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djmusicman · 9 November 2014, 02:00 AM

Hello, I'm trying to learn about the ref. 5513 rolex sub. I've seen this one for sale, looks immaculate, it's got a matte maxi dial and it's from 1982. There seems to be little or no patina. Is that likely to be because the dial has been refinished at some point? here are some pics... Thanks!

JohnBaker3 · 9 November 2014, 02:10 AM

Look at the dial at the 6 o'clock position; if it says " SWISS T< 25" then it is probably original and not refinished.

Search this site for threads on patina. Tritium dials that were stored in the dark for many years have darker patinas than those worn in the sunlight all the time.

This watch spent 25 years in a drawer....

Good luck in your search for a nice watch...

djmusicman · 9 November 2014, 02:30 AM

wow that's a nice watch you've got there. yes it says SWISS T< 25 on the dial. What would be the value in your opinion? There are no box or papers

Time Exposure · 9 November 2014, 02:43 AM

I know there's a lot of members who read both forums, but post this on the vintage forum and you'll probably get more responses. There's also a "sticky" thread there about this reference.

djmusicman · 9 November 2014, 02:49 AM

Good idea, thanks! i justed posted this on the vintage forum

Beaumont Miller II · 9 November 2014, 03:03 AM

That's a nice looking Maxi 4.
Sometimes the patina on the hour markers darken over time, sometimes they don't. The amount of UV exposure over time plays an important part in this.
I have a Maxi 4 with white markers as well, always brings a smile to my face, and makes a great daily wearer.

nsumner · 9 November 2014, 03:18 AM

From the provided pics, it looks to be very nice. I prefer the stark white dial on these, it just looks right and provides good contrast to the matte dial surface.

Check this out, you'll learn everything you need to about this reference: www.5513mattedial.com

NukeMan · 9 November 2014, 03:24 AM

Looks great IMHO!

9 November 2014, 02:00 AM	#1
djmusicman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: David Location: paris Posts: 72	5513 from 1983 opinion Hello, I'm trying to learn about the ref. 5513 rolex sub. I've seen this one for sale, looks immaculate, it's got a matte maxi dial and it's from 1982. There seems to be little or no patina. Is that likely to be because the dial has been refinished at some point? here are some pics... Thanks! Attached Images

9 November 2014, 02:10 AM	#2
JohnBaker3 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: John Baker III Location: Spring,Texas Watch: 1971 Red Sub Posts: 2,222	Look at the dial at the 6 o'clock position; if it says " SWISS T< 25" then it is probably original and not refinished. Search this site for threads on patina. Tritium dials that were stored in the dark for many years have darker patinas than those worn in the sunlight all the time. This watch spent 25 years in a drawer.... Good luck in your search for a nice watch... Attached Images __________________ As I've grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing off everyone is a piece of cake.

9 November 2014, 03:03 AM	#6
Beaumont Miller II "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,615	That's a nice looking Maxi 4. Sometimes the patina on the hour markers darken over time, sometimes they don't. The amount of UV exposure over time plays an important part in this. I have a Maxi 4 with white markers as well, always brings a smile to my face, and makes a great daily wearer. __________________

9 November 2014, 02:30 AM	#3
djmusicman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: David Location: paris Posts: 72	wow that's a nice watch you've got there. yes it says SWISS T< 25 on the dial. What would be the value in your opinion? There are no box or papers

9 November 2014, 02:43 AM	#4
Time Exposure "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Bryan Location: Sac Valley, CA US Watch: Patek 5980/1A Posts: 2,860	I know there's a lot of members who read both forums, but post this on the vintage forum and you'll probably get more responses. There's also a "sticky" thread there about this reference.

9 November 2014, 02:49 AM	#5
djmusicman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: David Location: paris Posts: 72	Good idea, thanks! i justed posted this on the vintage forum

9 November 2014, 03:18 AM	#7
nsumner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Nathaniel Location: Wisconsin Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,991	From the provided pics, it looks to be very nice. I prefer the stark white dial on these, it just looks right and provides good contrast to the matte dial surface. Check this out, you'll learn everything you need to about this reference: www.5513mattedial.com

9 November 2014, 03:24 AM	#8
NukeMan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Jonas Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 988	Looks great IMHO!

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