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Jetkopite · 26 February 2014, 11:23 PM

Hey guys,

I have been looking for a birth year (1975) GMT master 1675 and have have been offered one for around $5900 USD which looks in great condition apart from the hands(Gmt and second hand) which need to be replaced. Does anyone know how much it would cost to find matching patina hands and also what do you the vintage experts think of this deal??

Apparently the watch has been in the family for years and been passed to down from a guys father in Spain.

Ive attached some pics for you guys to inspect.. look forward to your opinions on this matter.

Andy

linesiders · 26 February 2014, 11:43 PM

I think for your price range you can do better waiting it out. Finding hands will not be a problem (though the right patina may be difficult), but add service and a new set of hands and you are over 7K. You likely have tritium in the movement.

From 6K or 7K even you should be able to find a more appropriate example waiting and searching (and the associated feel of the chase)

Vincent65 · 26 February 2014, 11:45 PM

6 grand is too much for that, IMO

watchcrank · 27 February 2014, 01:24 AM

Even as these are climbing in price for good examples I agree with above. Keep looking for a really fine example at that range and with box and papers not out of reach imho. M

Jetkopite · 27 February 2014, 01:29 AM

Thanks guys I was only thinking about this one as its my birth year 1975 but the thought of having to find new hands to put on it is putting me off a little. It only comes with box and no papers.

Jetkopite · 27 February 2014, 01:34 AM

Just out of curiosity what would such a watch in that condition go for price wise that would be acceptable if I can drop the $5900???

datejust24 · 27 February 2014, 01:48 AM

$4.5 - $5k

TimeOnHand · 28 February 2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by datejust24

$4.5 - $5k

southtexas · 27 February 2014, 02:06 AM

You don't necessarily need to replace the hands. You could find an experienced guy to replace the missing tritium, dyed to match the current patina.

CrownMe · 27 February 2014, 02:17 AM

Try to get it for 5K or less

Cc1966 · 27 February 2014, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownMe

Try to get it for 5K or less

My thoughts exactly.

CrownMe · 27 February 2014, 03:15 AM

Jacek is selling a killer 1675 right now. It's amazing. Great patina

Frosty · 27 February 2014, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownMe

Jacek is selling a killer 1675 right now. It's amazing. Great patina

StanGMT · 27 February 2014, 05:01 AM

Like Linesiders, I would be concerned about that Tritium that's missing from the GMT and second hands - about how it became dislodged and where it went to. It is quite brittle and can powder, so some of it might have found its way into the movement at some stage. Certainly I wouldn't want to pay that price for something that might be suspect.

Stan.

southtexas · 27 February 2014, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by StanGMT

Like Linesiders, I would be concerned about that Tritium that's missing from the GMT and second hands - about how it became dislodged and where it went to. It is quite brittle and can powder, so some of it might have found its way into the movement at some stage. Certainly I wouldn't want to pay that price for something that might be suspect.

Stan.

Good point.

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Jetkopite · 27 February 2014, 05:15 AM

Stan thats a very good point but I have seen many vintage GMT's 1675 with tritium missing on the hands etc and thought this was normal with these old watches??? I always wondered where it went..

springer · 28 February 2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetkopite

Stan thats a very good point but I have seen many vintage GMT's 1675 with tritium missing on the hands etc and thought this was normal with these old watches??? I always wondered where it went..

Many do have missing tritium and many more have had it repaired, stabilized, relumed or whatever you choose to call it. It is normal for it to wear out and not uncommon to see it fall out or crack excessively. I had some fall out once after a hand was was removed from the dial during a service. The lume on vintage hands is very fragile.

applebook · 27 February 2014, 05:16 AM

Far too much. It's heavily buffed (poorly too), and that bracelet looks like it's a fake with perhaps a genuine clasp attached?

TimeOnHand · 28 February 2014, 09:04 AM

I can look for one here in Hk for you mate.

RC2 · 1 March 2014, 01:43 PM

Honestly get the best example you can find. The serial number business is a gues-estimate for the most part.

Jetkopite · 1 March 2014, 11:47 PM

Hey guys here is more pictures of the watch I have been thinking about.. I think I can get the price down to $5500 what do you think is that still high?? Also the cyclops magnification isnt very strong, does it look wrong to you guys?

The guy selling it said to me its been with same family from day one this watch but who knows whats true or not?? ha.

TimeToGo · 2 March 2014, 12:04 AM

Do you have other pictures of the bracelet/clasp?

I would prefer to see better pictures to hold my comment on it.

Vincent65 · 2 March 2014, 12:54 AM

Seems like you're very keen on this one. I wouldn't buy it. IMHO, $5.5K is still a lot, as you need to get the hands repaired or replaced, unless you like that look...

Jetkopite · 2 March 2014, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

Seems like you're very keen on this one. I wouldn't buy it. IMHO, $5.5K is still a lot, as you need to get the hands repaired or replaced, unless you like that look...

Only reason I am still thinking about it is because its a 1975 model which is my birth year, I think I will pass and keep looking for that right one...

Vincent65 · 2 March 2014, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetkopite

Only reason I am still thinking about it is because its a 1975 model which is my birth year, I think I will pass and keep looking for that right one...

Yeah, forget the coincidental numbers and get a good example!

