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SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 01:44 PM

Let's take two members of this forum.
One that has been here for over 3 years, almost since the beginning of the forum and member 2, that is much, much newer.

Member one posts a picture of a girl in the Jokes forum. The forum is labeled Might Not Be Work Safe.
The picture is posted in a forum labeled not safe for work, in a thread that in it's title says "Not Safe For Work".
So far there were TWO warnings that you might want to NOT click on that thread if you are easily offended.
With that being said, the girl that I posted was a reply to a remote control joke and it contained no nudity whatsoever. NONE. I'd just about show that to my Mother.

Earlier today Member 2 posts in the Open Forum and the posting is FULL of nearly naked women, up close of a girl's arse, breasts with a sticker over the nipples... etc.

My post in a forum labeled Not Safe For Work, in a thread labeled Not Safe For Work, got edited and I was told out in the open, not via PM, that I am breaking forum rules.

I have been here for a long long time, and I have never had a run in with the mods, and I will not start now. This is not my intent.

HOWEVER. Since my post got edited, and the reason for the edit was out in the open, I will ask my question out in the open.

Why is it not OK for me to post a pic of a girl that shows no private parts whatsoever (and a hot girl if I might say so

) in a forum labeled Not Safe For Work and in a thread labeled Not Safe For Work but it's OK for other members to post pictures of nearly naked women and close up of their arse, or pics of an old wrinkled dude wearing a speedo? In the Open Forum? Which is NOT labeled NSFW?
Why is it ok for other members to talk about sex with sheep out in the open forum but I got my post edited?

I am not trying to start a fire or troubles, but I am not a Yes man and I never will be. I follow the rules and I take criticism. But I also require an explanation for everything that I do and for everything that is being done to me.

The law should be "enforced" evenly throughout this board. And that's all I am going to say.

East Bay Rider · 26 July 2008, 01:52 PM

LOL-X says in his remarks that he got a complaint.

(Complaining about that? I can't imagine.)

Seeing as how I read this site in front of my son, I'm satisfied with clicking the links.

2careless · 26 July 2008, 02:01 PM

Hmm, I do concur that the other post should have a disclaimer. I wouldn't want to get sacked or something when I'm reading open forums at work.

pwrslider · 26 July 2008, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2careless

Hmm, I do concur that the other post should have a disclaimer. I wouldn't want to get sacked or something when I'm reading open forums at work.

X2!

....at least Steve left the photo links!!! Had me worried for a bit...as I didn't have time to download them yet!!

abigsecret · 26 July 2008, 02:05 PM

Hey Chip

I totally see your point, and I'm sure some action will be taken to the other guy's thread.

I'm sorry they edited your post, that's not nice!

Trurolexer · 26 July 2008, 02:34 PM

Sometime I still confuse about "Not Safe..." post. Why Not Safe? Sorry...

Ashley · 26 July 2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Sometime I still confuse about "Not Safe..." post. Why Not Safe? Sorry...

TR, the "NSFW" disclaimer tells people that it might be better to not open the thread at work. A lot of workplaces can see what their workers are looking at, and if it can be construed as inappropriate, the employee might get in trouble, and potentially even fired.
Also, some people might be uncomfortable having to explain what they're doing if a coworker or boss comes along!

Art161 · 26 July 2008, 03:13 PM

"Enforcement" is quite often based on a complaint.

One of the security guards at the building where I live told me that he does not ring someone's doorbell to tell the resident that the music is too loud unless another resident has called in a complaint to the office.

It appears to me that Steve is trying to keep everyone happy. Obviously, you are not happy. Sorry about that. I didn't interpret Steve's post as saying that you broke a rule. Personally, I don't see any big deal about clicking on a link to see a photo. Nice photos, by the way.

If you think that other postings are improper, click on the triangle. That's why it is there.

Lisa · 26 July 2008, 03:26 PM

Clicking on a link is a much better option in my house, when I have two little girls looking over my shoulder most of the time!

jdc · 26 July 2008, 04:30 PM

I think Steve gave a clear explanation of his reasons.
I had a similar run in with a mod a few weeks ago over a word I used, I took it on the chin and moved on.
Different posts will attract different complaints, don't take it personally the mods are trying their best, I am sure the other post if noticed would get treated within the rules.

