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SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 05:02 AM

Moderator, please feel free to move this thread to the proper category.

I'm interested in acquiring a 1.6mm screwdriver with a hollow ground blade. Easy enough, right? I know they're easy to get through eBay but quality might be questionable since the manufacturer is unknown.

I found a screwdriver that I like from Bergeon (Model 5971 with a drum barrel)

http://www.esslinger.com/bergeon-597...chmakers-each/

and a hollow ground blade that I like from Horotec (LSD0202-T-160)

http://www.leosics.co.uk/spare-curva...rewdriver.html

My question is, since they're both 1.6mm but from different manufacturers, will the Horotec blade fit the Bergeon screwdriver.

Tools · 30 January 2016, 08:57 AM

Probably not, but I have not tried.

Otto Frei (ofrei.com) has both screwdrivers and replaceable bits to fit them.

SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Probably not, but I have not tried.

Otto Frei (ofrei.com) has both screwdrivers and replaceable bits to fit them.

Thanks Larry. They have the screwdriver I like but I can't find the hollow ground blade.

RichM · 30 January 2016, 10:38 AM

Angelo, they are compatible. I sent you a PM with the correct part numbers at Otto Frei.

Buy the Bergeon Screwdriver and the Horotec tips. Just remove the tip that comes with the screwdriver and replace it with the Horotec. The Bergeon tip is not hollow ground.

RichM · 30 January 2016, 10:53 AM

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SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

Angelo, they are compatible. I sent you a PM with the correct part numbers at Otto Frei.

Buy the Bergeon Screwdriver and the Horotec tips. Just remove the tip that comes with the screwdriver and replace it with the Horotec. The Bergeon tip is not hollow ground.

Thanks again Rich. If I remember right Otto Freight only carries one of those items so I'll probable need to order them separately. But at least I know that they work together.

Tools · 30 January 2016, 10:56 AM

It seems that the Bergeon blades are flat ground and need to be hollow ground if that is what you want.

Both Bergeon and Horotech make hollow grind sharpeners..

SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tools

It seems that the Bergeon blades are flat ground and need to be hollow ground if that is what you want.

Both Bergeon and Horotech make hollow grind sharpeners..

Looks like the Horotec blade will fit the Bergeon screwdriver so that solves my problem.

RichM · 30 January 2016, 11:00 AM

Ang, Otto has both. That's where I got them. The blades are hard to find on their website. If you can't find it, call them and order them over the phone. That's their invoice in the photo with both part numbers.

Sublover2166 · 30 January 2016, 11:06 AM

Rikki has a special tool that can hollow grind a chisel tip. I purchased a Bergeon 1.6mm for my Hulk to size the bracelet. Fortunately I was able to break loose the loctite on 2 pins to remove the half link and did not bugger up the slots. You have to be real careful. On a full 18K gold bracelet I would be really nervous though.

SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

Ang, Otto has both. That's where I got them. The blades are hard to find on their website. If you can't find it, call them and order them over the phone. That's their invoice in the photo with both part numbers.

That's even better. I'll order them first thing in the morning. Much thanks Rich.

treblarefils · 30 January 2016, 12:35 PM

The problem i have is finding the MSA01 202-T160 blade the one site has it but says i have to be in the business to purchase their tools. The screwdriver i can buy from a lot of places but not the special hollow ground blade. I have tools that i use to do the job but i would love to have a proper blade.

SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treblarefils

The problem i have is finding the MSA01 202-T160 blade the one site has it but says i have to be in the business to purchase their tools. The screwdriver i can buy from a lot of places but not the special hollow ground blade. I have tools that i use to do the job but i would love to have a proper blade.

Are you referring to the Otto Frei website or some other one?
Rich Mikol got both items from Otto Frei.

treblarefils · 30 January 2016, 12:48 PM

I tried to buy from here but they want you to be in the business to purchase maybe there is a way around it I already have the horotec 1.6mm violet screwdriver just want this blade.

http://www.startimesupply.com/mercha...-New-Items-All

Tools · 30 January 2016, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SemperFi

Looks like the Horotec blade will fit the Bergeon screwdriver so that solves my problem.

Nice to know

May have to get some myself, although I have never had an issue with the Bergeon drivers as long as the loc-tite is softened first..

SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treblarefils

I tried to buy from here but they want you to be in the business to purchase maybe there is a way around it I already have the horotec 1.6mm violet screwdriver just want this blade.

http://www.startimesupply.com/mercha...-New-Items-All

Just order from Otto Frei.

treblarefils · 30 January 2016, 01:29 PM

here is a direct link to the T160 blade just scroll down looks like they are out of stock

http://www.ofrei.com/page920.html

SemperFi · 30 January 2016, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treblarefils

here is a direct link to the T160 blade just scroll down looks like they are out of stock

http://www.ofrei.com/page920.html

Yep, you're right. The 1.6mm is probably the most popular size. I'll have to keep my eye on it. If you find it anywhere else let me know.

treblarefils · 4 February 2016, 10:36 AM

The hollow ground 1.60mm blade is back in stock for those that wanted one. This might possibly be the only place to order them online on the whole entire internet lol.

