doesn't fit all the down flush on my existing bezel. I believe this means that it would not fit if I removed my existing bezel insert and attempted to install this faded one.

My 1680 was restored by Rolex USA approx 5 years ago, with a new crystal, hands, etc...

The other item that doesn't add up is that the pearl dot seems larger than the ones I've seen on vintage 7928's, etc...

I would appreciate any advice as to what I have here...This bezel has a nice even fade on it...

[greekbum]

Wrong insert this is for sapphire crystal version or modern.

[Tudor66]

Originally Posted by greekbum

Wrong insert this is for sapphire crystal version or modern.

Thanks for the response. I agree that the pearl dot looks like the ones I've seen on 16800's bezel inserts, but here is the puzzling aspect that I forgot to mention. I compared this bezel insert to my friend's loose Submariner 16800 bezel, my faded one is definitely 2 mm smaller and felt thinner than the 16800 bezel.

I will do more research on this...

thanks,

Al

[Vincent65]

newer and very dirty one - that's all hideous dna and bacterial scum on the back

[Michael M.]

Yep, newer insert for a sapphire model. Probably came on a 16800 or 16610 originally.

[watchcrank]

Plus measurement can be skewed by wear, dirt & how flat the insert is. the back as well as pearl surround is the give a way on these. Note the "step" on the back that is not same as a 1680/5513 etc. And not saying it won't fit as many do depending on wear of the bezel itself and the insert. I have seen all sorts of things that fit or made to fit but still not correct :-) regards, M

[katana]

You must have insert number-315-5513-1 Outside 36.55 mm - Inside-30.3 mm It fits both 5513 also 1680.

[Mark020]

I doubt it.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Tudor66

Thanks for the response. I agree that the pearl dot looks like the ones I've seen on 16800's bezel inserts, but here is the puzzling aspect that I forgot to mention. I compared this bezel insert to my friend's loose Submariner 16800 bezel, my faded one is definitely 2 mm smaller and felt thinner than the 16800 bezel.

I will do more research on this...

thanks,

Al

the 14060 and the SD inserts have a smaller inside diameter than the Sub Dates

[Tudor66]

Originally Posted by Tools

the 14060 and the SD inserts have a smaller inside diameter than the Sub Dates

Gentlemen, I think this may be the answer. I need to find a 14060 to compare...

thanks,

Al

[John in MA]

Definitely for a sapphire sub. You can actually see the teeth outline from the bezel ring on the back side image.

[scottb2]

+1 John

[Tudor66]

You guys are the best, item has been identified (14060/m) with the help of TRF...
Good thing I didn't try installing it on my 1680...!

thanks,

Tudor66