Uncle-AJ · 26 July 2008, 04:32 PM

Running a forum is not easy, as you know Chip and I do agree that the same standards should apply to everyone. I just made a hasty decision elsewhere and now deeply regret it. It's quite possible Steve has done the same, who knows? Bottom line, I think a mistake has been made here and lets face it we all make mistakes. In the long run I'm sure we can put this behind us and get on with the fun.

OYSTERMANN · 26 July 2008, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

Running a forum is not easy, as you know Chip and I do agree that the same standards should apply to everyone. I just made a hasty decision elsewhere and now deeply regret it. It's quite possible Steve has done the same, who knows? Bottom line, I think a mistake has been made here and lets face it we all make mistakes. In the long run I'm sure we can put this behind us and get on with the fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdc

I think Steve gave a clear explanation of his reasons.
I had a similar run in with a mod a few weeks ago over a word I used, I took it on the chin and moved on.
Different posts will attract different complaints, don't take it personally the mods are trying their best, I am sure the other post if noticed would get treated within the rules.

Wise words, guys - that just about sums it up

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SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 05:44 PM

I'm not mad, nor do I plan to leave this forum.
There are a few people here that I count as friends and I would just about trust with my life. (mailman and Mike to name a few)

As somebody that has ran a forum for over 3 years, I know a bit about what is right as wrong. I run a 100.000.000 million/year operation for AT&T and I have 200 people reporting to me. One thing that I have learned long time ago is that the rules have to apply to everyone. Not just one person.

Am I a model member? Probably not. But I have been here for a long time and I feel that I have been "screwed" while new members get to do whatever they want.

That's it.

And no... I'm not going to threaten to leave or anything like that.
I'm simply the kind of guy that expects to see some skin if he turns the channel to Cinemax at midnight, (an analogy to my post) and expects to see Lifetime Television when he clicks on the Open Forum.
Somehow those two got reversed.

SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

In the long run I'm sure we can put this behind us and get on with the fun.

It's already behind me.

I just want the "law" to apply to everyone.
If I would click on the Bikes and Sturges thread at work and some ladies would happen to see that... I would be in the HR's office in a heart beat.
That's all.

OYSTERMANN · 26 July 2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLRdude

It's already behind me.

That's good news, Chip.

You've been here a long time and I hope all this doesn't spoil your enjoyment of the Forum

SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art161

"Enforcement" is quite often based on a complaint.

If you think that other postings are improper, click on the triangle. That's why it is there.

Well... this is how I look at this.
1. "Enforcement" is quite often based on a complaint.
The person that complained was warned TWICE that it might not be work friendly!

And like you said... damn... those were nice pics LOL.

2. If you think that other postings are improper, click on the triangle.
I am not clicking on any triangle. I am mature enough to click away from a thread I do not care for. Just like I am not going to cancel my internet provider cause they give access to porn. What you do and what you look at is a personal choice. Don't like it... click somewhere else.

I do agree with you though... enforcement is based on a complaint.

Uncle-AJ · 26 July 2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLRdude

It's already behind me.

I just want the "law" to apply to everyone.
If I would click on the Bikes and Sturges thread at work and some ladies would happen to see that... I would be in the HR's office in a heart beat.
That's all.

I agree 100% Chip, there should be a warning on that thread. Especially as I work in a very sensitive country and could click on that at an Internet Cafe and end up being arrested.

Trurolexer · 26 July 2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLRdude

I'm not mad, nor do I plan to leave this forum.

Glad to know that, Chip.

Trurolexer · 26 July 2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tags_girl_

TR, the "NSFW" disclaimer tells people that it might be better to not open the thread at work. A lot of workplaces can see what their workers are looking at, and if it can be construed as inappropriate, the employee might get in trouble, and potentially even fired.
Also, some people might be uncomfortable having to explain what they're doing if a coworker or boss comes along!

Thanks for your explaination, Ashley!!!

SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trurolexer

Glad to know that, Chip.

How the heck do you have 4000some posts already!

Damn... I'm falling behind! LOL

Jocke · 26 July 2008, 06:20 PM

Can the problem be the girl you post is one of the mods wife?

Jocke

SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jocke

Can the problem be the girl you post is one of the mods wife?

Jocke

LOL!!!!!

I can't speak for the mods, but from my perspective... I WISH!!!!!