Jetkopite · 2 March 2014, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

Yeah, forget the coincidental numbers and get a good example!

I agree but gonna have to be abit patient till that awesome ones along...

Vincent65 · 2 March 2014, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetkopite

I agree but gonna have to be abit patient till that awesome ones along...

that's the name of the game with vintage, unless you get very lucky really quickly - take your time

southtexas · 2 March 2014, 01:28 AM

Still high

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TimeToGo · 2 March 2014, 02:30 AM

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Would still like to see pictures of the bracelet, if you are able to get them...

Jetkopite · 2 March 2014, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo

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Would still like to see pictures of the bracelet, if you are able to get them...

Unfortunately these are the only pics I have.. Do you think its a fake bracelet??

26 February 2014, 11:23 PM	#1
Jetkopite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: Dubai Watch: 5131R,6263,5712T Posts: 1,559	Expert advise needed for a GMT Master 1675. Hey guys, I have been looking for a birth year (1975) GMT master 1675 and have have been offered one for around $5900 USD which looks in great condition apart from the hands(Gmt and second hand) which need to be replaced. Does anyone know how much it would cost to find matching patina hands and also what do you the vintage experts think of this deal?? Apparently the watch has been in the family for years and been passed to down from a guys father in Spain. Ive attached some pics for you guys to inspect.. look forward to your opinions on this matter. Andy Attached Images

26 February 2014, 11:43 PM	#2
linesiders 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,503	I think for your price range you can do better waiting it out. Finding hands will not be a problem (though the right patina may be difficult), but add service and a new set of hands and you are over 7K. You likely have tritium in the movement. From 6K or 7K even you should be able to find a more appropriate example waiting and searching (and the associated feel of the chase) __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

27 February 2014, 02:06 AM	#9
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,764	You don't necessarily need to replace the hands. You could find an experienced guy to replace the missing tritium, dyed to match the current patina. __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

27 February 2014, 05:16 AM	#18
applebook "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 1,918	Far too much. It's heavily buffed (poorly too), and that bracelet looks like it's a fake with perhaps a genuine clasp attached? __________________

28 February 2014, 09:04 AM	#19
TimeOnHand "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Hong Kong Watch: Rolex Air-King Posts: 4,468	I can look for one here in Hk for you mate. __________________ Instagram: timeonhand1010

26 February 2014, 11:45 PM	#3
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	6 grand is too much for that, IMO

27 February 2014, 01:24 AM	#4
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,664	Even as these are climbing in price for good examples I agree with above. Keep looking for a really fine example at that range and with box and papers not out of reach imho. M

27 February 2014, 01:29 AM	#5
Jetkopite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: Dubai Watch: 5131R,6263,5712T Posts: 1,559	Thanks guys I was only thinking about this one as its my birth year 1975 but the thought of having to find new hands to put on it is putting me off a little. It only comes with box and no papers.

27 February 2014, 01:34 AM	#6
Jetkopite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: Dubai Watch: 5131R,6263,5712T Posts: 1,559	Just out of curiosity what would such a watch in that condition go for price wise that would be acceptable if I can drop the $5900???

27 February 2014, 01:48 AM	#7
datejust24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Watch: Rolexssss Posts: 3,504	$4.5 - $5k

27 February 2014, 02:17 AM	#10
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Try to get it for 5K or less

27 February 2014, 03:15 AM	#12
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Jacek is selling a killer 1675 right now. It's amazing. Great patina

27 February 2014, 05:01 AM	#14
StanGMT "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northumberland,UK Watch: 1675 GMT Posts: 641	Like Linesiders, I would be concerned about that Tritium that's missing from the GMT and second hands - about how it became dislodged and where it went to. It is quite brittle and can powder, so some of it might have found its way into the movement at some stage. Certainly I wouldn't want to pay that price for something that might be suspect. Stan.

27 February 2014, 05:15 AM	#16
Jetkopite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: Dubai Watch: 5131R,6263,5712T Posts: 1,559	Stan thats a very good point but I have seen many vintage GMT's 1675 with tritium missing on the hands etc and thought this was normal with these old watches??? I always wondered where it went..

1 March 2014, 01:43 PM	#20
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	Honestly get the best example you can find. The serial number business is a gues-estimate for the most part. __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

1 March 2014, 11:47 PM	#21
Jetkopite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: Dubai Watch: 5131R,6263,5712T Posts: 1,559	Hey guys here is more pictures of the watch I have been thinking about.. I think I can get the price down to $5500 what do you think is that still high?? Also the cyclops magnification isnt very strong, does it look wrong to you guys? The guy selling it said to me its been with same family from day one this watch but who knows whats true or not?? ha. Attached Images

2 March 2014, 12:04 AM	#22
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Do you have other pictures of the bracelet/clasp? I would prefer to see better pictures to hold my comment on it.

2 March 2014, 12:54 AM	#23
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	Seems like you're very keen on this one. I wouldn't buy it. IMHO, $5.5K is still a lot, as you need to get the hands repaired or replaced, unless you like that look...

2 March 2014, 01:28 AM	#28
southtexas 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,764	Still high Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

2 March 2014, 02:30 AM	#29
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	. Would still like to see pictures of the bracelet, if you are able to get them...

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