Scroll down to this part number
MSA01.202-T160

http://www.ofrei.com/page920.html

SemperFi · 4 February 2016, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treblarefils

The hollow ground 1.60mm blade is back in stock for those that wanted one. This might possibly be the only place to order them online on the whole entire internet lol.

Scroll down to this part number
MSA01.202-T160

http://www.ofrei.com/page920.html

It's also available at this site.

http://www.leosics.co.uk/spare-curva...rewdriver.html

handsfull · 4 February 2016, 11:17 AM

Just in case your super finicky (like myself), the 1.8mm can be filed down slightly and actually a better/more proper fit than the 1.6mm

Boaters · 4 February 2016, 12:31 PM

Thanks guys picked up four ... I have never had any problems with the Bergeon but have not had locktite issue's either

30 January 2016, 05:02 AM	#1
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	Screwdrivers and Blades Moderator, please feel free to move this thread to the proper category. I'm interested in acquiring a 1.6mm screwdriver with a hollow ground blade. Easy enough, right? I know they're easy to get through eBay but quality might be questionable since the manufacturer is unknown. I found a screwdriver that I like from Bergeon (Model 5971 with a drum barrel) http://www.esslinger.com/bergeon-597...chmakers-each/ and a hollow ground blade that I like from Horotec (LSD0202-T-160) http://www.leosics.co.uk/spare-curva...rewdriver.html My question is, since they're both 1.6mm but from different manufacturers, will the Horotec blade fit the Bergeon screwdriver.

30 January 2016, 08:57 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	Probably not, but I have not tried. Otto Frei (ofrei.com) has both screwdrivers and replaceable bits to fit them. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

30 January 2016, 10:38 AM	#4
RichM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 29,752	Angelo, they are compatible. I sent you a PM with the correct part numbers at Otto Frei. Buy the Bergeon Screwdriver and the Horotec tips. Just remove the tip that comes with the screwdriver and replace it with the Horotec. The Bergeon tip is not hollow ground. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

30 January 2016, 10:53 AM	#5
RichM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 29,752	Here's what it looks like. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

30 January 2016, 10:56 AM	#7
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,514	It seems that the Bergeon blades are flat ground and need to be hollow ground if that is what you want. Both Bergeon and Horotech make hollow grind sharpeners.. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

30 January 2016, 11:00 AM	#9
RichM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 29,752	Ang, Otto has both. That's where I got them. The blades are hard to find on their website. If you can't find it, call them and order them over the phone. That's their invoice in the photo with both part numbers. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

30 January 2016, 11:06 AM	#10
Sublover2166 Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Real Name: John Location: Manassas,Virginia Watch: Ol'Bluesy & Hulk Posts: 2,871	Rikki has a special tool that can hollow grind a chisel tip. I purchased a Bergeon 1.6mm for my Hulk to size the bracelet. Fortunately I was able to break loose the loctite on 2 pins to remove the half link and did not bugger up the slots. You have to be real careful. On a full 18K gold bracelet I would be really nervous though.

30 January 2016, 12:35 PM	#12
treblarefils "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: ILLST8 Posts: 209	The problem i have is finding the MSA01 202-T160 blade the one site has it but says i have to be in the business to purchase their tools. The screwdriver i can buy from a lot of places but not the special hollow ground blade. I have tools that i use to do the job but i would love to have a proper blade.

30 January 2016, 12:48 PM	#14
treblarefils "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: ILLST8 Posts: 209	I tried to buy from here but they want you to be in the business to purchase maybe there is a way around it I already have the horotec 1.6mm violet screwdriver just want this blade. http://www.startimesupply.com/mercha...-New-Items-All

30 January 2016, 01:29 PM	#17
treblarefils "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: ILLST8 Posts: 209	here is a direct link to the T160 blade just scroll down looks like they are out of stock http://www.ofrei.com/page920.html

4 February 2016, 10:36 AM	#19
treblarefils "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: ILLST8 Posts: 209	The hollow ground 1.60mm blade is back in stock for those that wanted one. This might possibly be the only place to order them online on the whole entire internet lol. Scroll down to this part number MSA01.202-T160 http://www.ofrei.com/page920.html

4 February 2016, 11:17 AM	#21
handsfull "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: J Location: The great Midwest Watch: youlookinat? Posts: 2,369	Just in case your super finicky (like myself), the 1.8mm can be filed down slightly and actually a better/more proper fit than the 1.6mm

4 February 2016, 12:31 PM	#22
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,653	Thanks guys picked up four ... I have never had any problems with the Bergeon but have not had locktite issue's either

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