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unknown · 27 September 2013, 02:13 AM

Panerai made 3 special watches for what they call the Paneristi.

Long ago the 195, than the 360 and now the 532.

All 3 of them are or were VERY hard to get. Some say you had to be selected.
The 532 won't probably be another story. Allocated via the Paneristi website or being a well know Panerai client will probably be the way to get one.
I can't imagine John Doe will walk into a boutique or AD and be able to buy the 532

The 195 abd 360 were immense popular, the 532 will follow the same path without question

That aside, which one would you prefer ?
The 195 and 360 are almost the same ( black 44 mm Luminor) or would you prefer to have the new 1940 model ?

195

360

532

The movement is a no-brainer. The 532 has the nice inhouse P3000 while the other 2 had a simple Unitas

Travelller · 27 September 2013, 03:59 AM

195. I'll admit that the 532 has some nice traits. DLC for example is a much better finish compared to PVD...

360's legendary but I like Marinas best (secs subdial).

P.s. frankly, getting a little tired of all these 6154 wannabes...

iLLGT2 · 27 September 2013, 04:45 AM

Panerai is done to me

I have a 360, it hasn't seen daylight in over 6 months, goes for the rest of my Panerais too except for 372 (best pam)

They just exhausted their brand, principles, etc…

s14roller · 27 September 2013, 05:16 AM

Along with Martin's comments, if I take a look at these 3 hard to get watches for their hardcore fans, I really don't see a huge difference between these and the base watches...

195 looks just like the 005 I had, but in a different finish. Never owned a rad but the 532 looks kinda cool.

Friedl41 · 27 September 2013, 06:14 AM

For how much are the 360 going for? I just fell in love ...

Explorertwo · 27 September 2013, 06:24 AM

360, just love the look...

dysondiver · 27 September 2013, 06:43 AM

360 ,,, just

kilyung · 27 September 2013, 07:23 AM

195 with my name on the case back.

Cru Jones · 27 September 2013, 07:47 AM

Gotta be the 360, since 195 is a coated 005.

Looking at the three together, it truly baffles me why OP didn't out the logo on the 532. Makes zero sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelller

195. I'll admit that the 532 has some nice traits. DLC for example is a much better finish compared to PVD...

I'm not sure what you mean, Serge, as DLC is a type of PVD. Is it that the 195's PVD coating isn't of DLC quality?

mborkow · 27 September 2013, 09:38 AM

Personally, I think the watch they made for the die hard fans is the 372.

Travelller · 27 September 2013, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

...DLC is a type of PVD...

Yes, you're quite correct; Diamond-Like Coating is also applied using the "PVD process", just like Titanium Aluminum Nitride, a current-day material associated with PVD. DLC is known for its "high surface hardness".

Based on the time the 195 came out, I'm assuming it's using older materials (for example, Titanium Nitride). This "assumption" is also based on a good friend of mine's experience with his 5218-210... . Perhaps it's also the application process that has improved... sorry, I'm not an expert - but I will bet on DLC over TIN...

p.s. Here's some DLC for ya... the tip of my rockstead TEI...

DONGinsler · 27 September 2013, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Gotta be the 360, since 195 is a coated 005

Actually the 005 is an un-coated 195

195 was produced before the 005

Just nit picking :)

DON

Travelller · 27 September 2013, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iLLGT2

Panerai is done to me ... I have a 360, it hasn't seen daylight in over 6 months...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Friedl41

For how much are the 360 going for? I just fell in love ...

A few PMs, something like $20K and both of your first-world problems are solved...

kilyung · 27 September 2013, 10:12 AM

The 195 is indeed TiN PVD

Friedl41 · 27 September 2013, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelller

A few PMs, something like $20K and both of your first-world problems are solved...

for 20k .... i just fell out off love

I am happy with my 372 & 210 ,,, for the moment ,,, also I like a 390 one day ,,, i need ... NEED a watch for 24/24 straps ,,, sorry.

joleel7 · 28 September 2013, 12:12 AM

I take ALL if I can

but until then I will settle for 360

iLLGT2 · 28 September 2013, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mborkow

Personally, I think the watch they made for the die hard fans is the 372.

BOOM, agreed!!!!!!!

And the hardcore fans buy older vintage models, and base pieces….

htc8p · 28 September 2013, 04:55 PM

i like the 360 then the 195

the 532 looks like it has no heritage

jvo300 · 28 September 2013, 09:54 PM

I say the 360. Also, I have a feeling that the 532 will not be a popular model.

Survivor · 29 September 2013, 02:33 AM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

43builder · 29 September 2013, 02:55 AM

532 all the way!

nishant · 29 September 2013, 03:19 AM

I like em all .. Would settle for any of the 3 but won't buy a cent above MSRP ! The first two have nothing worth more than 5K and the 532 is pretty expensive for what it offers .. If it were in Ceramic, one could still make a case !!! .. a 45 mm 292 can bring in all you need for half the price IMO.

unknown · 29 September 2013, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant

I like em all .. Would settle for any of the 3 but won't buy a cent above MSRP ! The first two have nothing worth more than 5K and the 532 is pretty expensive for what it offers .. If it were in Ceramic, one could still make a case !!! .. a 45 mm 292 can bring in all you need for half the price IMO.

Half ?
More or less euro 7k for a 292 and about 9k for the 532.

And the 532 has a Nice inhouse p3ooo, the 292 a cheap unitas

mfer · 29 September 2013, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

Half ?
More or less euro 7k for a 292 and about 9k for the 532.

