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SearChart · 13 March 2014, 12:43 AM

Dear TRF,

Time for another poll

Rolex 36mm DayDate WG vs Patek Philippe 5712-1a

Both are sporty/classy timepieces, I'd go for the rolex though (32k for a steel watch is hard to justify imo)

Jack T · 13 March 2014, 01:58 AM

Despite the enhanced prestige, this particular Patek doesn't get my motor running; nor do the diamonds on the dial of the DD.

The Aquanaut, now that's another story.

SaddleSC · 13 March 2014, 02:07 AM

I love the look of the 5712, but I would choose the DD between these two. Have you had the opportunity to see/handle the 5712 in person? I first tried it on a few months ago and was very surprised how thin both the case and bracelet were. The watch was a little too "elegant" for my lifestyle. I also found the clasp to be sub-par for a watch in that price range.

I tend to prefer a little more "presence" with the case/bracelet, so I would go for the DD.

SearChart · 13 March 2014, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SaddleSC

I love the look of the 5712, but I would choose the DD between these two. Have you had the opportunity to see/handle the 5712 in person? I first tried it on a few months ago and was very surprised how thin both the case and bracelet were. The watch was a little too "elegant" for my lifestyle. I also found the clasp to be sub-par for a watch in that price range.

I tend to prefer a little more "presence" with the case/bracelet, so I would go for the DD.

I've never handled the Nautilus in person, I have however handled a Calatrava and 5170 and I was amazed by how good they look in person in comparison to pictures.

I have tried on several Rolex watches and most of them just feel the same to me, I love it that Rolex is very consistent with quality and with sticking to a core design (e.g. case/clasp and bracelet style), something that other brands don't have or just not in the same way.

But I find it interesting to see that despite this is the main Rolex forum there are still quite a lot of people that vote for patek (just like my previous polls).

nickb732 · 13 March 2014, 02:13 AM

The DD definitely looks better.

kbutler971 · 13 March 2014, 02:24 AM

This is a great but really tough question. I'm fortunate to have access to both (118239 on Oyster bracelet and 5712/1A) and would give the slightest of nods to the DD. Love the WG DD weight and fit but the PP has that "under the radar" presence. Again, for me a very tough call.

FeelingTheBlues · 13 March 2014, 02:21 AM

Patek for me, that reference is one of my favorites. The choice wasn't easy to make though as that Day-Date is beautiful.

Roller07 · 13 March 2014, 02:23 AM

DD gets my vote. There are only a few Pateks that I like and the 5712 is not one of them.

tinger · 13 March 2014, 02:30 AM

Of these 2, I pick the daydate (and I dont even care for rocks on the dial)
I would have voted for any other version of Nautilus.

Royalex · 13 March 2014, 02:43 AM

I would choose 5712

FTX I · 13 March 2014, 02:47 AM

DD would be my choice but without diamonds. Gorgeous watch.

Ed Man · 13 March 2014, 02:48 AM

I would choose the DD! Not real big on the diamonds but that's a good looking watch.

Cc1966 · 13 March 2014, 03:07 AM

That Day Date is stunning. Not a diamonds fan, but that dial is a winner regardless.

AboutTime · 13 March 2014, 03:15 AM

I would choose the Day-Date. I owned a Patek Calatrava (admittedly not the model of interest here) but seldom wore it and traded it for a Day-Date.

travisb · 13 March 2014, 03:26 AM

Patek for me.
Although not my 1st choice in the SS Nautilus line, I do prefer it over that DD.
Two great choices though.

GB-man · 13 March 2014, 03:31 AM

I voted patek but I fancy the DD in rose gold and the 5726 over 5712, of course that would widen the price gap.

tomchicago · 13 March 2014, 03:41 AM

Try them both on in person several times with different shirts and make your decision only then. I really admired the PP Nautili in photos here and elsewhere, but when i actually tried several Nautilus models on, they just didn't feel right and I passed. I found the bracelet was stiff and not as comfortable as the President, and the contours of the case just didn't look right on my wrist and weren't comfortable. And I would skip the diamonds seriously...If you want diamonds go for the meteorite dial which is much more subtle. Your mileage may vary though! Enjoy your quest!

