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DR.Golf · 28 June 2015, 03:52 AM

I have decided I 'need' one of these. However, I am stuck, do I get a chrono or a dual time? Or which option, strap or bracelet? Which colour?

This is tough, I have so many other watches I am not trying to fill any holes just want the best option. I don't want a gold, titanium looks good, the new novelty chrono look great too.

I have now seen a couple in the wild an just gotta get one!

What say the collective?

watchucallit · 28 June 2015, 04:02 AM

I think both are great choices. I have a number of dual time/GMT pieces and chronos-- two of my favorite complications. I own the VC overseas chrono. I don't like the dual time layout as much. I generally don't care about lack of symmetry but this one bothers me a bit. As a chrono-- the VC is a really nice size-- smaller and thiner than most. In terms of the dial--- this drove me nuts trying to choose. I ilke all of the various dial colors. In the end I choose the "grey". I believe this is the only one that is titanium -- but it is only partially titanium and does not have a great affect on the weight. I have no regrets about the chrono vs dual time--- I looked at both.. but I still consider if the white, black or even blue worthy options and think about whether I should have gone with a different option.

The steel bracelet is not an option for the grey titanium but i picked that up separately.

jjnd08 · 28 June 2015, 04:37 AM

Chrono for me. Tried it on about 2 wks back. It's so nice!

capote · 28 June 2015, 05:06 AM

I would wait to next year, a redesign with an inhouse movement is likely to come.

watchucallit · 28 June 2015, 05:12 AM

Possible but they said the same thing now for at least the last year or two

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

I would wait to next year, a redesign with an inhouse movement is likely to come.

GB-man · 28 June 2015, 05:53 AM

This one!

Love the ti.

PJ S · 28 June 2015, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capote

I would wait to next year, a redesign with an inhouse movement is likely to come.

Along with a serious hike in price (and service cost) - just buy pre-owned now and enjoy for a while, and if the new model ever materialises and is better looking, make a move on it then.

Constantine · 28 June 2015, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by watchucallit

Possible but they said the same thing now for at least the last year or two

I am not sure from where you heard this for the previous years, but it is official for next year. There is no guarantee that the inhouse movement will be an better though, I am not terribly impressed with the harmony.

To the original poll question: chrono for me, it is one of my favourite chrono designs. The two novelties are the best dials, but I love the overseas bracelet. I am not sure if it compatible, so you get both strap and bracelet? If not, it would be very hard for me to chose between white dial with bracelet or one of the two novelties with strap.

jjnd08 · 28 June 2015, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ S

Along with a serious hike in price (and service cost) - just buy pre-owned now and enjoy for a while, and if the new model ever materialises and is better looking, make a move on it then.

Agreed.

subtona · 28 June 2015, 08:18 AM

Demonoid · 28 June 2015, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

This one!

Love the ti.

That's the one to get.

Racerdj · 28 June 2015, 09:28 PM

[Excellent
QUOTE=GB-man;5941046]This one!

Love the ti.[/QUOTE]

Constantine · 28 June 2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

That's the one to get.

Have you actually seen the 9015 novelty mentioned in the poll? I think there is no comparison with the old ti.

cervantes · 28 June 2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Constantine

I am not sure from where you heard this for the previous years, but it is official for next year. There is no guarantee that the inhouse movement will be an better though, I am not terribly impressed with the harmony.

To the original poll question: chrono for me, it is one of my favourite chrono designs. The two novelties are the best dials, but I love the overseas bracelet. I am not sure if it compatible, so you get both strap and bracelet? If not, it would be very hard for me to chose between white dial with bracelet or one of the two novelties with strap.

If you don't mind me asking, regarding the Harmony, are you not so impressed with the movement or the actual watches that were released?

Constantine · 28 June 2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cervantes

If you don't mind me asking, regarding the Harmony, are you not so impressed with the movement or the actual watches that were released?

I like the watches a lot and wish I could afford the grand complication/split chrono! I think the movements are great for the Harmony watches, but maybe not the best for a sports watch like the Overseas. The priority has been to make them as thin and elegant as possible, but this has resulted in compromises (lateral clutch, 3Hz frequency).

Also my guess is that the Overseas will use the movement from the Harmony chrono which a mono pusher that I don't like as much. There might be an Overseas split chrono as well, but this will probably be out of my reach anyway. Let's wait until January to see what they come up with, we might be pleasantly surprised.

cervantes · 28 June 2015, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constantine

I like the watches a lot and wish I could afford the grand complication/split chrono! I think the movements are great for the Harmony watches, but maybe not the best for a sports watch like the Overseas. The priority has been to make them as thin and elegant as possible, but this has resulted in compromises (lateral clutch, 3Hz frequency).

