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GLADIATOR · 29 May 2016, 10:00 AM

Real or Fake.
I can not see anything wrong based on only one photo, but something (the seller) seems wrong. any thoughts
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Cosmog...4AAOSwDV1XQnVo

Adam

sachal007 · 29 May 2016, 10:01 AM

Pic is of gen watch. Seller is questionable

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GLADIATOR · 29 May 2016, 10:04 AM

No, I think fake. Look where the seconds hand passes through "L" "P" and "Superlative Chronometer"

Compare to genuine here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=role...CAys-ONcSwM%3A

GGGMT · 29 May 2016, 11:44 AM

Hard to say. Watch is slightly canted in Second photo

GLADIATOR · 29 May 2016, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Hard to say. Watch is slightly canted in Second photo

Thanks.
I have reported as highly suspicious based on
1) Price
2) seller
3) Only one photo
4) Dial layout based on genuine

??

GGGMT · 29 May 2016, 11:49 AM

Feedback in the 70% is certainly nasty.

GLADIATOR · 29 May 2016, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGGMT

Feedback in the 70% is certainly nasty.

Very. Indeed feedback in 90s is very poor

freefly · 29 May 2016, 01:22 PM

Watch in the picture looks fine. I believe there were a couple dial variations. However, it smells like the common bait-and-switch scam. Seller posts pics/description of genuine watch. Winning bidder will receive a fake (or nothing at all).

crowncollection · 29 May 2016, 03:22 PM

Stolen photos I have seen them before.

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GLADIATOR · 30 May 2016, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

Stolen photos I have seen them before.

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I wish, I could prove that, its over $7700.

I have reported as "suspicious" not much more I can do
A

superstarmar · 30 May 2016, 12:55 AM

The sellers eBay handle is off too ... Just looks
Very very questionable ...

Fredrik · 30 May 2016, 02:30 AM

It looks like the image is stolen from here:

http://www.santblanc.com/steel-gold-...ant-blanc.html

Notice that it seems that they have photoshopped the background to be fully grey, however the 6 o'clock hand has moved. The reflections of the hang tag and in fact all of the reflections are more or less identical to me. Maybe they have gotten more images from santblanc and used one taken in the same set but not available in a google search?

It might be hard or impossible to convince ebay of this though...

GLADIATOR · 30 May 2016, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik

It looks like the image is stolen from here:

http://www.santblanc.com/steel-gold-...ant-blanc.html

Notice that it seems that they have photoshopped the background to be fully grey, however the 6 o'clock hand has moved. The reflections of the hang tag and in fact all of the reflections are more or less identical to me. Maybe they have gotten more images from santblanc and used one taken in the same set but not available in a google search?

It might be hard or impossible to convince ebay of this though...

Dont know. Impossible to prove.
Greatly appreciate your time
adam

michael067 · 30 May 2016, 09:34 AM

Based on all evidence presented, two words if I were a potential buyer: Stay=Away.

GLADIATOR · 30 May 2016, 09:43 AM

Its going to sell for more than you can buy an authenicated one!!

roadkillrob · 30 May 2016, 12:39 PM

What does this mean in description sounds almost like they are saying it isn't a real one but hard to understand.

This UA Rolex is a Swiss watch and timepiece specialist and not a Rolex dealer and have no affiliation with Rolex Watch USA.

Feedback is awful, everything the guy has sold which is no much has no value and even those things he gets bad feedback, sounds like a small time scammer trying to go big time!

fossfire · 30 May 2016, 03:32 PM

I have a reliable source that confirms the account that won this auction has no intention of paying, and simply uses these opportunities to further reduce the feedback score of such scammer accounts. Some people's kids...

GLADIATOR · 30 May 2016, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fossfire

I have a reliable source that confirms the account that won this auction has no intention of paying, and simply uses these opportunities to further reduce the feedback score of such scammer accounts. Some people's kids...

Really?

GLADIATOR · 31 May 2016, 04:09 AM

Well Ebay removed it!
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29 May 2016, 10:00 AM	#1
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Daytona 116250 on Ebay Real or Fake. I can not see anything wrong based on only one photo, but something (the seller) seems wrong. any thoughts http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-Cosmog...4AAOSwDV1XQnVo Adam

29 May 2016, 03:22 PM	#9
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,216	Stolen photos I have seen them before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

29 May 2016, 10:01 AM	#2
sachal007 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Sachal Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Hulk/BLNR/D-Sea Posts: 294	Pic is of gen watch. Seller is questionable Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk

29 May 2016, 10:04 AM	#3
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	No, I think fake. Look where the seconds hand passes through "L" "P" and "Superlative Chronometer" Compare to genuine here: https://www.google.com/search?q=role...CAys-ONcSwM%3A

29 May 2016, 11:44 AM	#4
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,343	Hard to say. Watch is slightly canted in Second photo

29 May 2016, 11:49 AM	#6
GGGMT 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,343	Feedback in the 70% is certainly nasty.

29 May 2016, 01:22 PM	#8
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	Watch in the picture looks fine. I believe there were a couple dial variations. However, it smells like the common bait-and-switch scam. Seller posts pics/description of genuine watch. Winning bidder will receive a fake (or nothing at all).

30 May 2016, 12:55 AM	#11
superstarmar Banned Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: In Motion Watch: my wrist presence Posts: 7,436	The sellers eBay handle is off too ... Just looks Very very questionable ...

30 May 2016, 02:30 AM	#12
Fredrik 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,874	It looks like the image is stolen from here: http://www.santblanc.com/steel-gold-...ant-blanc.html Notice that it seems that they have photoshopped the background to be fully grey, however the 6 o'clock hand has moved. The reflections of the hang tag and in fact all of the reflections are more or less identical to me. Maybe they have gotten more images from santblanc and used one taken in the same set but not available in a google search? It might be hard or impossible to convince ebay of this though...

30 May 2016, 09:34 AM	#14
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002	Based on all evidence presented, two words if I were a potential buyer: Stay=Away.

30 May 2016, 09:43 AM	#15
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Its going to sell for more than you can buy an authenicated one!!

30 May 2016, 12:39 PM	#16
roadkillrob "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: Rob Location: Boston Watch: 16610 Sub,ZblueMIL Posts: 167	What does this mean in description sounds almost like they are saying it isn't a real one but hard to understand. This UA Rolex is a Swiss watch and timepiece specialist and not a Rolex dealer and have no affiliation with Rolex Watch USA. Feedback is awful, everything the guy has sold which is no much has no value and even those things he gets bad feedback, sounds like a small time scammer trying to go big time!

30 May 2016, 03:32 PM	#17
fossfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Washington Posts: 3	I have a reliable source that confirms the account that won this auction has no intention of paying, and simply uses these opportunities to further reduce the feedback score of such scammer accounts. Some people's kids...

31 May 2016, 04:09 AM	#19
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Well Ebay removed it! This listing (162080252320) has been removed, or this item is not available. Please check that you've entered the correct item number Listings that have ended 90 or more days ago will not be available for viewing.

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