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nvj4 · 22 October 2015, 02:06 PM

After numerous trips, i am going into my nearby preowned boutique tomorrow to make my final decision.

I am stuck between these two watches, any suggestions?

(this is my first Rolex if that changes anything)

Punishher7 · 22 October 2015, 02:09 PM

Whichever you like more. You add a complication that could be valuable to you depending on your lifestyle with the GMT. Just food for thought from a sub owner.

sea-dweller · 22 October 2015, 02:20 PM

I've had both and they are both great watches. No real "right" answer here...

Eric Chan · 22 October 2015, 02:20 PM

In the past, I would have chosen the Sub. But after over a decade of ownership of various Rolex watches I have come to respect the GMT like never before. For me, I feel the GMT is a better well-rounded watch than the Sub, albeit just by a margin. The GMT has a high enough depth rating than most people will ever need and the GMT function is a bonus for those who travel.

Nissanzx1 · 22 October 2015, 02:23 PM

Can't go wrong either way, but you need both eventually. Trust me.

GH

arguetaoscar · 22 October 2015, 02:56 PM

I am a GMT fan, and my first Rolex was a 16700. Both are awesome!

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Recaro18 · 22 October 2015, 03:02 PM

GMT-II is my first Rolex that I still own and enjoy... Either one is a good choice!!

Hairdude1 · 22 October 2015, 03:34 PM

Go with your gut!

Xyzander · 22 October 2015, 03:41 PM

I own a sub and have owned a GMT in the past but prefer the sub. I for whatever reason have never had a problem figuring out time zones and I travel a lot. Just mental math for me.

That being said let me be the first to predict that you will own both. 👍

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V1Rotate · 22 October 2015, 03:48 PM

Can't go wrong with either one. I'm partial to the GMT as you can switch up the look with the bezel colors. If you want the Sub look, throw on the black bezel. I usually wear the black bezel in the fall and winter and put the Pepsi insert on spring and summer. I have all three inserts and it gives the watch 3 different looks for the price of one watch.

In fact, I sold my Sub as I never wore it when I got my 16710. Haven't looked back.

Apalachicola · 22 October 2015, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V1Rotate

Can't go wrong with either one. I'm partial to the GMT as you can switch up the look with the bezel colors. If you want the Sub look, throw on the black bezel. I usually wear the black bezel in the fall and winter and put the Pepsi insert on spring and summer. I have all three inserts and it gives the watch 3 different looks for the price of one watch.

In fact, I sold my Sub as I never wore it when I got my 16710. Haven't looked back.

I like this idea. How much are the bezels, if you don't mind me asking?

roklee · 22 October 2015, 05:15 PM

Gmt

mic6 · 22 October 2015, 05:29 PM

I have both
GMT II is sweeter, especially with a pepsi or coke bezel
If you want a 16610 for me the LV is the way to go

joli160 · 22 October 2015, 05:48 PM

I'd choose the GMT. But check on the condition and choose the best.
GMT because gives you a lot of options, coke, pepsi, black insert, oyster or jubilee bracelet.

Mick P · 22 October 2015, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Chan

In the past, I would have chosen the Sub. But after over a decade of ownership of various Rolex watches I have come to respect the GMT like never before. For me, I feel the GMT is a better well-rounded watch than the Sub, albeit just by a margin. The GMT has a high enough depth rating than most people will ever need and the GMT function is a bonus for those who travel.

This is good advice.

I own a 16610 and the deepest I have taken it down was about 6ft for a few seconds when I dived into the ocean off a rock.

The GMT can go down to 100 ft and I bet 99% of us have never gone down to even 25ft.

The main advantage of the 16610 is that the bezel acts as a timer for occassions when you are in a car park etc. However you got to be pretty dumb if you cannot add an hour or 30 minutes s to when you started an activity.

I suppose the simple truth it just comes down to appearance, go for the one that appeals the most.

Regards

Mick

Mezz72 · 22 October 2015, 08:14 PM

Both !!

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dr3ziz · 22 October 2015, 08:38 PM

16710 is thinner thus more comfortable
Looks better
Extra complication
More useful
Did I say .. Looks better ?

tjbender · 23 October 2015, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Chan

In the past, I would have chosen the Sub. But after over a decade of ownership of various Rolex watches I have come to respect the GMT like never before. For me, I feel the GMT is a better well-rounded watch than the Sub, albeit just by a margin. The GMT has a high enough depth rating than most people will ever need and the GMT function is a bonus for those who travel.

