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kingblackbolt · 4 February 2006, 01:43 PM

Hey all,

I've been offered to buy an Omega Seamaster 2255.80 in 90% condition (by Timezone standards) for $950.00 It comes with all boxes, cards, hang tag & all bracelet links. This person has an Ebay account with 12 positives all buying.
He says he is not set up to accept Paypal but tells me that he has been told that a USPS money order is the safest for both parties, in that if a seller reneges on a deal, it is a federal offense.
Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? As a Canadian could I even go after someone who reneges on a USPS money order in the USA?

Any advice is as always greatly appreciated...
REN

C.J. · 4 February 2006, 02:26 PM

I've dealt with this sort of thing in the past. Nothing involving a personal purchase, rather cases involving theft and or fraud with mailed payments. A USPS money order is very easy to cash. A $5 fake ID can get it cashed for you at any check casing place. As far as it being a federal crime, it is, if the feds decide to take it. Otherwise it will be remanded locally to the jurisdiction where the money order was sent and or cashed. The USPS can trace the money order right to the check cashing place and wala! a fake ID for John Doe. As long as the guy that cashes it is anything but a complete moron he is almost impossible to catch. A USPS money order is as good as cash. Almost anybody will cash it as long as it's authentic.
As far as dealing with e-bay, unfortunately I have done this also. Once an incredible amount of effort is spent and a subpoena is obtained e-bay releases to your case Detective enough information to let you know that they do not require any type of credible ID to accept a seller as who they say they are. basically if they want to rob you they can and pretty much get away with it.
I'm not saying that the seller is dis credible. He may be a saint for all I know. but I have handled several cases involving e-bay, as well as, several methods of payments being involved. Unfortunately a USPS money order is one of the most difficult to trace to an actual identity because it is almost as good as cash and almost everyone will accept them.

mailman · 4 February 2006, 07:24 PM

So the cops are robbing money orders now?

kingblackbolt · 4 February 2006, 11:54 PM

CJ

Thanx for the advice, it's as I suspected, there would be no way really for me to recoupe any of my $$$ if he decided to disappear with it if I end a USPS... I'll tell him that I want an Ebay auction made and that the money will be sent via Paypal or nothing at all. I asked him about escrow as well, so we'll have to see... he is a Timezoner as well so I'll get his ID from there and check him out a little more before he's sees a cent..

C.J. · 5 February 2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kingblackbolt

CJ

Thanx for the advice, it's as I suspected, there would be no way really for me to recoupe any of my $$$ if he decided to disappear with it if I end a USPS... I'll tell him that I want an Ebay auction made and that the money will be sent via Paypal or nothing at all. I asked him about escrow as well, so we'll have to see... he is a Timezoner as well so I'll get his ID from there and check him out a little more before he's sees a cent..

No worries mate, I'm not British, but that just sounds so cool

Any time my man, I hope it helped.

C.J. · 5 February 2006, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mailman

So the cops are robbing money orders now?

Yeah!

By the way, I'm out. Can you send me some more A.S.A.P.

By the way, ASAP means As Soon As Possible! Opposite the speed at which you deliver your mail

mailman · 5 February 2006, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

Opposite the speed at which you deliver your mail

Same speed as you guys drop your donughts and hookers to go on a call

C.J. · 5 February 2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman

Same speed as you guys drop your donughts and hookers to go on a call

You gotta be careful dropping hookers, you could loose a finger

4 February 2006, 01:43 PM	#1
kingblackbolt "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Ren Location: Toronto On Canada Posts: 1,886	Could I ask some advice on a watch offer & a USPS money order? Hey all, I've been offered to buy an Omega Seamaster 2255.80 in 90% condition (by Timezone standards) for $950.00 It comes with all boxes, cards, hang tag & all bracelet links. This person has an Ebay account with 12 positives all buying. He says he is not set up to accept Paypal but tells me that he has been told that a USPS money order is the safest for both parties, in that if a seller reneges on a deal, it is a federal offense. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? As a Canadian could I even go after someone who reneges on a USPS money order in the USA? Any advice is as always greatly appreciated... REN __________________ “Hail to the king, baby" Ash (Army of Darkness 1992)

4 February 2006, 02:26 PM	#2
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	I've dealt with this sort of thing in the past. Nothing involving a personal purchase, rather cases involving theft and or fraud with mailed payments. A USPS money order is very easy to cash. A $5 fake ID can get it cashed for you at any check casing place. As far as it being a federal crime, it is, if the feds decide to take it. Otherwise it will be remanded locally to the jurisdiction where the money order was sent and or cashed. The USPS can trace the money order right to the check cashing place and wala! a fake ID for John Doe. As long as the guy that cashes it is anything but a complete moron he is almost impossible to catch. A USPS money order is as good as cash. Almost anybody will cash it as long as it's authentic. As far as dealing with e-bay, unfortunately I have done this also. Once an incredible amount of effort is spent and a subpoena is obtained e-bay releases to your case Detective enough information to let you know that they do not require any type of credible ID to accept a seller as who they say they are. basically if they want to rob you they can and pretty much get away with it. I'm not saying that the seller is dis credible. He may be a saint for all I know. but I have handled several cases involving e-bay, as well as, several methods of payments being involved. Unfortunately a USPS money order is one of the most difficult to trace to an actual identity because it is almost as good as cash and almost everyone will accept them. __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there Last edited by C.J.; 4 February 2006 at 05:12 PM..

4 February 2006, 07:24 PM	#3
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,510	So the cops are robbing money orders now? __________________ JJ

4 February 2006, 11:54 PM	#4
kingblackbolt "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Ren Location: Toronto On Canada Posts: 1,886	CJ Thanx for the advice, it's as I suspected, there would be no way really for me to recoupe any of my $$$ if he decided to disappear with it if I end a USPS... I'll tell him that I want an Ebay auction made and that the money will be sent via Paypal or nothing at all. I asked him about escrow as well, so we'll have to see... he is a Timezoner as well so I'll get his ID from there and check him out a little more before he's sees a cent.. __________________ “Hail to the king, baby" Ash (Army of Darkness 1992)

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