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salihy · 20 January 2015, 06:16 AM

Hi guys,

Thinking about adding a new watch to my collection. To be honest, bought a lot of PP recently so PP is the last one on my list. But the cheapest one :)

1. Audemars Piguet GMT Concept Tourbillon (this exact reference)

The price will be around 125,000 Euro. This would be my first ever tourbillon watch and a perfect one for that (as I think tourbillon is a movement looking better on a sports watch rather than PP with closed tourbillon or something like JLC with open tourbillon. Minute repeater is for more classical style watches, in my opinion of course. The size is good for my wrist as well.

2. Richard Mille RM35 Nadal Carbon

I do not have a Richard Mille & Skeleton so that would fit nice for me as well. The price will be around 80,000 Euros. Also the size is really good and this for me is really a good looking & sporty watch. Can't be sure about the price & also the availability though.

3. Patek Philippe 5960P Black Dial

The cheapest of all, will be around 55,000 Euro. They produced so little numbers of this version (around 100-125). Have similar watches to be fair.

4. Rolex Daytona Paul Newman 6239

This is the most collectible watch of all 4. I very much want to own one day, just not sure if now or not. Will be around 60,000 - 80,000 Euros depending on condition. Will be hard to find one mint and complete set. The size (37mm) is a bit small for my wrist as well, but I don't really care about it for this specific model.

Your thoughts? I'm thinking to get rid of my PP 5164A and AP Carbon Grand Prix as a part of trade, if I go for AP or RM. For the others, I'd keep those two and just pay cash.

PS. Also been offered a RM11 Dual Time (didn't get a price for that one yet), but probably will be very close to AP Tourbillon.

Thanks,

Salih

Sixshooter · 20 January 2015, 07:27 AM

That PP or the AP would be my choice. I can appreciate RM's for what they are, but the styling does not appeal to me. Whatever you choose, congrats in advance!

landroverking · 20 January 2015, 07:56 AM

PP for me. Daytona a very close 2nd.

Soleless Shoes · 20 January 2015, 08:18 AM

I'd go with the Daytona.

GB-man · 20 January 2015, 08:46 AM

Well lovely options you have my friend!

I have to say for me the concept case on the AP doesn't do it for me and would be enough for me to rule it out.

The RM 35-01 Rafa is simply wonderful in the flesh and is the lightest reference you will ever wear! I simply couldn't believe it when I tried it on a few months back.

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I am a big fan of the 5960p black but as you said you are a bit patek'd out!

Who doesn't love a Newman daytona but I would probably relegate it to the vault and I buy watches to wear not for investment

That said here's my order RM, PP, PN, AP

Have fun deciding

mps354 · 20 January 2015, 11:03 AM

If it was me, I'd go pp then ap...all are amazing pieces though

fmc000 · 20 January 2015, 02:50 PM

RM, no question. Absolutely fantastic watch, don't know the price is good or not.

HL65 · 20 January 2015, 08:25 PM

Patek then PN for me. If you go PN make sure you buy from someone very solid like Andrew Shear or Eric Ku.

MaxCargo · 21 January 2015, 04:39 AM

RM Nadal 4 the win 😄

SearChart · 21 January 2015, 05:56 AM

PP or Rolex.

20 January 2015, 06:16 AM	#1
salihy "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Turkey Watch: 5550p Posts: 366	Need some suggestions regarding AP vs PP vs RM vs Newman Hi guys, Thinking about adding a new watch to my collection. To be honest, bought a lot of PP recently so PP is the last one on my list. But the cheapest one :) 1. Audemars Piguet GMT Concept Tourbillon (this exact reference) The price will be around 125,000 Euro. This would be my first ever tourbillon watch and a perfect one for that (as I think tourbillon is a movement looking better on a sports watch rather than PP with closed tourbillon or something like JLC with open tourbillon. Minute repeater is for more classical style watches, in my opinion of course. The size is good for my wrist as well. 2. Richard Mille RM35 Nadal Carbon I do not have a Richard Mille & Skeleton so that would fit nice for me as well. The price will be around 80,000 Euros. Also the size is really good and this for me is really a good looking & sporty watch. Can't be sure about the price & also the availability though. 3. Patek Philippe 5960P Black Dial The cheapest of all, will be around 55,000 Euro. They produced so little numbers of this version (around 100-125). Have similar watches to be fair. 4. Rolex Daytona Paul Newman 6239 This is the most collectible watch of all 4. I very much want to own one day, just not sure if now or not. Will be around 60,000 - 80,000 Euros depending on condition. Will be hard to find one mint and complete set. The size (37mm) is a bit small for my wrist as well, but I don't really care about it for this specific model. Your thoughts? I'm thinking to get rid of my PP 5164A and AP Carbon Grand Prix as a part of trade, if I go for AP or RM. For the others, I'd keep those two and just pay cash. PS. Also been offered a RM11 Dual Time (didn't get a price for that one yet), but probably will be very close to AP Tourbillon. Thanks, Salih

20 January 2015, 07:27 AM	#2
Sixshooter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Caleb Location: Lubbock TX. USA Watch: Crude Prices Posts: 1,103	That PP or the AP would be my choice. I can appreciate RM's for what they are, but the styling does not appeal to me. Whatever you choose, congrats in advance! __________________ - VC - AP - Rolex - Omega

20 January 2015, 08:46 AM	#5
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	Well lovely options you have my friend! I have to say for me the concept case on the AP doesn't do it for me and would be enough for me to rule it out. The RM 35-01 Rafa is simply wonderful in the flesh and is the lightest reference you will ever wear! I simply couldn't believe it when I tried it on a few months back. I am a big fan of the 5960p black but as you said you are a bit patek'd out! Who doesn't love a Newman daytona but I would probably relegate it to the vault and I buy watches to wear not for investment That said here's my order RM, PP, PN, AP Have fun deciding __________________

20 January 2015, 08:25 PM	#8
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,005	Patek then PN for me. If you go PN make sure you buy from someone very solid like Andrew Shear or Eric Ku. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

21 January 2015, 04:39 AM	#9
MaxCargo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: EU Watch: DSSD Posts: 537	RM Nadal 4 the win 😄 __________________ Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent" You just have to trust your own madness,sanity is only a cosy lie. DSSD, Tudor Pelagos. SDc 4000

20 January 2015, 07:56 AM	#3
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	PP for me. Daytona a very close 2nd.

20 January 2015, 08:18 AM	#4
Soleless Shoes "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Rich Location: United States Posts: 302	I'd go with the Daytona.

20 January 2015, 11:03 AM	#6
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 9,098	If it was me, I'd go pp then ap...all are amazing pieces though

20 January 2015, 02:50 PM	#7
fmc000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Fabio Location: Como - Italy Posts: 4,811	RM, no question. Absolutely fantastic watch, don't know the price is good or not.

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