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HogwldFLTR · 18 May 2014, 04:50 AM

My wife offered to buy me a new watch for my combined Birthday/Father's Day present (both the same week). I decided to swap my relatively new 116000 orange and black dial for something new. My initial idea was to get an EXP 1 in 39mm but the day it was to be shipped I had a change of heart and opted for an 114060 even though I already have a 14060 which I like a lot and wear a lot.

I'm curious as to what you would have done; which would you have chosen?

BTW, the Sub is in house and is getting sized today.

toomuchtalk · 18 May 2014, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

My wife offered to buy me a new watch for my combined Birthday/Father's Day present (both the same week). I decided to swap my relatively new 116000 orange and black dial for something new. My initial idea was to get an EXP 1 in 39mm but the day it was to be shipped I had a change of heart and opted for an 114060 even though I already have a 14060 which I like a lot and wear a lot.

I'm curious as to what you would have done; which would you have chosen?

Would have gone explorer. As you have the Sub;older version.

Gerardus · 18 May 2014, 04:57 AM

Voted Sub 100%

Jeronimo · 18 May 2014, 05:04 AM

I like the Explorer very much, but the Sub is the Sub...!

Many congratulations!

porschedude · 18 May 2014, 05:05 AM

The sub!!!

Presa canary · 18 May 2014, 05:09 AM

If you already have the 14, I see no point in the 114. Easy choice expi

FTX I · 18 May 2014, 05:31 AM

Nothing beats a nice pair of Subs.

Racerdj · 18 May 2014, 05:40 AM

My vote is the Sub.

HogwldFLTR · 18 May 2014, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FTX I

Nothing beats a nice pair of Subs.

Except maybe three of a kind. I like the 14060 so much; the new one is massive in comparison.

Wesley Crusher · 18 May 2014, 06:29 AM

That's a tough choice for me because I really love both watches. I would go with the 114060 first and then the 214270. Have you thought about selling your 14060M for the 214270? That's what I would do.

A 114060 and 214270 would make a killer combo.

FTX I · 18 May 2014, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Except maybe three of a kind.

Can't argue with that.

postalworker · 18 May 2014, 06:36 AM

Sub

AK797 · 18 May 2014, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

That's a tough choice for me because I really love both watches. I would go with the 114060 first and then the 214270. Have you thought about selling your 14060M for the 214270? That's what I would do.

A 114060 and 214270 would make a killer combo.

Agree, I would sell the old sub and have the other two.

Lion · 18 May 2014, 06:55 AM

That would be a tough choice for me to decide on...since I like both watches and would love to eventually own both of them. If I did not already own a 14060M, I would get one of them now and then save up for the other one...but now of course the Explorer I.....

up2nogood · 18 May 2014, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

That's a tough choice for me because I really love both watches. I would go with the 114060 first and then the 214270. Have you thought about selling your 14060M for the 214270? That's what I would do.

A 114060 and 214270 would make a killer combo.

^^^^^
I concur!

ltmgeller · 18 May 2014, 07:28 AM

Sub

luvsub · 18 May 2014, 07:42 AM

Sub.

Boothroyd · 18 May 2014, 07:43 AM

I want a 114060 to go with my Explorer. I think that would be a great combo, also.

GradyPhilpott · 18 May 2014, 08:22 AM

Now that the Explorer is 39mm, there isn't a lot of significant differences between the Explorer and the 14060 and the 114060, except for the bezels, at least for those who don't dive. So, if you're conflicted between a 214270 and any Sub, the bezels should be the deciding factors, when you consider how useful they are, or at least how useful they are to me.

I'm not too sure that I'd need two Rolex divers, but I will say that I think that my 114270 and my 14060M make a dynamic duo.

Jack T · 18 May 2014, 08:38 AM

On this site, a statistically insignificant slice of unreality, a lot say go for the Sub, one of which you already have. In the real world, people would look at you with a deeply quizzical expression and say "huh, are you serious?"
Looks like you made your choice, hope you enjoy enjoy them both.

sea-dweller · 18 May 2014, 08:38 AM

I would get the Sub...