SearChart · 13 March 2014, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tomchicago

Try them both on in person several times with different shirts and make your decision only then. I really admired the PP Nautili in photos here and elsewhere, but when i actually tried several Nautilus models on, they just didn't feel right and I passed. I found the bracelet was stiff and not as comfortable as the President, and the contours of the case just didn't look right on my wrist and weren't comfortable. And I would skip the diamonds seriously...If you want diamonds go for the meteorite dial which is much more subtle. Your mileage may vary though! Enjoy your quest!

This is just a poll to see which one the people here would choose, I am too young to be able to own a watch of this caliber

kilyung · 13 March 2014, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

This is just a poll to see which one the people here would choose, I am too young to be able to own a watch of this caliber

Ah, it's a fantasy poll. Well I choose both then.

SearChart · 13 March 2014, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Ah, it's a fantasy poll. Well I choose both then.

HL65 · 13 March 2014, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kilyung

Ah, it's a fantasy poll. Well I choose both then.

Make it a 5980R and Platinum glacier diamond dial DDI then for me!

AK797 · 13 March 2014, 04:19 AM

I was looking at a choco DD2 and the 5711 and the DD2 is just stunning in the flesh so the DD would be my choice but only 41mm.

bayerische · 13 March 2014, 04:20 AM

Ummm, PATEK!

capote · 13 March 2014, 04:22 AM

Although I'm no fan of diamonds I prefer the Rolex, the 5712 dial is all over the place. The 5711 is stunning though.

kilyung · 13 March 2014, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SearChart

I'd go for the rolex though (32k for a steel watch is hard to justify imo)

Sounds like you already know what you want to do??

VICI · 13 March 2014, 05:03 AM

Do you want a yellow car or a black car?

One is obviously louder than the other.

For me, my DDII is for certain days and my AP is for other types of days.

waQstar · 13 March 2014, 05:04 AM

Patek for me in this case

iazrollie · 13 March 2014, 05:31 AM

PP all day. Very subtle and classy. Although id go with the 5711 instead, and thus eliminate your $32K SS hurdle.

Dr. Robert · 13 March 2014, 05:38 AM

Neither.

threemonkeys · 13 March 2014, 05:47 AM

Both are out of my league, but I would go with the PP.

View Poll Results: Rolex 36mm DayDate WG vs Patek Philippe 5712-1a
Rolex 36mm DayDate WG	76	47.50%
Patek Philippe 5712-1a	84	52.50%
Voters: 160. You may not vote on this poll

13 March 2014, 01:58 AM	#2
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,719	Despite the enhanced prestige, this particular Patek doesn't get my motor running; nor do the diamonds on the dial of the DD. The Aquanaut, now that's another story. __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

13 March 2014, 02:07 AM	#3
SaddleSC "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Charles B Location: GMT -7 Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 6,131	I love the look of the 5712, but I would choose the DD between these two. Have you had the opportunity to see/handle the 5712 in person? I first tried it on a few months ago and was very surprised how thin both the case and bracelet were. The watch was a little too "elegant" for my lifestyle. I also found the clasp to be sub-par for a watch in that price range. I tend to prefer a little more "presence" with the case/bracelet, so I would go for the DD. __________________ Hulk 116610LV + GMT II 126710 BLNR + Explorer 124270 + Air King 126900 + Submariner 16613LB

13 March 2014, 02:21 AM	#7
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	Patek for me, that reference is one of my favorites. The choice wasn't easy to make though as that Day-Date is beautiful. __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

13 March 2014, 03:07 AM	#13
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	That Day Date is stunning. Not a diamonds fan, but that dial is a winner regardless. __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

13 March 2014, 02:13 AM	#5
nickb732 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Nicholas Location: UK Posts: 2,630	The DD definitely looks better.

