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doramas · 12 April 2015, 02:21 AM

For diary which is better? Sub 14060 vs Explorer 16570. Why?

AF_Rob · 12 April 2015, 02:28 AM

I own both and I prefer the 14060M. I think the Sub has a more comfortable bracelet and the 24 complication is not needed by me on a daily basis. Less is more sometimes. Though I do catch myself looking at the Sub for the date and saying to myself, "oh yeah..."

subtona · 12 April 2015, 02:33 AM

my two favorites and own both.

both are perfect for a daily wear, if i could only keep one it would be the sub because i use the heck out of the timing bezel.

sub is a bit more popular and recognizable.

do you want to time stuff for 60 minutes or have a 24 hour hand available?

AF_Rob · 12 April 2015, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

my two favorites and own both.

both are perfect for a daily wear, if i could only keep one it would be the sub because i use the heck out of the timing bezel.

sub is a bit more popular and recognizable.

do you want to time stuff for 60 minutes or have a 24 hour hand available?

Oh yeah! Totally forgot about how useful the rotating bezel can be! Parking in the city to steaks on the grill, any timing under an hour with that nifty device. Another tick for the Sub!

Evo6 · 12 April 2015, 02:52 AM

The GMT bezel can be used for timing as well, as long as you're not concerned with single minute accuracy.

tkerrmd · 12 April 2015, 03:22 AM

Prefer sub for bezel

Exclusivewatches · 12 April 2015, 03:23 AM

Sub due to bezel and over all wrist-appearance

FTX I · 12 April 2015, 03:55 AM

My favorite post on TRF: Sub

jcd · 12 April 2015, 04:32 AM

I'm going to have to go with the EXP II just because of the date feature. I use the date more than the I do the bezel to time things. Why not a 16610?

HogwldFLTR · 12 April 2015, 04:41 AM

I just like the appearance of the sub better. I own both however. But in general I tend to wear my 114060 over either of the others.

doramas · 12 April 2015, 08:11 AM

Thanks You companions

sea-dweller · 12 April 2015, 08:24 AM

I have both and like the versatility of the 16570 better.

fishingbear · 12 April 2015, 08:45 AM

I have to say the 16570. Very useful everyday and in travel.

subtona · 12 April 2015, 08:55 AM

2 favorites

Jack T · 12 April 2015, 09:09 AM

Love the one you're with...

The Libertine · 12 April 2015, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subtona

my two favorites and own both.

both are perfect for a daily wear, if i could only keep one it would be the sub because i use the heck out of the timing bezel.

sub is a bit more popular and recognizable.

do you want to time stuff for 60 minutes or have a 24 hour hand available?

Totally agree; I use the rotating bezel more than I could imagine.

Jason71 · 12 April 2015, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo6

The GMT bezel can be used for timing as well, as long as you're not concerned with single minute accuracy.

Not with the fixed 16570 bezel which is the watch being discussed

Evo6 · 12 April 2015, 01:41 PM

Ahh, got it.

DCheeta · 12 April 2015, 01:51 PM

14060 for me. It was my first love.

Rogue884 · 12 April 2015, 04:35 PM

Like the 14060 if those are the only two choices. However the new 216570 is a stunner and compliments my DSSD quite nicely.

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Gerardus · 12 April 2015, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack T

Love the one you're with...

Nice pic

roklee · 12 April 2015, 08:09 PM

Sub

Jari from Finland · 12 April 2015, 08:25 PM

I depends on for what purpose you need the watch. Those are namely
different watches. The Sub is for diving whereas with the EXP you may
check the time on other timezone. The time is easier to set on Sub with its
bigger crown but do you need the feature of checking the time on other timezone.

Mick P · 12 April 2015, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doramas

For diary which is better? Sub 14060 vs Explorer 16570. Why?

I have a 2003 Sub and a 1981 Freccione Explorer 2.

I prefer the Explorer because it is far more discreet and looks less "Rolexly".

Regards

Mick

RocketScience · 13 April 2015, 12:27 AM

16570: date, red gmt hand, smooth steel bezel and not a sub)

InmanHarry · 13 April 2015, 02:45 AM

14060 if I have to choose, but you cannot go wrong with the 16570 either.

Gerry62 · 13 April 2015, 04:33 AM

14060. My favorite and my choice

humphriespaul · 13 April 2015, 05:55 AM

My 2 cents worth - my first Rolex was this:

Which I was drawn to gor it's under the radar looks, GMT hand and a market level pre owned that I could, quite frankly, justify to myself......and I just couldn't bond with it, despite trying different strap combinations etc. I came to the conclusion that I really wanted a Sub. Not averse to the cyclops but the 14060 clean lines were a great appeal, so that's what I now have- and it hasn't left my wrist since it arrived. Completely displaced my Speedy pro and a mil issued G10 beater; they don't get a look in. So for me 14060(m) 2 line all the way.....

MCO1 · 13 April 2015, 10:25 AM

I like and have owned them both. I have to go with the Sub as my favorite since I am on my second one and the second is a keeper.

bde · 13 April 2015, 01:02 PM

Sub for me. I personally have no use for a GMT function.