Also my guess is that the Overseas will use the movement from the Harmony chrono which a mono pusher that I don't like as much. There might be an Overseas split chrono as well, but this will probably be out of my reach anyway. Let's wait until January to see what they come up with, we might be pleasantly surprised.

Yes, I was wondering about the mono-pusher for the Overseas. I'm assuming the dual-time movement will be used too, though the layout of the dials is different than the current JLC movement. The clutch also surprised me. And since Mr. Torres did say the chronograph movement will be in the new Overseas I wonder how they will implement it.

I don't think we've seen an automatic three-hand yet. VC really must get that movement out and into the Patrimony automatic line.

DR.Golf · 29 June 2015, 12:54 AM

From my understanding VC is trying to keep the price increase to a minimum but will likely be at a minimum 25%. This is one reason why I think now may be a good time to acquire one of these.

The new pricing may assist to retain the value going forward.

cervantes · 29 June 2015, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR.Golf

From my understanding VC is trying to keep the price increase to a minimum but will likely be at a minimum 25%. This is one reason why I think now may be a good time to acquire one of these.

The new pricing may assist to retain the value going forward.

I can't imagine they'll price it higher than the equivalent AP's.

Constantine · 29 June 2015, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR.Golf

From my understanding VC is trying to keep the price increase to a minimum but will likely be at a minimum 25%. This is one reason why I think now may be a good time to acquire one of these.

The new pricing may assist to retain the value going forward.

Yes, price wise it makes sense. In addition to the price rise, the current Overseas can easily be found at around 30% discount right now whereas it could take a long time for the next one to be discounted. So the price gap will be a lot more than 25%.

Constantine · 29 June 2015, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cervantes

I can't imagine they'll price it higher than the equivalent AP's.

I don't know, the AP is still using the FP caliber 1185, so I wouldn't be surprised if the new Overseas is more expensive as it would have this additional "selling point".

cervantes · 29 June 2015, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constantine

I don't know, the AP is still using the FP caliber 1185, so I wouldn't be surprised if the new Overseas is more expensive as it would have this additional "selling point".

cervantes · 29 June 2015, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constantine

I don't know, the AP is still using the FP caliber 1185, so I wouldn't be surprised if the new Overseas is more expensive as it would have this additional "selling point".

I do hope they keep the anti-magnetic case and 150m WR, as those are two excellent selling points against RO.

DR.Golf · 29 June 2015, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constantine

Have you actually seen the 9015 novelty mentioned in the poll? I think there is no comparison with the old ti.

In the pics it looks great! The white looks great but not sure how legible the white would be for someone who needs readers.

If you have seen it please expand.

watchucallit · 29 June 2015, 06:11 AM

I just was stating there were a number of rumors over the last few years about this release. I did not know it is official for next year

Quote:

Originally Posted by Constantine

I am not sure from where you heard this for the previous years, but it is official for next year. There is no guarantee that the inhouse movement will be an better though, I am not terribly impressed with the harmony.

To the original poll question: chrono for me, it is one of my favourite chrono designs. The two novelties are the best dials, but I love the overseas bracelet. I am not sure if it compatible, so you get both strap and bracelet? If not, it would be very hard for me to chose between white dial with bracelet or one of the two novelties with strap.

Manofsteelpt · 29 June 2015, 06:57 AM

If you need/want a blue themed watch, the blue dial Chrono on strap is a beauty. If not, the silver Chrono on bracelet is more versatile and quite nice too.
Have you tried on the bracelet? For ME, I didn't think it was very comfy, when I had mine but many love the comfort level of it.

Igor01 · 29 June 2015, 11:44 AM

I've had my Deep Stream Chrono for close to two years now and as much as I still love its reserved understated look (and the comfort of the rubber strap as well as the absolutely mind-blowing ability to resist any kind of scratches and marks), I like the idea of the new novelty 9015 with the yellow hands and marks. An elegant and measured colour accent does this watch good (that's why I voted for this model). Although I would have preferred to keep white seconds chrono markers on the dial. And I'd change the hands colour to a bit more orange-ish rather than just yellow.

I also love the silver/white chrono model but it may be too extroverted in some situations due to the polished bezel and steel bracelet. Still, a gorgeous look with a serious wrist presence if that's what you are looking for.

