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PARCITY1224 · 2 February 2016, 03:03 AM

I am looking at purchasing a GMT 16710 (Coke) with a F serial. Is this to early to have the 3186 movement?
Thanks in advance

AF_Rob · 2 February 2016, 03:27 AM

I believe F series is a little early for the 3186. I want to say the 3186 came around 2010. Experts will chime in through.

WS9D · 2 February 2016, 03:49 AM

I think the 3186 starting showing up with Z serials. Having a D serial with a 3185 and a GMT2c with 3186, I don't think the current premium of a 16710 with a 3186 is worth it. I'd just find a 16710 in really good condition with a 3185 if I were u. That's what I did an couldn't be happier.

Annan · 2 February 2016, 04:34 AM

I'm absolutely not an expert but it's my understanding the 3186 made its first appearance with the M series. https://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.php

Alpino · 2 February 2016, 04:57 AM

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3186 appeared in 2005 , with the YG Gmt2-C 116718. It was already a long time after the end of F series.

Then it was pushed to the 16710 at the end of 2006 and at the end of Z series.

So obviously a 16710 F serie have the 3185 Inside.

jwill051 · 2 February 2016, 05:12 AM

I would not fret over a 3186 over a 3185 if I were you, not worth it IMHO.

PARCITY1224 · 2 February 2016, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwill051

I would not fret over a 3186 over a 3185 if I were you, not worth it IMHO.

I agree. Thanks everyone!

GMT Aviator · 2 February 2016, 05:48 AM

I have a 2007 mid Z series Pepsi Stick Dial. Whilst I've never had the back off, from the 'wiggle' test, I assume it to have a 3185 inside of it.
Having said that, I also own a 2016 11610 LN Ceramic which definitely has a 3186 movement inside of it. The same 'wiggle' test produces the same results I feel as my other GMT's all of which have 3185's inside of them.
Does it really matter? Not a jot! Like others have already said, 3185 or 3186 movement really doesn't make a whole lot of difference and I wouldn't pay more for one over the other in an older 16710. In fact, I reckon my Z series Pepsi is probably the rarer watch being from that serial number range fitted with a 3185! Go figure!

Alpino · 2 February 2016, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMT Aviator

I have a 2007 mid Z series Pepsi Stick Dial. Whilst I've never had the back off, from the 'wiggle' test, I assume it to have a 3185 inside of it.
Having said that, I also own a 2016 11610 LN Ceramic which definitely has a 3186 movement inside of it. The same 'wiggle' test produces the same results I feel as my other GMT's all of which have 3185's inside of them.
Does it really matter? Not a jot! Like others have already said, 3185 or 3186 movement really doesn't make a whole lot of difference and I wouldn't pay more for one over the other in an older 16710. In fact, I reckon my Z series Pepsi is probably the rarer watch being from that serial number range fitted with a 3185! Go figure!

80% of Z series 16710 have a 3185 , 20% have the 3186 ...

sond86 · 18 February 2016, 03:04 AM

Mine is a 2007 M serial with a 3186.

Nakow · 18 February 2016, 05:05 AM

does it mean, some z series gmtIIc have 3185 under the hoods?!

Tools · 18 February 2016, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nakow

does it mean, some z series gmtIIc have 3185 under the hoods?!

No. the GMT II ceramics were introduced with the 3186 movement. They all have one.

The last production runs of the 16710 came with a 3186 because Rolex ran out of 3185 built movements. They also began putting the 3186 into Explorer IIs at that time as well.

2 February 2016, 03:03 AM	#1
PARCITY1224 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 98	3185? 3186? I am looking at purchasing a GMT 16710 (Coke) with a F serial. Is this to early to have the 3186 movement? Thanks in advance

2 February 2016, 04:34 AM	#4
Annan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Ron Location: Arizona, USA Watch: 116233 Posts: 3,180	I'm absolutely not an expert but it's my understanding the 3186 made its first appearance with the M series. https://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.php __________________ *so many Rolexes.....so little time*

18 February 2016, 05:05 AM	#11
Nakow "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Watch: 16622 Posts: 536	does it mean, some z series gmtIIc have 3185 under the hoods?! __________________ 16622

2 February 2016, 03:27 AM	#2
AF_Rob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Virginia Watch: Sub/Polar/OP/BB Posts: 4,673	I believe F series is a little early for the 3186. I want to say the 3186 came around 2010. Experts will chime in through.

2 February 2016, 03:49 AM	#3
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,415	I think the 3186 starting showing up with Z serials. Having a D serial with a 3185 and a GMT2c with 3186, I don't think the current premium of a 16710 with a 3186 is worth it. I'd just find a 16710 in really good condition with a 3185 if I were u. That's what I did an couldn't be happier.

2 February 2016, 04:57 AM	#5
Alpino "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Paris Posts: 2,557	. 3186 appeared in 2005 , with the YG Gmt2-C 116718. It was already a long time after the end of F series. Then it was pushed to the 16710 at the end of 2006 and at the end of Z series. So obviously a 16710 F serie have the 3185 Inside.

2 February 2016, 05:12 AM	#6
jwill051 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Jim Location: Maine & Florida Watch: 16710,116619 Posts: 540	I would not fret over a 3186 over a 3185 if I were you, not worth it IMHO.

2 February 2016, 05:48 AM	#8
GMT Aviator 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,318	I have a 2007 mid Z series Pepsi Stick Dial. Whilst I've never had the back off, from the 'wiggle' test, I assume it to have a 3185 inside of it. Having said that, I also own a 2016 11610 LN Ceramic which definitely has a 3186 movement inside of it. The same 'wiggle' test produces the same results I feel as my other GMT's all of which have 3185's inside of them. Does it really matter? Not a jot! Like others have already said, 3185 or 3186 movement really doesn't make a whole lot of difference and I wouldn't pay more for one over the other in an older 16710. In fact, I reckon my Z series Pepsi is probably the rarer watch being from that serial number range fitted with a 3185! Go figure!

18 February 2016, 03:04 AM	#10
sond86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Real Name: Gym Rat Location: USA Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,327	Mine is a 2007 M serial with a 3186.

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