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VAWATCHGUY · 11 August 2015, 06:48 AM

looking for some help. From the U.S. traveling on vacation in Barcelona for two weeks. Went into a Rolex AD here to see what they had in stock and what the prices were. Deals seem very good, which made me question myself. So looking for feedback. Black/Blue GMT for €7850, and she says I will get back 17% VAT at the airport, bringing it to €6537. This is far less than what I could get it for in the US. Submariner date for €7500 and no-date for €6600, both with 17% VAT refunds, again, far cheaper than US. Am I missing something or is this just truly a great deal??? Help appreciated.

VAWATCHGUY · 11 August 2015, 06:49 AM

Sorry, meant Spain

Oyster99 · 11 August 2015, 06:50 AM

Truly a great deal if you can ship the box&papers seperatly i believe

fabini · 11 August 2015, 11:31 AM

believe me with the Euro losing so much value against the dollar and Spain in such dire straits,its no surprise at all that you're getting those prices.and if you push a little more they might even give you an extra discount. its a no brainer

watchwatcher · 11 August 2015, 11:51 AM

Sounds good.

red1108nyc · 11 August 2015, 11:52 AM

Good deal. Take it down.

roadsterdoc · 11 August 2015, 03:05 PM

Go for it. Spain and Italy are excellent places to buy Rolexes at the moment. Euro to dollar exchange rate coupled with the local economy makes for a situation that is in your favor. It's been many years since Americans have had such an opportunity in Europe. Take advantage of it.

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Gaijin · 11 August 2015, 03:25 PM

Sounds great, do it. For so long traveling to Europe was expensive for Americans. We both remember probably how strong the Euro used to be. The Yen too for that matter. A few years back the Yen was 78 to the Dollar. Now it's nearly 125. I'd get that GMT!

Mick P · 11 August 2015, 06:51 PM

Chaps

I live in both England and in Spain and believe me, Spain is really cheap at the moment due to the weak euro.

Also Spanish dealers expect you to haggle as it is part of the culture and thanks to the recession which is still hitting hard in Spain, discounts are easily achievable.

Regards

Mick

zama · 11 August 2015, 07:34 PM

Haggle to get some more and ship empty box back separately

MonBK · 11 August 2015, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zama

Haggle to get some more and ship empty box back separately

Why?

fusionstorm · 11 August 2015, 08:07 PM

^^^ For those who want to avoid paying duty to US Customs upon their return, it's easier to just wear the watch alone and have no accessories if they happen to search your luggage. The rationale (rightfully so) being that no one travels with the box, guarantee card and accessories.

Gaijin · 11 August 2015, 08:56 PM

I would claim it. Most likely your honesty with US Customs will go a long way. I suspect that after being lied to daily and people trying to sneak things past them constantly that your honesty would be refreshing. They might not even make you pay duties.

If you lie and get caught... well..

I really wish that this constant get around customs lawbreaking advice was prohibited in a forum rule.

You get a great deal and we will celebrate with you.

MonBK · 11 August 2015, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaijin

I would claim it. Most likely your honesty with US Customs will go a long way. I suspect that after being lied to daily and people trying to sneak things past them constantly that your honesty would be refreshing. They might not even make you pay duties.

If you lie and get caught... well..

I really wish that this constant get around customs lawbreaking advice was prohibited in a forum rule.

You get a great deal and we will celebrate with you.

Exactly

See this thread: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=427558

ROLEXUS · 11 August 2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VAWATCHGUY

looking for some help. From the U.S. traveling on vacation in Barcelona for two weeks. Went into a Rolex AD here to see what they had in stock and what the prices were. Deals seem very good, which made me question myself. So looking for feedback. Black/Blue GMT for €7850, and she says I will get back 17% VAT at the airport, bringing it to €6537. This is far less than what I could get it for in the US. Submariner date for €7500 and no-date for €6600, both with 17% VAT refunds, again, far cheaper than US. Am I missing something or is this just truly a great deal??? Help appreciated.