And the 532 has a Nice inhouse p3ooo, the 292 a cheap unitas

I had more respect for you until that cheap Unitas comment.

I'll take the 6497 over their less than proven in house....

nishant · 29 September 2013, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

Half ?
More or less euro 7k for a 292 and about 9k for the 532.

And the 532 has a Nice inhouse p3ooo, the 292 a cheap unitas

Who would ever pay retail for a watch ? ;)

unknown · 29 September 2013, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

I had more respect for you until that cheap Unitas comment.

I'll take the 6497 over their less than proven in house....

Lol

You know what I mean

I also have panerai with a 'cheap' unitas so nothing wrong with that. I even have a 318 with a cheap completely unfinished unitas

But if an inhouse p3000 costs only 2 k more I think it is a very acceptable price for a non mass produced movement.
IWC doubles the price if you can choose between an inhouse chrono or a valjoux 7750

unknown · 29 September 2013, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant

Who would ever pay retail for a watch ? ;)

Depends on the watch

nishant · 29 September 2013, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

Depends on the watch

532 will go for retail. At least 13K USD ..
292 is 9K USD but can be had for 6.9K new or 6K mint. Easily half or a little more.

The Lack of in house movement is more than made up by the matte ceramic case as opposed to PVD .. And the price point.

mfer · 29 September 2013, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown

Lol

You know what I mean

I also have panerai with a 'cheap' unitas so nothing wrong with that. I even have a 318 with a cheap completely unfinished unitas

But if an inhouse p3000 costs only 2 k more I think it is a very acceptable price for a non mass produced movement.
IWC doubles the price if you can choose between an inhouse chrono or a valjoux 7750

If offered a 249 and a 448, assuming I loved both equally, I'd pick the 249 in a sec with heavy preference for the 6497.

Truthfully, I like the dial more on the 448 but would still pick the 249.

jvo300 · 29 September 2013, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nishant

...The first two have nothing worth more than 5K and the 532 is pretty expensive for what it offers .. If it were in Ceramic, one could still make a case !!! .. a 45 mm 292 can bring in all you need for half the price IMO.

Couldn't agree more.

27 September 2013, 02:13 AM	#1
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,872	the 3 Panerai made for their die hard fans Panerai made 3 special watches for what they call the Paneristi. Long ago the 195, than the 360 and now the 532. All 3 of them are or were VERY hard to get. Some say you had to be selected. The 532 won't probably be another story. Allocated via the Paneristi website or being a well know Panerai client will probably be the way to get one. I can't imagine John Doe will walk into a boutique or AD and be able to buy the 532 The 195 abd 360 were immense popular, the 532 will follow the same path without question That aside, which one would you prefer ? The 195 and 360 are almost the same ( black 44 mm Luminor) or would you prefer to have the new 1940 model ? 195 360 532 The movement is a no-brainer. The 532 has the nice inhouse P3000 while the other 2 had a simple Unitas __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

27 September 2013, 03:59 AM	#2
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27 September 2013, 06:14 AM	#5
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43builder "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Patrick Location: Cleveland/NoVA Watch: 116528 YG Daytona Posts: 808	532 all the way! __________________ Patrick Lewis Rolex Daytona 18K YG (M97 Serial) Rolex SS DAYTONA (On Order...it'll be a while) Omega Vintage 1970's 617 Movement

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27 September 2013, 04:45 AM	#3
iLLGT2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Martin Location: NY And FLA Watch: AP ROO Blue Scuba Posts: 2,695	Panerai is done to me I have a 360, it hasn't seen daylight in over 6 months, goes for the rest of my Panerais too except for 372 (best pam) They just exhausted their brand, principles, etc…

27 September 2013, 05:16 AM	#4
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	Along with Martin's comments, if I take a look at these 3 hard to get watches for their hardcore fans, I really don't see a huge difference between these and the base watches... 195 looks just like the 005 I had, but in a different finish. Never owned a rad but the 532 looks kinda cool.

27 September 2013, 06:24 AM	#6
Explorertwo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Tom Location: Lowlands Watch: White 'n Black Posts: 641	360, just love the look...

27 September 2013, 06:43 AM	#7
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	360 ,,, just

27 September 2013, 07:23 AM	#8
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	195 with my name on the case back.

27 September 2013, 09:38 AM	#10
mborkow "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: san francisco Watch: gmt2c pam372 Posts: 842	Personally, I think the watch they made for the die hard fans is the 372.

27 September 2013, 10:12 AM	#14
kilyung 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,940	The 195 is indeed TiN PVD

28 September 2013, 12:12 AM	#16
joleel7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Joey Location: Canada Watch: DSSD, PAM, BALL Posts: 869	I take ALL if I can but until then I will settle for 360

28 September 2013, 04:55 PM	#18
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,472	i like the 360 then the 195 the 532 looks like it has no heritage

28 September 2013, 09:54 PM	#19
jvo300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,897	I say the 360. Also, I have a feeling that the 532 will not be a popular model.

29 September 2013, 02:33 AM	#20
Survivor Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Thousand Oaks Watch: DSSD Posts: 1,017	Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

29 September 2013, 03:19 AM	#22
nishant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Nishant T. Location: DC Area Watch: JLC NS Chrono GMT Posts: 779	I like em all .. Would settle for any of the 3 but won't buy a cent above MSRP ! The first two have nothing worth more than 5K and the 532 is pretty expensive for what it offers .. If it were in Ceramic, one could still make a case !!! .. a 45 mm 292 can bring in all you need for half the price IMO.

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