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PRH · 2 February 2006, 09:34 PM

I'm new to this forum and would welcome some help.

I currently have a bi-metal DateJust (that's the UK name for it) and am seriously thinking about getting an ExplorerII.

The question is should the watch that isn't being worn be kept fully wound to retain its accuracy?

Clearly I can hand wind the watch but if away on holiday etc. it would run down - will the stop/start affect the accuracy and is it worth purchasing an automatic watch winder?

I see that some of you guys have more than 1 Rolex, what do you do?

Many thanks.

padi56 · 2 February 2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PRH

I'm new to this forum and would welcome some help.

I currently have a bi-metal DateJust (that's the UK name for it) and am seriously thinking about getting an ExplorerII.

The question is should the watch that isn't being worn be kept fully wound to retain its accuracy?

Clearly I can hand wind the watch but if away on holiday etc. it would run down - will the stop/start affect the accuracy and is it worth purchasing an automatic watch winder?

I see that some of you guys have more than 1 Rolex, what do you do?

Many thanks.

Well PRH first welcome to TRF as to your question,well a watch winder is not really necessary when watches have only a date complication.Your watch will not loose any of its accuracy while start,stopped etc.When watch was taken from factory to the point of sale.It could have been stopped for many weeks or months.If you don't wear a watch,its a good idea to wind them,say once a
month.Watch winders can be quite expensive for a good model like Rapport or Obita.The modern oils now used in your Rolex,do not thicken like the older oils.Service intervals now after 5 years plus,and manual winding now and then,will not harm your watch.

PRH · 3 February 2006, 12:57 AM

Thanks for the answer and the welcome to the forum Padi56.

Well the deed is done I have just purchased the ExplorerII

Opted for the one with the white face (not to everyone's taste) but just love a white face on my Rolex.

My DateJust is my 3rd Rolex and comes with a white face and the gold Roman Numerals and the new jubilee hidden clasp bracelet

- just wished I could have justified a DayDate with a President Bracelet.

padi56 · 3 February 2006, 01:16 AM

Well as for myself not a huge Explorer 11 fan,but out of the two I much prefer the white dial.Like the GMT but my favourite is the SD prefer this type of bezel.Good luck with your new watch wear it in good health.

Rockrolex · 3 February 2006, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PRH

Thanks for the answer and the welcome to the forum Padi56.

Well the deed is done I have just purchased the ExplorerII

Opted for the one with the white face (not to everyone's taste) but just love a white face on my Rolex.

My DateJust is my 3rd Rolex and comes with a white face and the gold Roman Numerals and the new jubilee hidden clasp bracelet

- just wished I could have justified a DayDate with a President Bracelet.

Welcome to TRF, PRF.

Please stick around and join in the fun here. We're always looking for new blood to add to the enjoyment.

Love your DJ. I've got TT with white dial and gold raised Romans on a Jubilee bracelet (but the older one - my DJ is about a '91 vintage). Great watch.

Oh, and enjoy the EXP. The white dial EXP is not my personal favorite, but it's still a nice looking piece.

C.J. · 3 February 2006, 01:56 AM

PRH, welcome and congratulations on the new acquisition

You got yourself a beauty, I'm in favor of the white dial myself.

Wear it in the best of health, and do join us maybe even post some pic's.

Rockrolex · 3 February 2006, 01:58 AM

PRH, you might want to peruse this thread for a discussion of the pros and cons of winders.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...t=watch+winder

That will give you a little insight into various people's thinking about their value.

PRH · 3 February 2006, 02:12 AM

Thank you to everyone for your words of welcome and the comments on a watch winder.

I'll have a go at posting some pics when I get a chance to take some - will probably spend hours just looking at the new watch!

Rockrolex · 3 February 2006, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PRH

Thank you to everyone for your words of welcome and the comments on a watch winder.

I'll have a go at posting some pics when I get a chance to take some - will probably spend hours just looking at the new watch!

Absolutely post pics. We love to see pics of watches here (well except for certain orange things - they are forbidden

)

JJ Irani · 3 February 2006, 03:22 AM

Hi PRH,

A big welcome to TRF.

With just two watches, don't bother with a winder. You can alternate them between days and they'll still be running.

Good choice on the white Exp-II. I've got the black one at present, but the white one is good looking too.