GradyPhilpott · 18 May 2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack T

On this site, a statistically insignificant slice of unreality, a lot say go for the Sub, one of which you already have. In the real world, people would look at you with a deeply quizzical expression and say "huh, are you serious?"
Looks like you made your choice, hope you enjoy enjoy them both.

Along these lines, yesterday I showed a lady friend a picture of a BLNR and told her that it would be my next watch.

She said it was beautiful and asked how much it cost.

I said, "A little less that $10,000."

Her jaw fell open and she said, "Why would you pay that kind of money for a watch."

I said, "Because that's how much it cost."

They just don't understand.

JohnFM · 18 May 2014, 09:12 AM

Both watches are really nice. Can't go wrong with either.

I went into an AD a while back to try on the 114060 -- love the clean dial and overall iconic design. Then I tried on the 214270, which seemed elegant and understated, but a little less interesting to my eye. Even though I prefer the Sub in many ways, the Explorer looked better on my wrist -- I couldn't deny it and various sales staff agreed. Why? Because my wrist is on the small side at 6.75". So my advice would probably be that if you like both watches equally, go with the Sub if your wrist is 7" or larger and the Explorer if it's under 7".

Sometimes there can be tension between what we like best (the intrinsic qualities of the watch itself) and what looks best on our wrist. Tough to advise when these two things aren't in sync. This is probably why I have yet to buy either watch, as much as I like both ;-)

John

tkerrmd · 18 May 2014, 09:27 AM

Totally agree!! Good move, congrats!!

kaseri · 18 May 2014, 10:02 AM

I would have chosen the Explorer 1.

kaseri · 18 May 2014, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Along these lines, yesterday I showed a lady friend a picture of a BLNR and told her that it would be my next watch.

She said it was beautiful and asked how much it cost.

I said, "A little less that $10,000."

Her jaw fell open and she said, "Why would you pay that kind of money for a watch."

I said, "Because that's how much it cost."

They just don't understand.

It's all in perception. I don't feel any Louis Vuitton product is worth the price they charge. I know of no woman that wouldn't love to own a LV bag though.

HogwldFLTR · 18 May 2014, 10:27 AM

What truly amazes me is the difference between the two watches. Since I do a lot of water activities including swimming three to five miles a week, I typically like a watch that has a bezel that I can use to watch my time and one that also has good water resistance. Call it engineering margin. At any rate here are the two subs (no dates) side by side.

BNA/LION · 18 May 2014, 10:47 AM

Sub was a good choice!

Roll the Lex · 18 May 2014, 11:46 AM

Explorer I- I love it. For me, I wouldn't want to own several models of one model.

But congrats on the new watch and happy b-day/father's day!

Old Expat Beast · 18 May 2014, 02:28 PM

I would have gone Sub, but a date version, probably the 16610 to match the 14060. Either that, or a 36mm Explorer.

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Explorer 1 39mm	35	27.56%
Submariner 114060	92	72.44%
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18 May 2014, 04:50 AM	#1
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	Wwyd My wife offered to buy me a new watch for my combined Birthday/Father's Day present (both the same week). I decided to swap my relatively new 116000 orange and black dial for something new. My initial idea was to get an EXP 1 in 39mm but the day it was to be shipped I had a change of heart and opted for an 114060 even though I already have a 14060 which I like a lot and wear a lot. I'm curious as to what you would have done; which would you have chosen? BTW, the Sub is in house and is getting sized today. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

18 May 2014, 04:57 AM	#3
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: often in the air Watch: ♕ Posts: 12,142	Voted Sub 100% __________________ ♕126610 ♕126333 ♕116300

18 May 2014, 05:40 AM	#8
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	My vote is the Sub. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

18 May 2014, 06:55 AM	#14
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	That would be a tough choice for me to decide on...since I like both watches and would love to eventually own both of them. If I did not already own a 14060M, I would get one of them now and then save up for the other one...but now of course the Explorer I..... __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

18 May 2014, 05:04 AM	#4
Jeronimo "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeronimo Location: Around the World Watch: Depends on the day Posts: 1,768	I like the Explorer very much, but the Sub is the Sub...! Many congratulations!