For an even better deal, find an AD who will give you the full 21% VAT refund rather than using a refund company who also take a cut (hence 17% net to you). Then bargain hard and you should get up to 10% off for SS. I reckon you could get a sub date for 5600Euro.

brandrea · 11 August 2015, 09:18 PM

Great deal. You're USD goes along at in most countries these days. Go for it

Mak2013 · 11 August 2015, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaijin

I would claim it. Most likely your honesty with US Customs will go a long way. I suspect that after being lied to daily and people trying to sneak things past them constantly that your honesty would be refreshing. They might not even make you pay duties.

If you lie and get caught... well..

I really wish that this constant get around customs lawbreaking advice was prohibited in a forum rule.

You get a great deal and we will celebrate with you.

This.
I claimed Sub date at customs and only paid $180 in duties.
Honesty goes along way.

Duty is calculated on material and movement not the price.
Remember, lying to federal agents is a felony

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Vanmarsenille · 16 September 2015, 07:55 AM

Just returned from a 2 week vacation in Spain, where we purchased a Steel/Everose 36mm Datejust for my wife. Great price, too. We claimed the watch on customs form and were waived right through, no duty to pay.

qhbl · 16 September 2015, 02:09 PM

Seriously, many members here should've collected enough honesty to pay for a new watch by now?

Doesn't work does it?

I'd be very surprised if anybody bothers you over a "personal-affect" item? Wear your "second-hand" watch when walking past the customs. ;)

GB-man · 16 September 2015, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qhbl

Seriously, many members here should've collected enough honesty to pay for a new watch by now?

Doesn't work does it?

I'd be very surprised if anybody bothers you over a "personal-affect" item? Wear your "second-hand" watch when walking past the customs. ;)

BS some of us don't have to play smuggler while buying watches. I claim all mine that I buy in Canada and have yet to be charged the duty.

If they want to charge me, so be it. I negotiate the duty into the price when I buy at the AD.

Many people are crossing international borders with family etc and that's no time to be playing games with customs.

zama · 16 September 2015, 02:48 PM

It would appear the customs impact varies between countries, in Australia you pay full GST 10% of the value of the watch in Australia. No negotiation, no ifs or buts...... If I was being asked to pay $180 on bringing a duty free item into my country I would do it every day of the week..........

CrookedOak · 25 September 2015, 02:11 PM

What is the average discount percentage to be had in Barcelona? I saw a dealer this afternoon that I will visit tomorrow (Tous - Passeig de Gracia).

Were you able to get VAT paid at the airport?

11 August 2015, 06:48 AM	#1
VAWATCHGUY "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Philadelphia Watch: DSSD Posts: 188	Good deal in Spain??? looking for some help. From the U.S. traveling on vacation in Barcelona for two weeks. Went into a Rolex AD here to see what they had in stock and what the prices were. Deals seem very good, which made me question myself. So looking for feedback. Black/Blue GMT for €7850, and she says I will get back 17% VAT at the airport, bringing it to €6537. This is far less than what I could get it for in the US. Submariner date for €7500 and no-date for €6600, both with 17% VAT refunds, again, far cheaper than US. Am I missing something or is this just truly a great deal??? Help appreciated.

11 August 2015, 06:50 AM	#3
Oyster99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Kris Location: Holland Watch: me go Posts: 730	Truly a great deal if you can ship the box&papers seperatly i believe __________________ Instagram watchpage: k99app, feel free to follow me ;) 17014 - oysterquartz Corniche Mistral40 Regards.

11 August 2015, 07:34 PM	#10
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,808	Haggle to get some more and ship empty box back separately __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

11 August 2015, 08:07 PM	#12
fusionstorm "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Piedmont, CA Watch: various vintage Posts: 2,272	^^^ For those who want to avoid paying duty to US Customs upon their return, it's easier to just wear the watch alone and have no accessories if they happen to search your luggage. The rationale (rightfully so) being that no one travels with the box, guarantee card and accessories. __________________ 1680 MK II 2.2M (my daily); 1655 MK IV 8.1M (my 1st vintage); 16660 x 4 - 8.0M spider & matte 7.4M, 8.0M, 8.0M; 16610LV F MK I/MK I; 116528 Z; 14060 M COSC; Tudor 75090 Gone.....never forgotten: 14000 F, 14060 V COSC, PAM 048, 16623 F, 1680 MK V 3.1M, 16800 matte 8.3M & 1655 MK IV 7.4M