Felly Jr. · 26 July 2008, 06:34 PM

Chip, I looked for your post in the joke sector but didn't find it. I really wanted to check out the hot chick.......Damn! Is it gone?

Jimbits76 · 26 July 2008, 06:57 PM

Missed all this...I'm always in the wrong place at the right time.

I believe the rules should stand man...equal rights to all members...well apart from me.

Mainly because I RULE!!!!

J

SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Mainly because I RULE!!!!

Yeah you do!

Felly Jr. · 26 July 2008, 07:14 PM

Thanks Chip!

.........Your right, she's

HOT!!

Jimbits76 · 26 July 2008, 07:15 PM

Give over man, you posts and photography are a benefit to this place!

Glad you have put all thsi stuff above behind you and are staying here with ol' J!

J

SLRdude · 26 July 2008, 07:37 PM

Hey....

I just realized something!

I started a post that got more than one reply!!!

Felly Jr. · 26 July 2008, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLRdude

Hey....

I just realized something!

I started a post that got more than one reply!!!

It's all because of the HOT chick!!

Jocke · 26 July 2008, 07:47 PM

If you ask a seroius question you will always get some great answers.

If you post a pic, the only you get is a PM.

Jocke

26 July 2008, 01:44 PM	#1
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	Question. Let's take two members of this forum. One that has been here for over 3 years, almost since the beginning of the forum and member 2, that is much, much newer. Member one posts a picture of a girl in the Jokes forum. The forum is labeled Might Not Be Work Safe. The picture is posted in a forum labeled not safe for work, in a thread that in it's title says "Not Safe For Work". So far there were TWO warnings that you might want to NOT click on that thread if you are easily offended. With that being said, the girl that I posted was a reply to a remote control joke and it contained no nudity whatsoever. NONE. I'd just about show that to my Mother. Earlier today Member 2 posts in the Open Forum and the posting is FULL of nearly naked women, up close of a girl's arse, breasts with a sticker over the nipples... etc. My post in a forum labeled Not Safe For Work, in a thread labeled Not Safe For Work, got edited and I was told out in the open, not via PM, that I am breaking forum rules. I have been here for a long long time, and I have never had a run in with the mods, and I will not start now. This is not my intent. HOWEVER. Since my post got edited, and the reason for the edit was out in the open, I will ask my question out in the open. Why is it not OK for me to post a pic of a girl that shows no private parts whatsoever (and a hot girl if I might say so ) in a forum labeled Not Safe For Work and in a thread labeled Not Safe For Work but it's OK for other members to post pictures of nearly naked women and close up of their arse, or pics of an old wrinkled dude wearing a speedo? In the Open Forum? Which is NOT labeled NSFW? Why is it ok for other members to talk about sex with sheep out in the open forum but I got my post edited? I am not trying to start a fire or troubles, but I am not a Yes man and I never will be. I follow the rules and I take criticism. But I also require an explanation for everything that I do and for everything that is being done to me. The law should be "enforced" evenly throughout this board. And that's all I am going to say. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

26 July 2008, 01:52 PM	#2
East Bay Rider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: East Bay RI Watch: GMT-II 16710LN Posts: 12,073	LOL-X says in his remarks that he got a complaint. (Complaining about that? I can't imagine.) Seeing as how I read this site in front of my son, I'm satisfied with clicking the links. __________________ I bought a cheap watch from the crazy man Floating down canal It doesn't use numbers or moving hands It always just says "now" Now you may be thinking that I was had But this watch is never wrong And if I have trouble the warranty said Breathe In, Breathe Out, Move On J. Buffett Instagram: eastbayrider46

26 July 2008, 02:05 PM	#5
abigsecret "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Mireyna Location: s o t r Watch: your back! Posts: 2,282	Hey Chip I totally see your point, and I'm sure some action will be taken to the other guy's thread. I'm sorry they edited your post, that's not nice! __________________ #6267 He who knows no foreign language does not know his own.-Goethe

26 July 2008, 03:13 PM	#8
Art161 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Art Location: San Francisco Watch: Sundial Posts: 2,266	"Enforcement" is quite often based on a complaint. One of the security guards at the building where I live told me that he does not ring someone's doorbell to tell the resident that the music is too loud unless another resident has called in a complaint to the office. It appears to me that Steve is trying to keep everyone happy. Obviously, you are not happy. Sorry about that. I didn't interpret Steve's post as saying that you broke a rule. Personally, I don't see any big deal about clicking on a link to see a photo. Nice photos, by the way. If you think that other postings are improper, click on the triangle. That's why it is there. __________________ Rolex SS Oyster Perpetual no date, TT Datejust Member #13992 HM Power to the Superlative Panda, officially certified! HMPanda eats, shoots and leaves. Rolexers do it with perpetual movements.

