Ceramic Bezel O-ring Ideas ?

[Alf_flash]

Hello, sent my 2t sub for a service and it returned looking great, except the ceramic bezel is now very tight. As usual i returned to the AD and they said the bezel is perfect.

I mean its extremely tight ! They told me wear would make it a bit loose.

To avoid arguing, i decided to remove the bezel my self, and found the plastic oRing the one which secures the bezel the the watch is completly chewed, dinged, and deformed. Im postive this is the problem...

I have searched ebay and tons of www, and still cant find that little o-ring. Any ideas where can i find a replacement.


Thank you

[Alf_flash]

Its a 116613

[Old Expat Beast]

Where was it serviced? RSC?

[Alf_flash]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Where was it serviced? RSC?

Yes it was. But here you can o ly access rolex service via an AD, obiously my claim never got to the RSC.

[Old Expat Beast]

I think you'll need to get that part from an RSC too, and they'll want to install it themselves.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by Alf_flash

Yes it was. But here you can o ly access rolex service via an AD, obiously my claim never got to the RSC.

cant you just walk into the rsc from the street with your watch if it needs anything?

[REFZ]

How did you remove the ceramic bezel?

[gwozhog]

I would love to know how you removed it and ever better if you could post a video of how you installed a ceramic bezel with out smashing it into a thousand pieces.

[sheldonsmith]

Rolex has special tool for bezel removal, and a special press for reinstalling the bezel with the delrin retaining ring to secure it, and a special press for installing the ceramic ring into the bezel.

My watchmaker pal went to the AWCI training such that he can have access to the tools as well as the parts from Rolex.

The bezel shouldn't be tight. My guess is that a non-Rolex trained watchmaker did the work. Have the dealer send you watch to Rolex. All the AD need to do is take out a new model out of the display case, compare to yours, and it will be obvious as everyone knows that an RSC attempts to make any repair as good as new.

[tkerrmd]

ok you sent it in for service it came back with a mess up o ring, send it back!

[bondtoys]

Originally Posted by sheldonsmith

Rolex has special tool for bezel removal, and a special press for reinstalling the bezel with the nylon ring to secure it, and a special press for installing the ceramic ring into the bezel.

My watchmaker pal went to the AWCI training such that he can have access to the tools as well as the parts from Rolex.

The bezel shouldn't be tight. My guess is that a non-Rolex trained watchmaker did the work. Have the dealer send you watch to Rolex. All the AD need to do is take out a new model out of the display case, compare to yours, and it will be obvious as everyone knows that an RSC attempts to make any repair as good as new.

It's actually quite easy to remove the bezel.

I've never done it on my watch but I have some complete Submariner C bezels here and I could easily separate the retaining ring from the bezel and white teflon ring.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by gwozhog

I would love to know how you removed it and ever better if you could post a video of how you installed a ceramic bezel with out smashing it into a thousand pieces.

Plenty on YouTube, Rolex have a tool for the job but seen it done in the same manner as the previous generation alu bezels with a knife however the newer style use a delrin ring insert which is meant to be replaced when the bezels are removed/refitted, the vids do appear to see this ring being reused.

[watchwatcher]

I'm with Dr. Tom...send it back if you're not satisfied. I wouldn't be messing around with that ceramic bezel.

[Alf_flash]

http://youtu.be/snSEaxqs5hE

Super extra easy, no damage at all. If donde slowly and carefully its literally a 30 second job.

*****no force needs to be applied, just a minimal pinch and the bezel pops up.*****

***** beware of the springs that might fall, extremely small******

[BlofeldSpectre]

Special tool myth debunked never believed special tools were really needed - now where can I get hold of a blue ceramic bezel ;)

[REFZ]

The old bezels had a smal "spring" and I don't see that in the video.
The spring causes the clicks when turning the bezel.

Which part of the ceramic bezel does cause the clicks when turning the bezel?

[Alpino]

Originally Posted by REFZ

The old bezels had a smal "spring" and I don't see that in the video.
The spring causes the clicks when turning the bezel.

Which part of the ceramic bezel does cause the clicks when turning the bezel?

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by BlofeldSpectre

Special tool myth debunked never believed special tools were really needed - now where can I get hold of a blue ceramic bezel ;)

There are totally special tools needed! Did you see the special cleaning cloth at the end of that youtube video? ;)

To the OP, sounds like you should go back (or at least call) where you had the watched serviced, and demand they provide the new o-ring and have someone senior and competent do the work right in front of you. If there's any issue with that, bring it to RSC, tell them the story , obviously include the name of the AD, and see what they say.

Also, I would let the AD know that you have no intention of keeping this incident quiet and it's unacceptable the way they've handled this.

[Alf_flash]

Originally Posted by REFZ

The old bezels had a smal "spring" and I don't see that in the video.
The spring causes the clicks when turning the bezel.

Which part of the ceramic bezel does cause the clicks when turning the bezel?

The clicks are caused by a "one way unit" placed in the case, this makes the clicks and does t let the bezel rotate clockwise. newer models dont have the old type spring.

[Alf_flash]

Originally Posted by Alpino

Exactly !

[REFZ]

Thanks for the info about the "click" of the new ceramic bezel.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by Johny

cant you just walk into the rsc from the street with your watch if it needs anything?

this.

[Sublover2166]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I think you'll need to get that part from an RSC too, and they'll want to install it themselves.

Rolex won't even sell the Delrin retaining ring to indy watchmakers with Rolex parts accounts. Obviously the OP's watch did not go to RSC or that ring would have been replaced with a new one! His watch will need to go to RSC for a new retaining ring and bezel installation.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by BlofeldSpectre

Special tool myth debunked never believed special tools were really needed - now where can I get hold of a blue ceramic bezel ;)

Not so much special tools but they clearly have specific tools designed for the job guessing for speed, ease of use and reducing the risk of damage.

[JRepsol]

Originally Posted by Alpino

Alpino,

Do you know how I would be able to purchase parts H & D from the Fiche diagram. I hit the bezel against something and now the bezel turns both ways and I lost the pearl. Im ok with the missing pearl but I tried removing the bezel myself and ended up destroying the o-ring which I am pretty sure is part D. It seems like a fix I can do myself now that I see what is wrong but cannot find the parts I need.

Any advice?

[offrdmania]

Originally Posted by JRepsol

Alpino,

Do you know how I would be able to purchase parts H & D from the Fiche diagram. I hit the bezel against something and now the bezel turns both ways and I lost the pearl. Im ok with the missing pearl but I tried removing the bezel myself and ended up destroying the o-ring which I am pretty sure is part D. It seems like a fix I can do myself now that I see what is wrong but cannot find the parts I need.

Any advice?

You do realize the post is from almost 5 years ago right?

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by BlofeldSpectre

Special tool myth debunked never believed special tools were really needed - now where can I get hold of a blue ceramic bezel ;)

Haha. Oh, sourcing a blue dial and blue bezel would be sweet.