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brandog · 21 December 2013, 01:55 AM

I have a new SUBC which is running about +6/+7 seconds fast a day. I realize its on the fence of COSC certifications but I would ideally like to be around +/-2/3 seconds a day. My $2,500 Omega kept better time then this watch which bothers me. So I guess my question is should I send my Sub in for regulation? It's brand new so im assuming this servicing would be free correct? Also, how long does this process usually take? I live in New York

CDNWatchNut · 21 December 2013, 02:05 AM

I would suggest wear it for a few months, try different resting positions at night which might help with a second maybe two less gain per day. See how it performs longer term before having it opened up.
I would think RSC on 5th could turn it around within a few days, if not while you wait, depending on how busy they are.

brandog · 21 December 2013, 02:11 AM

I've tried a few resting positions, didn't seem to help. I've only been wearing the watch for about a month so maybe it needs to break in a little. Is opening the watch something you want to avoid?

Tools · 21 December 2013, 02:12 AM

COSC numbers are testing criteria, not what you should expect.

It may slow down by a second after a couple of months, but that still would not be very good timekeeping. Stop by the NYC RSC and they should regulate it while you wait - free.

CDNWatchNut · 21 December 2013, 02:15 AM

I think if you're taking it to RSC, you're in good hands and would have zero worries. I just thought you may have just worn it for a day or two, so was suggesting a longer term trial to see how it's timing. I think a month is a good enough indicator, so I wouldn't hesitate to take it as you'll be even happier with it.

brandog · 21 December 2013, 02:19 AM

Okay, thanks for the help gents.

padi56 · 21 December 2013, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by brandog

I have a new SUBC which is running about +6/+7 seconds fast a day. I realize its on the fence of COSC certifications but I would ideally like to be around +/-2/3 seconds a day. My $2,500 Omega kept better time then this watch which bothers me. So I guess my question is should I send my Sub in for regulation? It's brand new so im assuming this servicing would be free correct? Also, how long does this process usually take? I live in New York

Have to ever given your watch a full manual wind if not do so 40 full crown turns clockwise only.What are your testing methods how long is watch worn each day what are your resting positions while off wrist.Most movements take a little time to settle into your wearing habits so don't be in a big hurry to get back off for a few seconds.Try this for 5 days after a full manual wind, sync watch with a reliable source for this test a quartz watch will do that's accurate enough.After sync wear your watch as normal but for 8 hours plus a day.Check time once daily with same setting source write down the loss or gain.Do this for 5 complete days then average out the loss or gain over the 5 days for a more accurate result.Now regulation is a very simple task takes 30 minutes tops,but if watch goes back to Rolex expect a 2-4 week wait or longer before you get watch back.And just say if its timed to say +2 seconds on the timing machine that don't always mean it will perform exactly the same on your wrist.

jvo300 · 21 December 2013, 02:59 AM

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your mechanical watch is operating fine. For greatest consistency and precision you should consider a quartz movement.

luvsub · 21 December 2013, 03:42 AM

It will be better keep it with 5 seconds range. I would regulate it.

nagano2125 · 21 December 2013, 03:46 AM

Everyone says rest it differently at night, but why is it I hear more and more that this does not work with newer watches. I've tried it myself as well as have read many other forum members doing so with little change... On new pieces only.

CDNWatchNut · 21 December 2013, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nagano2125

Everyone says rest it differently at night, but why is it I hear more and more that this does not work with newer watches. I've tried it myself as well as have read many other forum members doing so with little change... On new pieces only.

I agree, the newer watches don't seem to exhibit as much positional variation. There is still a little bit there though.

Lion · 21 December 2013, 04:10 AM

I would do what padi56 suggests before running over to your nearest RSC. Of course if you are not "Happy" then by all means go get it regulated at RSC in New York City since you are so close. But think about it, first of all it's a mechanical watch which does not reset the time each day to the Atomic clock in Colorado. Secondly even if it is +7 to +8 seconds fast a day that is still more than 99.9___% accurate.....

