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cerbom · 28 September 2014, 05:17 PM

http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/G...46-plane-crash

I attached a link to the WW 2 plane crash the I hiked to in Upstate NY.
I also attached my Airking Pic near part of the plane. This crash was in 1944 and I thought the Airking would be a period correct watch (if you know the AK history) as I believe it was first introduced to be used by pilots of the British AF during that time.
Please feel free to correct or add and info on the history. I also have never seen a pic of an AK that old if someone would like to post.

Pics of the site in the above link.

Old Expat Beast · 28 September 2014, 06:02 PM

I thought we were going to see an Air-King that had been found at a WW2 crash site.

bayerische · 28 September 2014, 06:49 PM

Cool!

NWCarver · 28 September 2014, 07:07 PM

Actually most RAF pilots were issued 6B/159s (Air Ministry number) which were either Omega or Longine, or even Jeager La Coutre watches (non-hacking movement) - the AM also issued the Longines Weems to a few lucky pilots. RAF navigators and bombardiers were also issued the AM issued stopwatch as well.

If the pilot lost his 6B/159 (enemy action or his own fault) then he was given the 6B/234 and generally then pilot had his pay docked to pay for the missing watch. The 6B/234s were good watches with hacking movements this time.

joe100 · 29 September 2014, 12:01 AM

Very interesting photo indeed.

The AK was introduced in 1945 just as things were winding down in Europe. The watch was never specifically designed for pilots but instead to honor the RAF in the Battle of Brittain. However, since it was oversized for its day, I'm sure some were used by pilots. I've used mine while flying small aircraft, it's perfectly capable.

For time based navigation, all a pilot or navigator needs is a good watch. A chrono is helpful but unnecessary. Let alone a fly back!

watchwatcher · 29 September 2014, 12:07 AM

Interesting. Thanks,

Kingair · 29 September 2014, 01:23 AM

Just checked it was a C46 apparently

Racerdj · 29 September 2014, 01:30 AM

Neat picture.

dysondiver · 29 September 2014, 01:43 AM

interesting read ,,,, good info.

JohnBaker3 · 29 September 2014, 01:50 AM

Thanks for sharing; intereting hobby of using your GPS to find different sites.

NWCarver · 29 September 2014, 02:03 AM

Two of my Omega 6B/159 RAF issued watches...blued hands and paper dials..

NWCarver · 29 September 2014, 02:05 AM

Back of the watches with Broad arrow marks and AM designations...

cerbom · 29 September 2014, 08:08 AM

thanks for all the info...

Jewild · 30 September 2014, 04:28 AM

I see the geocache link,
what is your user name under ??
Was hooked for quite a while, but laid back lately,
just look when we visit new locations.

irish john · 30 September 2014, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I thought we were going to see an Air-King that had been found at a WW2 crash site.

Me too

Dvenus11 · 30 September 2014, 04:44 AM

very cool

cerbom · 30 September 2014, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewild

I see the geocache link,
what is your user name under ??
Was hooked for quite a while, but laid back lately,
just look when we visit new locations.

I m not a geocacher, just happened to see the link when looking for history of the plane crash. I m not even a hiker really, 1o hours of hiking that day

, no trails either.

Beef · 30 September 2014, 05:37 AM

Great hike, great story. Thanks for sharing, it's something my family and I would to do sometime.

28 September 2014, 05:17 PM	#1
cerbom 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: mark Location: East TN Watch: rolex AK, GMT, TAG Posts: 203	Airking at WW 2 crash site (pic) http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/G...46-plane-crash I attached a link to the WW 2 plane crash the I hiked to in Upstate NY. I also attached my Airking Pic near part of the plane. This crash was in 1944 and I thought the Airking would be a period correct watch (if you know the AK history) as I believe it was first introduced to be used by pilots of the British AF during that time. Please feel free to correct or add and info on the history. I also have never seen a pic of an AK that old if someone would like to post. Pics of the site in the above link. Attached Images __________________ Rolex Airking Tag Aquaracer Rolex GMT

28 September 2014, 06:49 PM	#3
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Cool! __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

29 September 2014, 12:01 AM	#5
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,840	Very interesting photo indeed. The AK was introduced in 1945 just as things were winding down in Europe. The watch was never specifically designed for pilots but instead to honor the RAF in the Battle of Brittain. However, since it was oversized for its day, I'm sure some were used by pilots. I've used mine while flying small aircraft, it's perfectly capable. For time based navigation, all a pilot or navigator needs is a good watch. A chrono is helpful but unnecessary. Let alone a fly back! __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

29 September 2014, 01:30 AM	#8
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Neat picture. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

29 September 2014, 01:50 AM	#10
JohnBaker3 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: John Baker III Location: Spring,Texas Watch: 1971 Red Sub Posts: 2,222	Thanks for sharing; intereting hobby of using your GPS to find different sites. __________________ As I've grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing off everyone is a piece of cake.

28 September 2014, 06:02 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	I thought we were going to see an Air-King that had been found at a WW2 crash site.

28 September 2014, 07:07 PM	#4
NWCarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 205	Actually most RAF pilots were issued 6B/159s (Air Ministry number) which were either Omega or Longine, or even Jeager La Coutre watches (non-hacking movement) - the AM also issued the Longines Weems to a few lucky pilots. RAF navigators and bombardiers were also issued the AM issued stopwatch as well. If the pilot lost his 6B/159 (enemy action or his own fault) then he was given the 6B/234 and generally then pilot had his pay docked to pay for the missing watch. The 6B/234s were good watches with hacking movements this time.

29 September 2014, 12:07 AM	#6
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	Interesting. Thanks,

29 September 2014, 01:23 AM	#7
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Just checked it was a C46 apparently

29 September 2014, 01:43 AM	#9
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	interesting read ,,,, good info.

29 September 2014, 02:03 AM	#11
NWCarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 205	Two of my Omega 6B/159 RAF issued watches...blued hands and paper dials.. Attached Images

29 September 2014, 02:05 AM	#12
NWCarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 205	Back of the watches with Broad arrow marks and AM designations... Attached Images

29 September 2014, 08:08 AM	#13
cerbom 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: mark Location: East TN Watch: rolex AK, GMT, TAG Posts: 203	thanks for all the info... Attached Images __________________ Rolex Airking Tag Aquaracer Rolex GMT

30 September 2014, 04:28 AM	#14
Jewild "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Hanover, Pa. Posts: 111	I see the geocache link, what is your user name under ?? Was hooked for quite a while, but laid back lately, just look when we visit new locations.

30 September 2014, 04:44 AM	#16
Dvenus11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Sunny Location: Los Angeles Watch: GMT Master 2 Posts: 941	very cool

30 September 2014, 05:37 AM	#18
Beef "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,824	Great hike, great story. Thanks for sharing, it's something my family and I would to do sometime. __________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." "So you have enemies. Good. You must have stood up for something, sometime in your life." Winston Churchill

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