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guydebordgame · 2 August 2008, 07:04 PM

hi I recently won this auction for a low price, but upon further inspection I believe the watch to be fake http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230270900395what do you think? Also how do I get out of paying for it at this point? Thanks!

toph · 2 August 2008, 08:15 PM

honestly i have never seen a rolex like this. Wait until others give you more information and they will know if its fake or not. Then refuse to pay on that grounds and you will have the TRFers evidence

Fey · 2 August 2008, 09:17 PM

Ive seen some Red Cross Rolex's but nothing exactly like this.
Maybe a few others can shed some light, perhaps on the movement?

arttay10 · 2 August 2008, 09:43 PM

Never seen one before......

arttay10 · 2 August 2008, 09:46 PM

Ryder........ a Budweiser dialed Rolex in your avatar

Now thats one I'd go for....... infact, with the amount I've spent on the stuff over the years - they should present me with one !!

stevemulholland3 · 2 August 2008, 10:29 PM

I have seen one other watch like this.but it didnt look quite like that one,the dial was a little different-I will have to look for the pictures.
also the rolex engraving on the movement seems a little sloppy for rolex.just my opinion.
steve

Spark · 2 August 2008, 10:50 PM

It is a tough one.
The crown is not original for sure.
The movement looks OK and possibly the dial has had the text and cross redone?
I don't think the text Rolex, the coronet and precision are original nore the cross as that looks off center, bot the rest of the dial looks old and possibly original to the movement.
Rolex made a lot of watches in the 40's era and before that were marked Oyster watch co and just oyster etc.. that didn't mention Rolex on the dial especially for the Canadian market.
Quite a few of these have had the Rolex text added later to make them more marketable and desirable.
The case back is not like anything I've seen fitted to a Rolex Oyster of any vintage before either.
Sorry I can't be of more help, but there are so many older models that are just that little bit different it is sometimes very hard to tell.

tudorman8276 · 3 August 2008, 01:46 AM

...to me. The crown may also be original to the watch, so the nurses did not have to fumble around with a TINY flat crown.

Stan.

Ed Rooney · 3 August 2008, 02:09 AM

Bad caseback. It looks like an old Seiko.

I would get out of the deal.

Terry Newton · 3 August 2008, 06:43 AM

I don't see why it would not be genuine. The E-Bayer has been a member since 2002, has sold 1045 items with 100% feedback, and the watch seems like it could very well be valid. I think it is OK.

Terry Newton

2 August 2008, 07:04 PM	#1
guydebordgame Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: ryder Location: nyc Watch: milgauss Posts: 80	what do you think of this vintage? hi I recently won this auction for a low price, but upon further inspection I believe the watch to be fake http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230270900395what do you think? Also how do I get out of paying for it at this point? Thanks!

2 August 2008, 08:15 PM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	honestly i have never seen a rolex like this. Wait until others give you more information and they will know if its fake or not. Then refuse to pay on that grounds and you will have the TRFers evidence __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

3 August 2008, 01:46 AM	#8
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	Looks genuine.... ...to me. The crown may also be original to the watch, so the nurses did not have to fumble around with a TINY flat crown. Stan.

3 August 2008, 06:43 AM	#10
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I don't see why it would not be genuine. The E-Bayer has been a member since 2002, has sold 1045 items with 100% feedback, and the watch seems like it could very well be valid. I think it is OK. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

2 August 2008, 09:17 PM	#3
Fey Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Manuel Location: Ireland Watch: Rolex Sea Dweller Posts: 89	Ive seen some Red Cross Rolex's but nothing exactly like this. Maybe a few others can shed some light, perhaps on the movement?

2 August 2008, 09:43 PM	#4
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	Never seen one before......

2 August 2008, 09:46 PM	#5
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	Ryder........ a Budweiser dialed Rolex in your avatar Now thats one I'd go for....... infact, with the amount I've spent on the stuff over the years - they should present me with one !!

2 August 2008, 10:29 PM	#6
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	I have seen one other watch like this.but it didnt look quite like that one,the dial was a little different-I will have to look for the pictures. also the rolex engraving on the movement seems a little sloppy for rolex.just my opinion. steve

2 August 2008, 10:50 PM	#7
Spark "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Mark Location: U.K. Watch: Too Many Posts: 2,097	It is a tough one. The crown is not original for sure. The movement looks OK and possibly the dial has had the text and cross redone? I don't think the text Rolex, the coronet and precision are original nore the cross as that looks off center, bot the rest of the dial looks old and possibly original to the movement. Rolex made a lot of watches in the 40's era and before that were marked Oyster watch co and just oyster etc.. that didn't mention Rolex on the dial especially for the Canadian market. Quite a few of these have had the Rolex text added later to make them more marketable and desirable. The case back is not like anything I've seen fitted to a Rolex Oyster of any vintage before either. Sorry I can't be of more help, but there are so many older models that are just that little bit different it is sometimes very hard to tell.

3 August 2008, 02:09 AM	#9
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	Bad caseback. It looks like an old Seiko. I would get out of the deal.

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