18 May 2014, 05:05 AM	#5
porschedude "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: USA Watch: 116610LV Posts: 1,207	The sub!!!

18 May 2014, 05:09 AM	#6
Presa canary "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Justin Location: Pa Watch: Explorer ii Posts: 3,155	If you already have the 14, I see no point in the 114. Easy choice expi

18 May 2014, 05:31 AM	#7
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	Nothing beats a nice pair of Subs.

18 May 2014, 06:29 AM	#10
Wesley Crusher "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Wes Location: Holosuite Posts: 6,345	That's a tough choice for me because I really love both watches. I would go with the 114060 first and then the 214270. Have you thought about selling your 14060M for the 214270? That's what I would do. A 114060 and 214270 would make a killer combo.

18 May 2014, 06:36 AM	#12
postalworker Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: California Watch: 116618LN Posts: 566	Sub

18 May 2014, 07:28 AM	#16
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,577	Sub

18 May 2014, 07:42 AM	#17
luvsub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SF, south bay Posts: 5,222	Sub.

18 May 2014, 07:43 AM	#18
Boothroyd 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Daniel Location: Minneapolis, MN Watch: Wilsdorf(s) Posts: 10,258	I want a 114060 to go with my Explorer. I think that would be a great combo, also. __________________ Explorer 214270 MK I/Datejust II Black 116300/Tudor Heritage Black Bay Black 79220N

18 May 2014, 08:22 AM	#19
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,460	Now that the Explorer is 39mm, there isn't a lot of significant differences between the Explorer and the 14060 and the 114060, except for the bezels, at least for those who don't dive. So, if you're conflicted between a 214270 and any Sub, the bezels should be the deciding factors, when you consider how useful they are, or at least how useful they are to me. I'm not too sure that I'd need two Rolex divers, but I will say that I think that my 114270 and my 14060M make a dynamic duo. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

18 May 2014, 08:38 AM	#20
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,719	On this site, a statistically insignificant slice of unreality, a lot say go for the Sub, one of which you already have. In the real world, people would look at you with a deeply quizzical expression and say "huh, are you serious?" Looks like you made your choice, hope you enjoy enjoy them both. __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

18 May 2014, 08:38 AM	#21
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I would get the Sub...

18 May 2014, 09:12 AM	#23
JohnFM "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: northern CA USA Watch: 114270 Explorer Posts: 479	Both watches are really nice. Can't go wrong with either. I went into an AD a while back to try on the 114060 -- love the clean dial and overall iconic design. Then I tried on the 214270, which seemed elegant and understated, but a little less interesting to my eye. Even though I prefer the Sub in many ways, the Explorer looked better on my wrist -- I couldn't deny it and various sales staff agreed. Why? Because my wrist is on the small side at 6.75". So my advice would probably be that if you like both watches equally, go with the Sub if your wrist is 7" or larger and the Explorer if it's under 7". Sometimes there can be tension between what we like best (the intrinsic qualities of the watch itself) and what looks best on our wrist. Tough to advise when these two things aren't in sync. This is probably why I have yet to buy either watch, as much as I like both ;-) John

18 May 2014, 09:27 AM	#24
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Totally agree!! Good move, congrats!!

18 May 2014, 10:02 AM	#25
kaseri "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: USA Posts: 350	I would have chosen the Explorer 1.

18 May 2014, 10:27 AM	#27
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	What truly amazes me is the difference between the two watches. Since I do a lot of water activities including swimming three to five miles a week, I typically like a watch that has a bezel that I can use to watch my time and one that also has good water resistance. Call it engineering margin. At any rate here are the two subs (no dates) side by side. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

18 May 2014, 10:47 AM	#28
BNA/LION 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,650	Sub was a good choice! __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

18 May 2014, 11:46 AM	#29
Roll the Lex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,842	Explorer I- I love it. For me, I wouldn't want to own several models of one model. But congrats on the new watch and happy b-day/father's day!

18 May 2014, 02:28 PM	#30
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,825	I would have gone Sub, but a date version, probably the 16610 to match the 14060. Either that, or a 36mm Explorer.

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