I'd say "Chill" over the Holidays and just enjoy your watch you can always get it 'Regulated Down the Road'. Or things could be worse...you could be like me whose watch never stays in regulation. For some weird reason(it runs in our family, my older brother and my deceased Dad)my body throws mechanical watches as well as watches with batteries out of any type of regulation. The time on my Rolex can be 30 to 40 seconds fast one day and then a few days later be running a minute slow. It's all over the place and watches with batteries will just stop working...I can replace the battery and a week or two later it quits working again. The only watch I can wear which stays in regulation is my Casio G-Shock which stores energy by any light source and resets the time each day!!!

It's all good...take care.....Leo

nagano2125 · 21 December 2013, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

I would do what padi56 suggests before running over to your nearest RSC. Of course if you are not "Happy" then by all means go get it regulated at RSC in New York City since you are so close. But think about it, first of all it's a mechanical watch which does not reset the time each day to the Atomic clock in Colorado. Secondly even if it is +7 to +8 seconds fast a day that is still more than 99.9___% accurate.....

I'd say "Chill" over the Holidays and just enjoy your watch you can always get it 'Regulated Down the Road'. Or things could be worse...you could be like me whose watch never stays in regulation. For some weird reason(it runs in our family, my older brother and my deceased Dad)my body throws mechanical watches as well as watches with batteries out of any type of regulation. The time on my Rolex can be 30 to 40 seconds fast one day and then a few days later be running a minute slow. It's all over the place and watches with batteries will just stop working...I can replace the battery and a week or two later it quits working again. The only watch I can wear which stays in regulation is my Casio G-Shock which stores energy by any light source and resets the time each day!!!

It's all good...take care.....Leo

Kinda in the same boat myself... My somewhat new watch has at most lost -10 sec a day. And one day will be -6 the next -10 with little change in what I am physically doing. I've been told that really what I am doing shouldn't effect the watch at all but who knows. Probably will be sending mine in for a reg. after the holidays. When it was more consistent I was less worried, now not sure why it has some variation.

SLS · 21 December 2013, 04:33 AM

Consistency is what you want, erratic gains or loses are when you should become concerned.

Annan · 21 December 2013, 04:35 AM

Had the same issue with my EXP II. It was +7s/day. I had it regulated to +1s/day and could not be happier. Resting positions had zero impact.

Laszlo · 21 December 2013, 04:43 AM

Mine did the same thing for the first few weeks. It was actually +15. But it has settled down and is within spec now. Give it a little more time if it's a new piece.

Racerdj · 21 December 2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by brandog

I have a new SUBC which is running about +6/+7 seconds fast a day. I realize its on the fence of COSC certifications but I would ideally like to be around +/-2/3 seconds a day. My $2,500 Omega kept better time then this watch which bothers me. So I guess my question is should I send my Sub in for regulation? It's brand new so im assuming this servicing would be free correct? Also, how long does this process usually take? I live in New York

IMO have it regulated and expect 3-4 weeks. I'm glad I did mine!

phils · 21 December 2013, 08:36 AM

I wouldn't yet. Leave it crown up at night. It may lose a couple of seconds.
Once I had one similar and the AD said they could improve that. When I got it back after after 2-3 weeks there was little change and after three years had to have a service.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

FTX I · 21 December 2013, 08:57 AM

Had the same issue with my Sub-C. +10 for 2 or 3 months and I decided to wait. Now 6 months later 0.5 a day.