16 September 2015, 02:48 PM	#21
zama "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Craig Location: Sydney Watch: 4 Broken glass Posts: 5,808	It would appear the customs impact varies between countries, in Australia you pay full GST 10% of the value of the watch in Australia. No negotiation, no ifs or buts...... If I was being asked to pay $180 on bringing a duty free item into my country I would do it every day of the week.......... __________________ Day Date 118206, Daytona 116509 & 116505, AP 25859ST Gone but not forgotten and genuinely missed..... Root Beer GMT, Sub, TT Daytona, YG DD Bark, Datejust(2 his & hers), AP RO, PP Aquanaut, Lange 1, Heuer Monza, Piaget Altiplano, GP Chrono, Seamaster, Tudor Sub, Tudor Chrono, Tudor Black Bay Bronze

11 August 2015, 06:49 AM	#2
VAWATCHGUY "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: Philadelphia Watch: DSSD Posts: 188	Sorry, meant Spain

11 August 2015, 11:31 AM	#4
fabini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Fabio Location: miami Posts: 120	believe me with the Euro losing so much value against the dollar and Spain in such dire straits,its no surprise at all that you're getting those prices.and if you push a little more they might even give you an extra discount. its a no brainer

11 August 2015, 11:51 AM	#5
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	Sounds good.

11 August 2015, 11:52 AM	#6
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,512	Good deal. Take it down.

11 August 2015, 03:05 PM	#7
roadsterdoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Houston Watch: Tudor Pelagos Posts: 84	Go for it. Spain and Italy are excellent places to buy Rolexes at the moment. Euro to dollar exchange rate coupled with the local economy makes for a situation that is in your favor. It's been many years since Americans have had such an opportunity in Europe. Take advantage of it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 August 2015, 03:25 PM	#8
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	Sounds great, do it. For so long traveling to Europe was expensive for Americans. We both remember probably how strong the Euro used to be. The Yen too for that matter. A few years back the Yen was 78 to the Dollar. Now it's nearly 125. I'd get that GMT!

11 August 2015, 06:51 PM	#9
Mick P Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: UK / Spain Watch: 39mm Explorer Posts: 1,990	Chaps I live in both England and in Spain and believe me, Spain is really cheap at the moment due to the weak euro. Also Spanish dealers expect you to haggle as it is part of the culture and thanks to the recession which is still hitting hard in Spain, discounts are easily achievable. Regards Mick

11 August 2015, 08:56 PM	#13
Gaijin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Japan Watch: ing your back. Posts: 16,179	I would claim it. Most likely your honesty with US Customs will go a long way. I suspect that after being lied to daily and people trying to sneak things past them constantly that your honesty would be refreshing. They might not even make you pay duties. If you lie and get caught... well.. I really wish that this constant get around customs lawbreaking advice was prohibited in a forum rule. You get a great deal and we will celebrate with you.

11 August 2015, 09:18 PM	#16
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,091	Great deal. You're USD goes along at in most countries these days. Go for it

16 September 2015, 07:55 AM	#18
Vanmarsenille "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: FLA Posts: 401	Just returned from a 2 week vacation in Spain, where we purchased a Steel/Everose 36mm Datejust for my wife. Great price, too. We claimed the watch on customs form and were waived right through, no duty to pay.

16 September 2015, 02:09 PM	#19
qhbl "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: UK Posts: 150	Seriously, many members here should've collected enough honesty to pay for a new watch by now? Doesn't work does it? I'd be very surprised if anybody bothers you over a "personal-affect" item? Wear your "second-hand" watch when walking past the customs. ;)

25 September 2015, 02:11 PM	#22
CrookedOak "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: United States Watch: Rolex & Tudor Posts: 81	What is the average discount percentage to be had in Barcelona? I saw a dealer this afternoon that I will visit tomorrow (Tous - Passeig de Gracia). Were you able to get VAT paid at the airport?

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