26 July 2008, 04:32 PM	#11
Uncle-AJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Real Name: Adrian Location: Bolton, UK. Watch: Daytona 116520 Posts: 6,844	Running a forum is not easy, as you know Chip and I do agree that the same standards should apply to everyone. I just made a hasty decision elsewhere and now deeply regret it. It's quite possible Steve has done the same, who knows? Bottom line, I think a mistake has been made here and lets face it we all make mistakes. In the long run I'm sure we can put this behind us and get on with the fun. __________________ A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.........Segal's Law Member #10

26 July 2008, 02:01 PM	#3
2careless "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, AU Watch: Pepsi Posts: 4,370	Hmm, I do concur that the other post should have a disclaimer. I wouldn't want to get sacked or something when I'm reading open forums at work.

26 July 2008, 02:34 PM	#6
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	Sometime I still confuse about "Not Safe..." post. Why Not Safe? Sorry...

26 July 2008, 03:26 PM	#9
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	Clicking on a link is a much better option in my house, when I have two little girls looking over my shoulder most of the time!

26 July 2008, 04:30 PM	#10
jdc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: UK Posts: 7,023	I think Steve gave a clear explanation of his reasons. I had a similar run in with a mod a few weeks ago over a word I used, I took it on the chin and moved on. Different posts will attract different complaints, don't take it personally the mods are trying their best, I am sure the other post if noticed would get treated within the rules.

26 July 2008, 05:44 PM	#13
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	I'm not mad, nor do I plan to leave this forum. There are a few people here that I count as friends and I would just about trust with my life. (mailman and Mike to name a few) As somebody that has ran a forum for over 3 years, I know a bit about what is right as wrong. I run a 100.000.000 million/year operation for AT&T and I have 200 people reporting to me. One thing that I have learned long time ago is that the rules have to apply to everyone. Not just one person. Am I a model member? Probably not. But I have been here for a long time and I feel that I have been "screwed" while new members get to do whatever they want. That's it. And no... I'm not going to threaten to leave or anything like that. I'm simply the kind of guy that expects to see some skin if he turns the channel to Cinemax at midnight, (an analogy to my post) and expects to see Lifetime Television when he clicks on the Open Forum. Somehow those two got reversed. __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

26 July 2008, 06:20 PM	#21
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	Can the problem be the girl you post is one of the mods wife? Jocke __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

26 July 2008, 06:34 PM	#23
Felly Jr. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Felly Location: Washington State Watch: SS Daytona/GV Posts: 2,998	Chip, I looked for your post in the joke sector but didn't find it. I really wanted to check out the hot chick.......Damn! Is it gone?

26 July 2008, 06:57 PM	#24
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Missed all this...I'm always in the wrong place at the right time. I believe the rules should stand man...equal rights to all members...well apart from me. Mainly because I RULE!!!! J

26 July 2008, 07:14 PM	#26
Felly Jr. "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Felly Location: Washington State Watch: SS Daytona/GV Posts: 2,998	Thanks Chip! .........Your right, she's HOT!!

26 July 2008, 07:15 PM	#27
Jimbits76 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,407	Give over man, you posts and photography are a benefit to this place! Glad you have put all thsi stuff above behind you and are staying here with ol' J! J

26 July 2008, 07:37 PM	#28
SLRdude "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Chip Location: Dallas TX Posts: 6,194	Hey.... I just realized something! I started a post that got more than one reply!!! __________________ Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Yoda, Jedi Master CHIP Member # 87

26 July 2008, 07:47 PM	#30
Jocke 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jocke Location: Sweden Watch: A dozen of Rolex's Posts: 22,541	If you ask a seroius question you will always get some great answers. If you post a pic, the only you get is a PM. Jocke __________________ This message is written in perfect swenglish. What is best a custom Rolex or a Rolex that is stuck in custom? Buy a professional camera and you´re a professional photographer, buy a flute and you own a flute.

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