13 March 2014, 02:24 AM	#6
kbutler971 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 984	This is a great but really tough question. I'm fortunate to have access to both (118239 on Oyster bracelet and 5712/1A) and would give the slightest of nods to the DD. Love the WG DD weight and fit but the PP has that "under the radar" presence. Again, for me a very tough call.

13 March 2014, 02:23 AM	#8
Roller07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: GMT -5 Watch: HulkPepsiCoke Posts: 2,364	DD gets my vote. There are only a few Pateks that I like and the 5712 is not one of them.

13 March 2014, 02:30 AM	#9
tinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: weehawken Posts: 847	Of these 2, I pick the daydate (and I dont even care for rocks on the dial) I would have voted for any other version of Nautilus.

13 March 2014, 02:43 AM	#10
Royalex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bangkok Posts: 762	I would choose 5712

13 March 2014, 02:47 AM	#11
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	DD would be my choice but without diamonds. Gorgeous watch.

13 March 2014, 02:48 AM	#12
Ed Man Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Edmond Location: Michigan Watch: 114060/116334 Posts: 737	I would choose the DD! Not real big on the diamonds but that's a good looking watch.

13 March 2014, 03:15 AM	#14
AboutTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: N California Posts: 909	I would choose the Day-Date. I owned a Patek Calatrava (admittedly not the model of interest here) but seldom wore it and traded it for a Day-Date.

13 March 2014, 03:26 AM	#15
travisb 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,489	Patek for me. Although not my 1st choice in the SS Nautilus line, I do prefer it over that DD. Two great choices though.

13 March 2014, 03:31 AM	#16
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	I voted patek but I fancy the DD in rose gold and the 5726 over 5712, of course that would widen the price gap.

13 March 2014, 03:41 AM	#17
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	Try them both on in person several times with different shirts and make your decision only then. I really admired the PP Nautili in photos here and elsewhere, but when i actually tried several Nautilus models on, they just didn't feel right and I passed. I found the bracelet was stiff and not as comfortable as the President, and the contours of the case just didn't look right on my wrist and weren't comfortable. And I would skip the diamonds seriously...If you want diamonds go for the meteorite dial which is much more subtle. Your mileage may vary though! Enjoy your quest!

13 March 2014, 04:19 AM	#22
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	I was looking at a choco DD2 and the 5711 and the DD2 is just stunning in the flesh so the DD would be my choice but only 41mm.

13 March 2014, 04:20 AM	#23
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Ummm, PATEK! __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

13 March 2014, 04:22 AM	#24
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	Although I'm no fan of diamonds I prefer the Rolex, the 5712 dial is all over the place. The 5711 is stunning though.

13 March 2014, 05:03 AM	#26
VICI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Gotham City Watch: IG: Mr_Right_NYC Posts: 5,672	Do you want a yellow car or a black car? One is obviously louder than the other. For me, my DDII is for certain days and my AP is for other types of days.

13 March 2014, 05:04 AM	#27
waQstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Walter A. Location: Sunny California Watch: 16760 Posts: 2,629	Patek for me in this case __________________ Our shadows taller than our soul........

13 March 2014, 05:31 AM	#28
iazrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Ian Location: NY Watch: All of them Posts: 3,245	PP all day. Very subtle and classy. Although id go with the 5711 instead, and thus eliminate your $32K SS hurdle. __________________ Rolex, PPs, Breitling

13 March 2014, 05:38 AM	#29
Dr. Robert 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 64,258	Neither. __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

13 March 2014, 05:47 AM	#30
threemonkeys "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Craig Location: Seattle-ish, USA Watch: GMTIIc, AK, LVc Posts: 7,022	Both are out of my league, but I would go with the PP.

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