This^ how many people are going down further than 100 meters? The added GMT complication is awesome and can't beat the look of a classic Pepsi

Danny83 · 23 October 2015, 12:15 AM

Gmt

SpunkyQ8 · 23 October 2015, 12:18 AM

16710 here

VinnieVegas · 23 October 2015, 12:20 AM

I have a 16710 and it is my go to watch these days. I also have a collection of inserts to give it variety. You can't go wrong with either, but the GMT Master II is a notch above the Sub-Date in my opinion.

Good luck and enjoy!

ernie2 · 23 October 2015, 12:21 AM

Well, if it is up to me, the GMT II is not longer in production and will be more collectable. Subs are everywhere and are still in production. If I find a good condition GMTII, especially PEPSI, I will snap it up if the price is right

Ferdelious · 23 October 2015, 12:22 AM

Go with the GMT IMO. You can get all the inserts and basically make it 3 different watches.

breitlings · 23 October 2015, 12:30 AM

the 16710 is special -- to me it is the more interesting watch. i would buy a 6 digit sub before a 5. but i would buy a 5 digit gmt ii before a six.

AK797 · 23 October 2015, 12:32 AM

Old sub, and/or new GMTC for me.

breitlings · 23 October 2015, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Old sub, and/or new GMTC for me.

out of curiosity why? i cant figure it out maxi case and ceramic seem better for the sub then the gmt.

Tools · 23 October 2015, 01:13 AM

Here again, two completely different watches for two completely opposite purposes - they're not even close..

It should never be a contest between these two. It should be a decision on which one meets your lifestyle and needs.

mfer · 23 October 2015, 02:16 AM

My suggestion is first one, then the other! ;-)

That is what I did. About 7-8 years apart. There is no bad choice.

16710 is thinner and has that splash of red on the dial. More bezel options as well, but you can't go switching those everyday. More like one a year activity to me. Colored bezels are a "little" more flashy/noticeable.

16610 is as classic as you can get. Nice big crown, slight thicker and sits higher.

Speed · 23 October 2015, 02:43 AM

Good advice from Eric and Mik

The official inserts can't be picked up easily. Some RSCs will sell you one for ~ $80-100 USD, some won't. Some collectors happen to have them and will sell. Same for indie dealers.

Beware, there are a ton of fakes out there.

Gerardus · 23 October 2015, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sea-dweller

I've had both and they are both great watches. No real "right" answer here...

Same for me

22 October 2015, 02:06 PM	#1
nvj4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: NY, NY Posts: 4	GMT-Master 16710 or Sub 16610 After numerous trips, i am going into my nearby preowned boutique tomorrow to make my final decision. I am stuck between these two watches, any suggestions? (this is my first Rolex if that changes anything)

22 October 2015, 02:20 PM	#3
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	I've had both and they are both great watches. No real "right" answer here... __________________ TRF Member #6699 (since September 2007)

22 October 2015, 02:23 PM	#5
Nissanzx1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Grant Holthaus Location: Kansas Watch: Rolex Most Days... Posts: 237	Can't go wrong either way, but you need both eventually. Trust me. GH __________________ 1501 in YG 1803 in YG Vintage BB, Patek 3646, JLC Res de Marche, 16700 15200, 16233, 16234, 16610, 16613, 16600, 16570, Omega Man On The Moon, Asst'd Vintage Chrono's

22 October 2015, 03:34 PM	#8
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Go with your gut! __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

22 October 2015, 05:29 PM	#13
mic6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Europe Watch: 116718 green Posts: 1,944	I have both GMT II is sweeter, especially with a pepsi or coke bezel If you want a 16610 for me the LV is the way to go __________________

22 October 2015, 02:09 PM	#2
Punishher7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: WA Watch: SubC/Pelagos Posts: 512	Whichever you like more. You add a complication that could be valuable to you depending on your lifestyle with the GMT. Just food for thought from a sub owner.

22 October 2015, 02:20 PM	#4
Eric Chan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Eric Chan Location: Vancouver, BC CAN Watch: Day-Date 118238 Posts: 8,798	In the past, I would have chosen the Sub. But after over a decade of ownership of various Rolex watches I have come to respect the GMT like never before. For me, I feel the GMT is a better well-rounded watch than the Sub, albeit just by a margin. The GMT has a high enough depth rating than most people will ever need and the GMT function is a bonus for those who travel.