12 April 2015, 02:21 AM	#1
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	14060 vs 16570 For diary which is better? Sub 14060 vs Explorer 16570. Why?

12 April 2015, 02:33 AM	#3
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,598	my two favorites and own both. both are perfect for a daily wear, if i could only keep one it would be the sub because i use the heck out of the timing bezel. sub is a bit more popular and recognizable. do you want to time stuff for 60 minutes or have a 24 hour hand available? __________________

12 April 2015, 04:41 AM	#10
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	I just like the appearance of the sub better. I own both however. But in general I tend to wear my 114060 over either of the others. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

12 April 2015, 08:24 AM	#12
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I have both and like the versatility of the 16570 better. __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

12 April 2015, 08:55 AM	#14
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,598	2 favorites Attached Images __________________

12 April 2015, 02:28 AM	#2
AF_Rob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Virginia Watch: Sub/Polar/OP/BB Posts: 4,671	I own both and I prefer the 14060M. I think the Sub has a more comfortable bracelet and the 24 complication is not needed by me on a daily basis. Less is more sometimes. Though I do catch myself looking at the Sub for the date and saying to myself, "oh yeah..."

12 April 2015, 02:52 AM	#5
Evo6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal Watch: BLNR55131675BB58 Posts: 829	The GMT bezel can be used for timing as well, as long as you're not concerned with single minute accuracy.

12 April 2015, 03:22 AM	#6
tkerrmd "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tom Location: In a race car! Watch: ME RACE PORSCHES Posts: 24,123	Prefer sub for bezel

12 April 2015, 03:23 AM	#7
Exclusivewatches Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: N/A Location: Antwerpen Watch: ING MY WIFE Posts: 734	Sub due to bezel and over all wrist-appearance

12 April 2015, 03:55 AM	#8
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	My favorite post on TRF: Sub

12 April 2015, 04:32 AM	#9
jcd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Jack Location: Wisconsin Watch: me vector Posts: 1,152	I'm going to have to go with the EXP II just because of the date feature. I use the date more than the I do the bezel to time things. Why not a 16610?

12 April 2015, 08:11 AM	#11
doramas Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 3,469	Thanks You companions

12 April 2015, 08:45 AM	#13
fishingbear 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: George Location: Alabama Watch: GMTsSubLVEx2SDDayt Posts: 4,548	I have to say the 16570. Very useful everyday and in travel.

12 April 2015, 09:09 AM	#15
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,719	Love the one you're with... Attached Images __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

12 April 2015, 01:41 PM	#18
Evo6 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: SoCal Watch: BLNR55131675BB58 Posts: 829	Ahh, got it.

12 April 2015, 01:51 PM	#19
DCheeta "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Dave Location: NYC Posts: 7,181	14060 for me. It was my first love.

12 April 2015, 04:35 PM	#20
Rogue884 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: Texas Watch: 216570 & 116660 Posts: 587	Like the 14060 if those are the only two choices. However the new 216570 is a stunner and compliments my DSSD quite nicely. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "The probability of anyone watching you do something is in direct proportion to the stupidity of what you are doing" - Warren Miller

12 April 2015, 08:09 PM	#22
roklee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: canada Watch: rolex explorer ii Posts: 493	Sub

12 April 2015, 08:25 PM	#23
Jari from Finland "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Finland Posts: 394	I depends on for what purpose you need the watch. Those are namely different watches. The Sub is for diving whereas with the EXP you may check the time on other timezone. The time is easier to set on Sub with its bigger crown but do you need the feature of checking the time on other timezone. __________________ "I am interested in watches, that's why I like them."

13 April 2015, 12:27 AM	#25
RocketScience "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Location Watch: 16570 Posts: 56	16570: date, red gmt hand, smooth steel bezel and not a sub)

13 April 2015, 02:45 AM	#26
InmanHarry "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Northeast Posts: 41	14060 if I have to choose, but you cannot go wrong with the 16570 either.

13 April 2015, 04:33 AM	#27
Gerry62 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Italy EU Watch: Rolex Panerai Posts: 7,502	14060. My favorite and my choice

13 April 2015, 05:55 AM	#28
humphriespaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: London, UK Posts: 51	My 2 cents worth - my first Rolex was this: Which I was drawn to gor it's under the radar looks, GMT hand and a market level pre owned that I could, quite frankly, justify to myself......and I just couldn't bond with it, despite trying different strap combinations etc. I came to the conclusion that I really wanted a Sub. Not averse to the cyclops but the 14060 clean lines were a great appeal, so that's what I now have- and it hasn't left my wrist since it arrived. Completely displaced my Speedy pro and a mil issued G10 beater; they don't get a look in. So for me 14060(m) 2 line all the way.....

13 April 2015, 10:25 AM	#29
MCO1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Missouri USA Watch: Daytona C white Posts: 2,248	I like and have owned them both. I have to go with the Sub as my favorite since I am on my second one and the second is a keeper.

13 April 2015, 01:02 PM	#30
bde "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Brad Location: Indiana Watch: -aholics anonymous Posts: 1,589	Sub for me. I personally have no use for a GMT function.

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