Cheers - JJ

President Rolex · 3 February 2006, 07:18 PM

Love that white dial, that is my next one.

I have Orbita Winders, and they are wonderful.

You don't really need them, however, they are fun.

Congratulations on the Exp.II

Best,

The President

PRH · 3 February 2006, 08:31 PM

A big thank you for all your comments. I decided to get a watch winder as the shop was offerring a good price on one and it will fit in the safe! A requirement of the insurance company!!!!

I am off on holiday to Canada and the States in October - any chance of a "good" price on Rolex out there?

As an example the Explorer II was in the shop at £2560 that's around $4545US.

How does that compare?

3 February 2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRH

A big thank you for all your comments. I decided to get a watch winder as the shop was offerring a good price on one and it will fit in the safe! A requirement of the insurance company!!!!

I am off on holiday to Canada and the States in October - any chance of a "good" price on Rolex out there?

As an example the Explorer II was in the shop at £2560 that's around $4545US.

How does that compare?

You will be better off buying in the US than in Canada. Virtually every watch is more expensive here than in the states.......

3 February 2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalon

You will be better off buying in the US than in Canada. Virtually every watch is more expensive here than in the states.......

Agreed. The Explorer II now lists in Canada for CDN$6050 plus 15% tax, no discounts. That's almost $7K! Much better deals to be had in the US.

JJ Irani · 4 February 2006, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Agreed. The Explorer II now lists in Canada for CDN$6050 plus 15% tax, no discounts. That's almost $7K! Much better deals to be had in the US.

What a rip off, Johnny!!

Mansor's can give me a BNIB Exp-II for just NZ$5,700 = US$3,990 out-the-door. Take it out the country, and you get an even sweeter deal, tax free!!

4 February 2006, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

What a rip off, Johnny!!

Mansor's can give me a BNIB Exp-II for just NZ$5,700 = US$3,990 out-the-door. Take it out the country, and you get an even sweeter deal, tax free!!

Well it is a ripoff. And we can thank our federal government for provide such high excise taxes and import tarrifs for these high prices. The problem is, if you buy out of country and claim it when re-entering, you get nailed. If you don't claim it and get caught, they either take it away or let you have it, charge you the excise and taxes and fine you. OR... you could get it past the customs folks and be a happy chappy.

I've read a few stories of guys wearing the watch back to Canada and shipping the boxes via courier, but customs have opened the boxes and charged the taxes/excise on the cost of a new watch, even if there isn't a watch in the box.

Launch Mini · 4 February 2006, 04:47 AM

Import duty on Mechanical Swiss watches ( coming to Canada from USA) is 5%, then the 14 or 15% ( depending on the province).
They don't even supply the Lube at customs.

JJ Irani · 4 February 2006, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Well it is a ripoff. And we can thank our federal government for provide such high excise taxes and import tarrifs for these high prices. The problem is, if you buy out of country and claim it when re-entering, you get nailed. If you don't claim it and get caught, they either take it away or let you have it, charge you the excise and taxes and fine you. OR... you could get it past the customs folks and be a happy chappy.

I've read a few stories of guys wearing the watch back to Canada and shipping the boxes via courier, but customs have opened the boxes and charged the taxes/excise on the cost of a new watch, even if there isn't a watch in the box.

That really sucks, Johnny. Terrible!!

One more reason why you guys need to move over to NZ!!

4 February 2006, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Launch Mini

Import duty on Mechanical Swiss watches ( coming to Canada from USA) is 5%, then the 14 or 15% ( depending on the province).
They don't even supply the Lube at customs.

To give an example, when I 'imported' my black leather strap from the US, the strap cost me US$30 plus $10 for shipping so all in all, about CDN$50.

Customs gave me a bill for almost $15 in taxes, excise and 'handling'. My high income taxes, plus my freakishly high property taxes, you'd think they'd get enough of my money.

I guess the T4 should say: 'How much did you make last year?'
'Send it all in.'

4 February 2006, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

That really sucks, Johnny. Terrible!!

One more reason why you guys need to move over to NZ!!

JJ, while that is a problem, the main advantage to living in Canada is that it's really, really, really, really far away from New Zealand.

