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TheVTCGuy · 17 May 2016, 01:51 PM

First-Thanks to the other thread with the concept-photoshop models, I really like some of those ideas!

One that caught my eye was the TT Explorer, I thought it really looked good.

My mind wandered to the idea of a TT or AG Explorer, and immediately discounted it. The EX (and II) is a "working" watch, to be worn while climbing mountains or exploring caves; you can't have Gold in a watch like that. But then, I thought of the sub. That is a "working" watch, to be worn while diving. It comes in not only TT but AG and looks very very good. So, why not a PM Explorer?

ref1655 · 17 May 2016, 03:34 PM

I have often wondered that myself...if it were offered, someone would buy one.

the question is, how attractive would a PM EXP2 look? the Sub & GMT offer interesting color contrasts via the bezel inserts while an Explorer II is kind of monochromatic except for the black bezel numerals.

a PM case/bracelet would definitely work on an EXP1 or an older Milgauss as those models are similar in outward appearance to traditional dress Rolexes.

520lux · 17 May 2016, 04:08 PM

Good topic. My personal opinion is that why not. I bet that most people who own a rolex sport watch do not use it for its intended purpose. I myself don't use my explorer as "intended" and would not mind a dressed up version of it.

If Rolex offered it both ways I bet they would sell twice as many…It would be a good move on their end if they decided to offer a dressed up version.

Star Ferry · 17 May 2016, 04:15 PM

Yeah, at first it seems antithetical to its purpose, but then we think about all the PM Daytonas, Subs and GMTs

Anthon · 17 May 2016, 04:57 PM

When did the first gold Sub appear?
You would think you first need a devout and fanatical fan-base before you set a watch in gold. The watch must be shrouded in mysticism. Who in his right mind would pay quadruple the price for the same watch and double the price for the pure gold content? And that for a watch that some people already steer away from because the minute hand doesn't reach the second marks. Maybe the pre-2010 (14270) model would stand a slim chance. After all, the rose gold Yachtmaster seems to attract quite a lot of attention, so who knows!

MonBK · 17 May 2016, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

First-Thanks to the other thread with the concept-photoshop models, I really like some of those ideas!

One that caught my eye was the TT Explorer, I thought it really looked good.

My mind wandered to the idea of a TT or AG Explorer, and immediately discounted it. The EX (and II) is a "working" watch, to be worn while climbing mountains or exploring caves; you can't have Gold in a watch like that. But then, I thought of the sub. That is a "working" watch, to be worn while diving. It comes in not only TT but AG and looks very very good. So, why not a PM Explorer?

Why not?

japenney · 17 May 2016, 09:07 PM

my thoughts would be that the explorer is a less popular seller compared to sub, gmt, daytona so it would be not worth making into a precious metal for Rolex because they would not sell enough. Same with milgauss. :)

cop414 · 17 May 2016, 09:09 PM

Interesting thought Paul, I agree, why not?

fskywalker · 17 May 2016, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by japenney

my thoughts would be that the explorer is a less popular seller compared to sub, gmt, daytona so it would be not worth making into a precious metal for rolex because they would not sell enough. Same with milgauss. :)

x2

Dubarzy · 17 May 2016, 09:24 PM

One of the things I love about the explorer is that there is only one option in current production. You can't "configure it". One size, one dial, one material, one bracelet, one bezel. You have to take it as it is. Other than the newly released air King, no other modern Rolex comes to mind that is similarly "rigid". That's pretty damn cool if you ask me. If you want something different, you have to buy used or NOS.

Ruddiger · 17 May 2016, 09:30 PM

Howdy,

I'm thinking a white gold Explorer II with a seal brown dial, white markers and hands, and a burnt orange 24 hour hand would be about perfect!

Take care,

Ruddiger

AK797 · 17 May 2016, 09:33 PM

It could happen given the broader appeal Rolex seems to be aiming for, but I think they might want to keep certain models in certain metals to distinguish them, such as DD and SkyDs in PM and the Exp, Milgauss and AK in SS.

77T · 17 May 2016, 09:39 PM

I think every model except the Explorer, Expl. II and the Milgauss have had the TT treatment.
Something I've noted is how TT waxes and wanes in popularity among buyers and collectors over the years. For example, recently Daytona TT have had a lower resale value than similar SS versions.

Mr. K · 17 May 2016, 10:43 PM

An all gold would be sweet

T. Ferguson · 17 May 2016, 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=ref1655;6706631]

...the question is, how attractive would a PM EXP2 look? the Sub & GMT offer interesting color contrasts via the bezel inserts while an Explorer II is kind of monochromatic except for the black bezel numerals...
QUOTE]

Apparently it's been good enough for the Daytona and DJ.

It's an interesting situation. Since they already produce the case and the bracelet in PM, it essentially would cost them nothing to add a PM Explorer to the line. So, it wouldn't surprise me if dealer feedback is a factor. Just what a relatively capital limited AD wouldn't get too excited about, having to carry yet another modest selling model in PM.

tomchicago · 17 May 2016, 11:05 PM

If the model is available in stainless, there is usually very....very....................very little reason to have it in PM unless u want YG or RG specifically.