22 October 2015, 02:56 PM	#6
arguetaoscar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 2,335	I am a GMT fan, and my first Rolex was a 16700. Both are awesome! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

22 October 2015, 03:02 PM	#7
Recaro18 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: RiCkY Location: West Coast Watch: 16520 Posts: 12,439	GMT-II is my first Rolex that I still own and enjoy... Either one is a good choice!!

22 October 2015, 03:41 PM	#9
Xyzander "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Seattle Watch: Sub C, ExpII-Polar Posts: 173	I own a sub and have owned a GMT in the past but prefer the sub. I for whatever reason have never had a problem figuring out time zones and I travel a lot. Just mental math for me. That being said let me be the first to predict that you will own both. 👍 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 October 2015, 03:48 PM	#10
V1Rotate "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: @Boston Watch: 16660 16613 16710 Posts: 278	Can't go wrong with either one. I'm partial to the GMT as you can switch up the look with the bezel colors. If you want the Sub look, throw on the black bezel. I usually wear the black bezel in the fall and winter and put the Pepsi insert on spring and summer. I have all three inserts and it gives the watch 3 different looks for the price of one watch. In fact, I sold my Sub as I never wore it when I got my 16710. Haven't looked back.

22 October 2015, 05:15 PM	#12
roklee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: canada Watch: rolex explorer ii Posts: 493	Gmt

22 October 2015, 05:48 PM	#14
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,757	I'd choose the GMT. But check on the condition and choose the best. GMT because gives you a lot of options, coke, pepsi, black insert, oyster or jubilee bracelet. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

22 October 2015, 08:14 PM	#16
Mezz72 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 618	Both !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 October 2015, 08:38 PM	#17
dr3ziz "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Aziz Location: London/kuwait Posts: 912	16710 is thinner thus more comfortable Looks better Extra complication More useful Did I say .. Looks better ? Attached Images

23 October 2015, 12:15 AM	#19
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	Gmt

23 October 2015, 12:18 AM	#20
SpunkyQ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Aj Location: Kuwait Watch: RM,AP,PP,RLX,PAM Posts: 1,056	16710 here

23 October 2015, 12:20 AM	#21
VinnieVegas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Vincent B Location: New York, NY Watch: '06 GMT Master II Posts: 1,261	I have a 16710 and it is my go to watch these days. I also have a collection of inserts to give it variety. You can't go wrong with either, but the GMT Master II is a notch above the Sub-Date in my opinion. Good luck and enjoy! __________________ Wearing Today: * Seiko SRP777 (2017)

23 October 2015, 12:21 AM	#22
ernie2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Arnold Location: New York Watch: SD4K+BLNR Posts: 849	Well, if it is up to me, the GMT II is not longer in production and will be more collectable. Subs are everywhere and are still in production. If I find a good condition GMTII, especially PEPSI, I will snap it up if the price is right

23 October 2015, 12:22 AM	#23
Ferdelious 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Matt Location: Tampa, FL Watch: Hulk/SD4K/SeaQ/P39 Posts: 3,203	Go with the GMT IMO. You can get all the inserts and basically make it 3 different watches. __________________ Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.

23 October 2015, 12:30 AM	#24
breitlings Banned Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Bethesda Watch: Apple TV Posts: 5,744	the 16710 is special -- to me it is the more interesting watch. i would buy a 6 digit sub before a 5. but i would buy a 5 digit gmt ii before a six.

23 October 2015, 12:32 AM	#25
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Old sub, and/or new GMTC for me.

23 October 2015, 01:13 AM	#27
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Here again, two completely different watches for two completely opposite purposes - they're not even close.. It should never be a contest between these two. It should be a decision on which one meets your lifestyle and needs. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

23 October 2015, 02:16 AM	#28
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	My suggestion is first one, then the other! ;-) That is what I did. About 7-8 years apart. There is no bad choice. 16710 is thinner and has that splash of red on the dial. More bezel options as well, but you can't go switching those everyday. More like one a year activity to me. Colored bezels are a "little" more flashy/noticeable. 16610 is as classic as you can get. Nice big crown, slight thicker and sits higher. __________________ member#3242

23 October 2015, 02:43 AM	#29
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	GMT-Master 16710 or Sub 16610 Good advice from Eric and Mik The official inserts can't be picked up easily. Some RSCs will sell you one for ~ $80-100 USD, some won't. Some collectors happen to have them and will sell. Same for indie dealers. Beware, there are a ton of fakes out there.

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