JJ Irani · 4 February 2006, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

JJ, while that is a problem, the main advantage to living in Canada is that it's really, really, really, really far away from New Zealand.

...and I always thought you liked me!!

4 February 2006, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

...and I always thought you liked me!!

JJ, if I stop ribbing you, that's when you should get worried.

JJ Irani · 4 February 2006, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

JJ, if I stop ribbing you, that's when you should get worried.

Don't I know you by now...after all these years!!

4 February 2006, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Don't I know you by now...after all these years!!

Yeah... and I'm still only #3. Dammit, I should be an untouchable #1 for years of loyaty alone.

JJ Irani · 4 February 2006, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Yeah... and I'm still only #3. Dammit, I should be an untouchable #1 for years of loyaty alone.

You are #1 in my heart, my good friend!!

4 February 2006, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You are #1 in my heart, my good friend!!

3 February 2006, 01:16 AM	#4
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,062	Well as for myself not a huge Explorer 11 fan,but out of the two I much prefer the white dial.Like the GMT but my favourite is the SD prefer this type of bezel.Good luck with your new watch wear it in good health. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

3 February 2006, 01:58 AM	#7
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 37,967	PRH, you might want to peruse this thread for a discussion of the pros and cons of winders. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...t=watch+winder That will give you a little insight into various people's thinking about their value. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

3 February 2006, 03:22 AM	#10
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Hi PRH, A big welcome to TRF. With just two watches, don't bother with a winder. You can alternate them between days and they'll still be running. Good choice on the white Exp-II. I've got the black one at present, but the white one is good looking too. Cheers - JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

4 February 2006, 04:47 AM	#17
Launch Mini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Real Name: John Location: Canada, eh Watch: can I? Posts: 6,240	Import duty on Mechanical Swiss watches ( coming to Canada from USA) is 5%, then the 14 or 15% ( depending on the province). They don't even supply the Lube at customs. __________________ Something witty to go here. Member # 293

2 February 2006, 09:34 PM	#1
PRH "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: UK Watch: WG DD Posts: 179	Watch Winder I'm new to this forum and would welcome some help. I currently have a bi-metal DateJust (that's the UK name for it) and am seriously thinking about getting an ExplorerII. The question is should the watch that isn't being worn be kept fully wound to retain its accuracy? Clearly I can hand wind the watch but if away on holiday etc. it would run down - will the stop/start affect the accuracy and is it worth purchasing an automatic watch winder? I see that some of you guys have more than 1 Rolex, what do you do? Many thanks. Last edited by PRH; 2 February 2006 at 09:56 PM..

3 February 2006, 12:57 AM	#3
PRH "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: UK Watch: WG DD Posts: 179	Thanks for the answer and the welcome to the forum Padi56. Well the deed is done I have just purchased the ExplorerII Opted for the one with the white face (not to everyone's taste) but just love a white face on my Rolex. My DateJust is my 3rd Rolex and comes with a white face and the gold Roman Numerals and the new jubilee hidden clasp bracelet - just wished I could have justified a DayDate with a President Bracelet. Last edited by PRH; 3 February 2006 at 01:00 AM..

3 February 2006, 01:56 AM	#6
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	PRH, welcome and congratulations on the new acquisition You got yourself a beauty, I'm in favor of the white dial myself. Wear it in the best of health, and do join us maybe even post some pic's.

3 February 2006, 02:12 AM	#8
PRH "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: UK Watch: WG DD Posts: 179	Thank you to everyone for your words of welcome and the comments on a watch winder. I'll have a go at posting some pics when I get a chance to take some - will probably spend hours just looking at the new watch!

3 February 2006, 07:18 PM	#11
President Rolex Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Palm Springs, CA, Posts: 119	Love that white dial, that is my next one. I have Orbita Winders, and they are wonderful. You don't really need them, however, they are fun. Congratulations on the Exp.II Best, The President

3 February 2006, 08:31 PM	#12
PRH "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: UK Watch: WG DD Posts: 179	A big thank you for all your comments. I decided to get a watch winder as the shop was offerring a good price on one and it will fit in the safe! A requirement of the insurance company!!!! I am off on holiday to Canada and the States in October - any chance of a "good" price on Rolex out there? As an example the Explorer II was in the shop at £2560 that's around $4545US. How does that compare?

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