Moreover Explorer has a sensibility that rises above such ego-positioning.

sickened1 · 17 May 2016, 11:12 PM

I wouldn't buy it but then again, I'm not much of a PM guy. If they make an Explorer in PM, the Explorer II would probably make more sense. And they might as well come out with a PM Milgauss also.

FremStar · 17 May 2016, 11:18 PM

We obviously cannot predict the future, however, one quick look at the history (1960-1980's) of the brand the Milgauss and Explorer line have never been offered in precious metal renditions so I personally doubt we will see a modern PM version of those watches ;-(

SemperFi · 17 May 2016, 11:30 PM

Heck, why not? I would also like to see an Explorer with a white dial.

I think that would be a stunner!

Daytona88 · 17 May 2016, 11:33 PM

I'm an Ex II fan but perhaps because it is not a huge seller (like subs and GMTs) Rolex may not see an appropriate market base?

Hammer · 17 May 2016, 11:36 PM

I would be all over a white dialled Explorer.

Explorer II comes with both options, so why not?

Danny83 · 17 May 2016, 11:43 PM

That would be nice

Boaters · 18 May 2016, 12:34 AM

Never really gave it much thought but very good point or better yet idea

Abdullah71601 · 18 May 2016, 01:12 AM

I would rather have the Explorer in black ceramic.

77T · 18 May 2016, 01:35 AM

Ceramic makes sense.
As for basic models some were in TT or PM IIRC. Wasn't the Date, the OP and the OP Date offered in TT in the past?

GB-man · 18 May 2016, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubarzy

One of the things I love about the explorer is that there is only one option in current production. You can't "configure it". One size, one dial, one material, one bracelet, one bezel. You have to take it as it is. Other than the newly released air King, no other modern Rolex comes to mind that is similarly "rigid". That's pretty damn cool if you ask me. If you want something different, you have to buy used or NOS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 77T

I think every model except the Explorer, Expl. II and the Milgauss have had the TT treatment.
Something I've noted is how TT waxes and wanes in popularity among buyers and collectors over the years. For example, recently Daytona TT have had a lower resale value than similar SS versions.

Let's not forget the seadweller boys!

Dr. Prunesquallor · 18 May 2016, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

Let's not forget the seadweller boys!

Yep, you never know when you may have to do some saturation diving AND look good in a tux at the same time!

gtnator · 18 May 2016, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruddiger

Howdy,

I'm thinking a white gold Explorer II with a seal brown dial, white markers and hands, and a burnt orange 24 hour hand would be about perfect!

Take care,

Ruddiger

Let's see a digital mock up!

TheVTCGuy · 18 May 2016, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Why not?

Although not completely out of the question I guess, it is more to the abuse of the metals. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but Gold is a softer metal then stainless steel and scratches easier, so for a "working" watch that would be subjected to all kinds of harsh environment and treatment, a SS watch makes more sense.

Ruddiger · 18 May 2016, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtnator

Let's see a digital mock up!

Howdy,

Wish that I could! Sadly, I can barely type this stuff!

Take care,

Ruddiger

17 May 2016, 01:51 PM	#1
TheVTCGuy Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Paul Location: San Diego Watch: 126619LB Posts: 21,540	Why not a PM Explorer? First-Thanks to the other thread with the concept-photoshop models, I really like some of those ideas! One that caught my eye was the TT Explorer, I thought it really looked good. My mind wandered to the idea of a TT or AG Explorer, and immediately discounted it. The EX (and II) is a "working" watch, to be worn while climbing mountains or exploring caves; you can't have Gold in a watch like that. But then, I thought of the sub. That is a "working" watch, to be worn while diving. It comes in not only TT but AG and looks very very good. So, why not a PM Explorer?

17 May 2016, 09:09 PM	#8
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,242	Interesting thought Paul, I agree, why not? __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

17 May 2016, 09:39 PM	#13
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	I think every model except the Explorer, Expl. II and the Milgauss have had the TT treatment. Something I've noted is how TT waxes and wanes in popularity among buyers and collectors over the years. For example, recently Daytona TT have had a lower resale value than similar SS versions. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

17 May 2016, 10:49 PM	#15
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	[QUOTE=ref1655;6706631] ...the question is, how attractive would a PM EXP2 look? the Sub & GMT offer interesting color contrasts via the bezel inserts while an Explorer II is kind of monochromatic except for the black bezel numerals... QUOTE] Apparently it's been good enough for the Daytona and DJ. It's an interesting situation. Since they already produce the case and the bracelet in PM, it essentially would cost them nothing to add a PM Explorer to the line. So, it wouldn't surprise me if dealer feedback is a factor. Just what a relatively capital limited AD wouldn't get too excited about, having to carry yet another modest selling model in PM. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