21 December 2013, 01:55 AM	#1
brandog Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: New York Posts: 370	Worth Regulating? I have a new SUBC which is running about +6/+7 seconds fast a day. I realize its on the fence of COSC certifications but I would ideally like to be around +/-2/3 seconds a day. My $2,500 Omega kept better time then this watch which bothers me. So I guess my question is should I send my Sub in for regulation? It's brand new so im assuming this servicing would be free correct? Also, how long does this process usually take? I live in New York

21 December 2013, 02:12 AM	#4
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	COSC numbers are testing criteria, not what you should expect. It may slow down by a second after a couple of months, but that still would not be very good timekeeping. Stop by the NYC RSC and they should regulate it while you wait - free. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

21 December 2013, 04:10 AM	#12
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	I would do what padi56 suggests before running over to your nearest RSC. Of course if you are not "Happy" then by all means go get it regulated at RSC in New York City since you are so close. But think about it, first of all it's a mechanical watch which does not reset the time each day to the Atomic clock in Colorado. Secondly even if it is +7 to +8 seconds fast a day that is still more than 99.9___% accurate..... I'd say "Chill" over the Holidays and just enjoy your watch you can always get it 'Regulated Down the Road'. Or things could be worse...you could be like me whose watch never stays in regulation. For some weird reason(it runs in our family, my older brother and my deceased Dad)my body throws mechanical watches as well as watches with batteries out of any type of regulation. The time on my Rolex can be 30 to 40 seconds fast one day and then a few days later be running a minute slow. It's all over the place and watches with batteries will just stop working...I can replace the battery and a week or two later it quits working again. The only watch I can wear which stays in regulation is my Casio G-Shock which stores energy by any light source and resets the time each day!!! It's all good...take care.....Leo __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

21 December 2013, 04:33 AM	#14
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Consistency is what you want, erratic gains or loses are when you should become concerned. __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

21 December 2013, 04:35 AM	#15
Annan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: Arizona, USA Watch: 116233 Posts: 3,180	Had the same issue with my EXP II. It was +7s/day. I had it regulated to +1s/day and could not be happier. Resting positions had zero impact. __________________ *so many Rolexes.....so little time*

21 December 2013, 02:05 AM	#2
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	I would suggest wear it for a few months, try different resting positions at night which might help with a second maybe two less gain per day. See how it performs longer term before having it opened up. I would think RSC on 5th could turn it around within a few days, if not while you wait, depending on how busy they are.

21 December 2013, 02:11 AM	#3
brandog Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: New York Posts: 370	I've tried a few resting positions, didn't seem to help. I've only been wearing the watch for about a month so maybe it needs to break in a little. Is opening the watch something you want to avoid?

21 December 2013, 02:15 AM	#5
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	I think if you're taking it to RSC, you're in good hands and would have zero worries. I just thought you may have just worn it for a day or two, so was suggesting a longer term trial to see how it's timing. I think a month is a good enough indicator, so I wouldn't hesitate to take it as you'll be even happier with it.

21 December 2013, 02:19 AM	#6
brandog Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: New York Posts: 370	Okay, thanks for the help gents.

21 December 2013, 02:59 AM	#8
jvo300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,897	If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your mechanical watch is operating fine. For greatest consistency and precision you should consider a quartz movement.

21 December 2013, 03:42 AM	#9
luvsub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SF, south bay Posts: 5,222	It will be better keep it with 5 seconds range. I would regulate it.

21 December 2013, 03:46 AM	#10
nagano2125 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Crazytown Posts: 228	Everyone says rest it differently at night, but why is it I hear more and more that this does not work with newer watches. I've tried it myself as well as have read many other forum members doing so with little change... On new pieces only.

21 December 2013, 04:43 AM	#16
Laszlo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,868	Mine did the same thing for the first few weeks. It was actually +15. But it has settled down and is within spec now. Give it a little more time if it's a new piece. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

21 December 2013, 08:36 AM	#18
phils "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: philip Location: missouri Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 1,094	I wouldn't yet. Leave it crown up at night. It may lose a couple of seconds. Once I had one similar and the AD said they could improve that. When I got it back after after 2-3 weeks there was little change and after three years had to have a service. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

21 December 2013, 08:57 AM	#19
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Had the same issue with my Sub-C. +10 for 2 or 3 months and I decided to wait. Now 6 months later 0.5 a day.

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