Curious to find out what you end up selecting :)

cervantes · 29 June 2015, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR.Golf

In the pics it looks great! The white looks great but not sure how legible the white would be for someone who needs readers.

If you have seen it please expand.

I found the white dial to be pretty legible as it has large hands. Certainly better than the RO in white.

DR.Golf · 5 July 2015, 02:59 PM

ARRGGGHH

I still can't decide strap or bracelet,this is tough.

jjnd08 · 5 July 2015, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DR.Golf

ARRGGGHH

I still can't decide strap or bracelet,this is tough.

Can't you buy the strap separately?

improviz · 6 July 2015, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jjnd08

Can't you buy the strap separately?

Yes. When in doubt or when you want both, always buy watch on bracelet because it usually costs a lot more coin to buy a bracelet after the fact than the price difference between the bracelet/non-bracelet versions new.

View Poll Results: Which overseas
Duel time titanium	13	22.81%
Duel time bracelet white dial	7	12.28%
Chrono novelty 9015	6	10.53%
Chrono blue dial strap	7	12.28%
Chrono bracelet	24	42.11%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

28 June 2015, 03:52 AM	#1
DR.Golf "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 395	Vacheron Overseas I have decided I 'need' one of these. However, I am stuck, do I get a chrono or a dual time? Or which option, strap or bracelet? Which colour? This is tough, I have so many other watches I am not trying to fill any holes just want the best option. I don't want a gold, titanium looks good, the new novelty chrono look great too. I have now seen a couple in the wild an just gotta get one! What say the collective?

28 June 2015, 04:37 AM	#3
jjnd08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: United States Posts: 8,615	Chrono for me. Tried it on about 2 wks back. It's so nice! __________________ ---------------------- Instagram: watchesandchickensandwiches

28 June 2015, 05:53 AM	#6
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	This one! Love the ti. __________________

28 June 2015, 09:28 PM	#12
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	[Excellent QUOTE=GB-man;5941046]This one! Love the ti.[/QUOTE] __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

28 June 2015, 04:02 AM	#2
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,218	I think both are great choices. I have a number of dual time/GMT pieces and chronos-- two of my favorite complications. I own the VC overseas chrono. I don't like the dual time layout as much. I generally don't care about lack of symmetry but this one bothers me a bit. As a chrono-- the VC is a really nice size-- smaller and thiner than most. In terms of the dial--- this drove me nuts trying to choose. I ilke all of the various dial colors. In the end I choose the "grey". I believe this is the only one that is titanium -- but it is only partially titanium and does not have a great affect on the weight. I have no regrets about the chrono vs dual time--- I looked at both.. but I still consider if the white, black or even blue worthy options and think about whether I should have gone with a different option. The steel bracelet is not an option for the grey titanium but i picked that up separately.

28 June 2015, 05:06 AM	#4
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	I would wait to next year, a redesign with an inhouse movement is likely to come.

28 June 2015, 08:18 AM	#10
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,598

29 June 2015, 12:54 AM	#17
DR.Golf "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 395	From my understanding VC is trying to keep the price increase to a minimum but will likely be at a minimum 25%. This is one reason why I think now may be a good time to acquire one of these. The new pricing may assist to retain the value going forward.

29 June 2015, 06:57 AM	#25
Manofsteelpt "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 3,971	If you need/want a blue themed watch, the blue dial Chrono on strap is a beauty. If not, the silver Chrono on bracelet is more versatile and quite nice too. Have you tried on the bracelet? For ME, I didn't think it was very comfy, when I had mine but many love the comfort level of it.

29 June 2015, 11:44 AM	#26
Igor01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Canada Watch: AP Royal Oak 15400 Posts: 82	I've had my Deep Stream Chrono for close to two years now and as much as I still love its reserved understated look (and the comfort of the rubber strap as well as the absolutely mind-blowing ability to resist any kind of scratches and marks), I like the idea of the new novelty 9015 with the yellow hands and marks. An elegant and measured colour accent does this watch good (that's why I voted for this model). Although I would have preferred to keep white seconds chrono markers on the dial. And I'd change the hands colour to a bit more orange-ish rather than just yellow. I also love the silver/white chrono model but it may be too extroverted in some situations due to the polished bezel and steel bracelet. Still, a gorgeous look with a serious wrist presence if that's what you are looking for. Curious to find out what you end up selecting :)

5 July 2015, 02:59 PM	#28
DR.Golf "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 395	ARRGGGHH I still can't decide strap or bracelet,this is tough.

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