17 May 2016, 11:18 PM	#18
FremStar "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Sam Location: Gotham City Watch: Wall Street Posts: 9,954	We obviously cannot predict the future, however, one quick look at the history (1960-1980's) of the brand the Milgauss and Explorer line have never been offered in precious metal renditions so I personally doubt we will see a modern PM version of those watches ;-( __________________ "Wealth is of the heart and mind, not of the pocket!" "A Watch Is An Emotional Object, And So, It Is The Responsibility Of The Brand To Create Emotion Through It's Products" - Georges Kern "In the 1950s and 60s, they made the Ref 8171, which is a cult collectible—now that’s the ultimate Rolex you could own with a calendar and a moon phase.” - John Reardon "Heh, heh, heh..." - Michael Kilyung

17 May 2016, 03:34 PM	#2
ref1655 Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: SF Bay Area Watch: 1655/MkI Posts: 1,100	I have often wondered that myself...if it were offered, someone would buy one. the question is, how attractive would a PM EXP2 look? the Sub & GMT offer interesting color contrasts via the bezel inserts while an Explorer II is kind of monochromatic except for the black bezel numerals. a PM case/bracelet would definitely work on an EXP1 or an older Milgauss as those models are similar in outward appearance to traditional dress Rolexes.

17 May 2016, 04:08 PM	#3
520lux "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: AZ Posts: 584	Good topic. My personal opinion is that why not. I bet that most people who own a rolex sport watch do not use it for its intended purpose. I myself don't use my explorer as "intended" and would not mind a dressed up version of it. If Rolex offered it both ways I bet they would sell twice as many…It would be a good move on their end if they decided to offer a dressed up version.

17 May 2016, 04:15 PM	#4
Star Ferry Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: down by the river Posts: 4,926	Yeah, at first it seems antithetical to its purpose, but then we think about all the PM Daytonas, Subs and GMTs

17 May 2016, 04:57 PM	#5
Anthon "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Netherlands Watch: Explorer Posts: 545	When did the first gold Sub appear? You would think you first need a devout and fanatical fan-base before you set a watch in gold. The watch must be shrouded in mysticism. Who in his right mind would pay quadruple the price for the same watch and double the price for the pure gold content? And that for a watch that some people already steer away from because the minute hand doesn't reach the second marks. Maybe the pre-2010 (14270) model would stand a slim chance. After all, the rose gold Yachtmaster seems to attract quite a lot of attention, so who knows!

17 May 2016, 09:07 PM	#7
japenney "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Josh Location: Canada Watch: undecided Posts: 4,777	my thoughts would be that the explorer is a less popular seller compared to sub, gmt, daytona so it would be not worth making into a precious metal for Rolex because they would not sell enough. Same with milgauss. :)

17 May 2016, 09:24 PM	#10
Dubarzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Wesley Location: Austin Watch: 214270 Posts: 630	One of the things I love about the explorer is that there is only one option in current production. You can't "configure it". One size, one dial, one material, one bracelet, one bezel. You have to take it as it is. Other than the newly released air King, no other modern Rolex comes to mind that is similarly "rigid". That's pretty damn cool if you ask me. If you want something different, you have to buy used or NOS.

17 May 2016, 09:30 PM	#11
Ruddiger 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 443	Howdy, I'm thinking a white gold Explorer II with a seal brown dial, white markers and hands, and a burnt orange 24 hour hand would be about perfect! Take care, Ruddiger

17 May 2016, 09:33 PM	#12
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	It could happen given the broader appeal Rolex seems to be aiming for, but I think they might want to keep certain models in certain metals to distinguish them, such as DD and SkyDs in PM and the Exp, Milgauss and AK in SS.

17 May 2016, 10:43 PM	#14
Mr. K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Mark Location: Seattle-ish Posts: 6,078	An all gold would be sweet

17 May 2016, 11:05 PM	#16
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	If the model is available in stainless, there is usually very....very....................very little reason to have it in PM unless u want YG or RG specifically. Moreover Explorer has a sensibility that rises above such ego-positioning.

17 May 2016, 11:12 PM	#17
sickened1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 9,054	I wouldn't buy it but then again, I'm not much of a PM guy. If they make an Explorer in PM, the Explorer II would probably make more sense. And they might as well come out with a PM Milgauss also.

17 May 2016, 11:30 PM	#19
SemperFi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Angelo Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 42,164	Heck, why not? I would also like to see an Explorer with a white dial. I think that would be a stunner!

17 May 2016, 11:33 PM	#20
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,621	I'm an Ex II fan but perhaps because it is not a huge seller (like subs and GMTs) Rolex may not see an appropriate market base?

17 May 2016, 11:36 PM	#21
Hammer "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: Simon Location: Essex Posts: 530	I would be all over a white dialled Explorer. Explorer II comes with both options, so why not?

17 May 2016, 11:43 PM	#22
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,312	That would be nice

18 May 2016, 12:34 AM	#23
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,653	Never really gave it much thought but very good point or better yet idea

18 May 2016, 01:12 AM	#24
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	I would rather have the Explorer in black ceramic.

18 May 2016, 01:35 AM	#25
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	Ceramic makes sense. As for basic models some were in TT or PM IIRC. Wasn't the Date, the OP and the OP Date offered in TT in the past? __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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