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Lol-x · 9 July 2016, 12:38 AM

1. Manslaughter.....jailed for 5 years.
2. Manslaughter upgraded to non-premeditated murder on appeal.
3. Minimum statutory term of 15 years for non-premeditated murder unless there are "substantial and compelling circumstances".
4. Fired 4 shots into a locked door intending to kill where there was no immediate threat.
5. Upgrade to murder = 1 extra year in jail and spend half the total term of 6 years under house arrest in uncle's 5 star luxury mansion.
6. Pleaded 'not guilty' and fought it tooth and nail and the judge said he showed remorse....
7. African legal system - fail

Kingair · 9 July 2016, 12:55 AM

Don't know what to say actually . . .

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Abdullah71601 · 9 July 2016, 01:02 AM

Justice for sale?

I think he's a nutcase that should be locked up in an asylum, but I'm not a doctor...

Ruud Van Driver · 9 July 2016, 02:49 AM

Wrong on every level. Bastard (sorry, but he is) should be put away for life. In six years, he'll still be a young man.

Rockrolex · 9 July 2016, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Wrong on every level. Bastard (sorry, but he is) should be put away for life. In six years, he'll still be a young man.

I agree. He got off way to leniently for my taste.

KarlS · 9 July 2016, 04:12 AM

It's a lighter sentence than killing a lion in SA!

HL65 · 9 July 2016, 04:17 AM

Absolute nonsense!

ref1655 · 9 July 2016, 04:50 AM

SA jurisprudence is unique...to say the least.

T. Ferguson · 9 July 2016, 05:01 AM

Are judges elected in SA?

MonBK · 9 July 2016, 06:10 AM

He should rot in jail!

Etschell · 9 July 2016, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

1. Manslaughter.....jailed for 5 years.
2. Manslaughter upgraded to non-premeditated murder on appeal.
3. Minimum statutory term of 15 years for non-premeditated murder unless there are "substantial and compelling circumstances".
4. Fired 4 shots into a locked door intending to kill where there was no immediate threat.
5. Upgrade to murder = 1 extra year in jail and spend half the total term of 6 years under house arrest in uncle's 5 star luxury mansion.
6. Pleaded 'not guilty' and fought it tooth and nail and the judge said he showed remorse....
7. African legal system - fail

im not trying to be too political here but remember oj simpson? celebrities get different treatment. its ridiculous.

77T · 9 July 2016, 08:47 AM

I don't recall but did Pistorius beat the murder charge the first time around to end up with the #1 Manslaughter on the list?

Gnomon · 9 July 2016, 09:05 AM

Ignored in the above is that unless he receives VIP prisoner treatment and segregation, he's a dead man walking. No desire to go into details and get banned for sinning against PC, but anyone who has an understanding of reality on the ground in that part of the world should be able to put two and two together.

Man does appear to be a nutter though.

Star Ferry · 9 July 2016, 10:00 AM

I agree with Gnomon. Back in 2014, RSA gang leaders were already threatening a "prison hit" against Pistorius..

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Lol-x · 9 July 2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnomon

Ignored in the above is that unless he receives VIP prisoner treatment and segregation, he's a dead man walking.

There is nothing stopping the jail system giving Pistorius segregation, they do it for others on a daily basis so they can do it for Pistorius. Still that is no excuse to reduce the statutory minimum sentence by 9 years.

As for giving him VIP treatment or he will die in jail, I can't accept that. Sure give him what he needs because of his physical disability, but other than that, he can survive just like anyone else, although there are no silver spoons in the cutlery draw.

Lol-x · 9 July 2016, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Star Ferry

I agree with Gnomon. Back in 2014, RSA gang leaders were already threatening a "prison hit" against Pistorius..

Pistorius has already done 10 months in jail (wow that is a lot for murder) and that didn't hurt him, and it was also before the rumored threat...so again that aint a valid excuse.

perpetualman88 · 9 July 2016, 10:11 AM

very sad day for justice

Mr Daytona · 9 July 2016, 10:50 AM

Justice will be served in this life or the next.

RW16610 · 9 July 2016, 10:57 AM

This is certainly a very sad situation. Unbelievable.

Star Ferry · 9 July 2016, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

Pistorius has already done 10 months in jail (wow that is a lot for murder) and that didn't hurt him, and it was also before the rumored threat...so again that aint a valid excuse.

One thing we can agree on -- his sentence is way too short for a murder conviction

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KarlS · 9 July 2016, 08:55 PM

It reminds me of the OJ Simpson case where mistakes were made by the police, public opinion was heavily against the accused but the court found otherwise. The SA legal system used to be excellent with many of the practioners judges in the UK and Queens Counsel. In criminal cases the presumption of "beyond reasonable doubt" applies and as a jury system does not apply one has to believe that there is reasonable doubt. Only 2 people know the real story...a tragedy and the first case I know where the prosecution actually appealed a judges sentence

68camaro · 9 July 2016, 09:22 PM

South Africa has nothing on the US legal system........institutions we used to count on have been politicalized and corrupted to point of banana republic.

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9 July 2016, 12:38 AM	#1
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,593	Oscar Pistorius.....1 more year.....duh!!! 1. Manslaughter.....jailed for 5 years. 2. Manslaughter upgraded to non-premeditated murder on appeal. 3. Minimum statutory term of 15 years for non-premeditated murder unless there are "substantial and compelling circumstances". 4. Fired 4 shots into a locked door intending to kill where there was no immediate threat. 5. Upgrade to murder = 1 extra year in jail and spend half the total term of 6 years under house arrest in uncle's 5 star luxury mansion. 6. Pleaded 'not guilty' and fought it tooth and nail and the judge said he showed remorse.... 7. African legal system - fail __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	Justice for sale? I think he's a nutcase that should be locked up in an asylum, but I'm not a doctor...

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KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	It's a lighter sentence than killing a lion in SA!

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ref1655 Banned Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: SF Bay Area Watch: 1655/MkI Posts: 1,100	SA jurisprudence is unique...to say the least.

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MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	He should rot in jail!

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Star Ferry Banned Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: down by the river Posts: 4,926	I agree with Gnomon. Back in 2014, RSA gang leaders were already threatening a "prison hit" against Pistorius.. Sent from my SM-G9200 using Tapatalk

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perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,182	very sad day for justice

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Mr Daytona "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Mr. Daytona Location: On the water Watch: Panerai Posts: 974	Justice will be served in this life or the next.

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RW16610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 9,203	This is certainly a very sad situation. Unbelievable.

9 July 2016, 08:55 PM	#21
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	It reminds me of the OJ Simpson case where mistakes were made by the police, public opinion was heavily against the accused but the court found otherwise. The SA legal system used to be excellent with many of the practioners judges in the UK and Queens Counsel. In criminal cases the presumption of "beyond reasonable doubt" applies and as a jury system does not apply one has to believe that there is reasonable doubt. Only 2 people know the real story...a tragedy and the first case I know where the prosecution actually appealed a judges sentence

9 July 2016, 09:22 PM	#22
68camaro Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA! Posts: 862	South Africa has nothing on the US legal system........institutions we used to count on have been politicalized and corrupted to point of banana republic.

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