Vacheron Constantin Overseas vs. Rolex Daytona

[Louies]

Hi guys

I'm new to the world of high end watches. Recently, I've been contemplating to buy either a Rolex Daytona and a Vacheron Constantin Overseas. While both are great names, Rolex is certainly more well known. VC, on the other hand, somehow appeals a lot more to me. I just know enough that it's a great watch company with a long history of making watches. However, other than that I don't know much about their watches. So here's my two choices. Please tell me the long and shorts of each.

My use is for both works and plays. My goal for getting one of these is that I want a nice watch, but a discreet one as well. I don't want my watch to scream "hey that's a 15K $$ plus watch." But yet, I want a watch that's worth my money and a high resale value should I decide to sell it. My guess is that I'm trying to balance out between being discreet of a VC and the high resale value of the Rolex. All in all, I want a total package. I know "total" is a subjective word, but I suppose you guys get the idea.


Thanks.


Here's the VC Overseas

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0..._bw_g241_i3_sh


Here's the Rolex Commograph Daytona. As a side note, I know this one is hard to get, but I can wait.

http://www.jomashop.com/rolex-watch-116500wso.html

[GB-man]

You want a patek 5711 or 5167.

[GerardoG]

Welcome to the club! You have two very nice options, and I guess you will get more raves here on the Daytona (Rolex forum). Both have its ups and downs, my 2 cents is to try them both and get the one that YOU like best. In the end, you will be wearing it, not us.

Happy hunting and let us know what you decide!

[daytonaTBR]

Hold out for a 116500. The VC Overseas never did anything for me.

[T01]

Daytona

[rw2008]

Originally Posted by Aw15

Hold out for a 116500. The VC Overseas never did anything for me.

Pretty much this

[Louies]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You want a patek 5711 or 5167.

That's way out of my league.

Originally Posted by Aw15

Hold out for a 116500. The VC Overseas never did anything for me.

What do you mean "it never did anything for you?" You mean you never got any compliment from it? As for the 116500, what's the decent price to buy? Joomashop quotes it as 15K plus. I think that's fair, given that other Daytonas ranges between 11K-13.5K. I'm willing to pay 15.5K or less.

[psv]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You want a patek 5711 or 5167.

Why? He listed the two watches he is interested in?


Try on both pieces and buy the one that sings the most to you. I love both your options. Needless to say, the Daytona is more recognizable would be easier to sell if you decided to do so, but that is starting a collection with the wrong mindset IMO. I really dig the new Daytona, especially with the white dial but it will be years before most people will be able to get one at MSRP unless you have special connections (I thought I did but I'm falling short anyhow...)

The VC Overseas is highly underrated IMO. It is a beautiful piece, wears great and part of the Big Three (something Rolex cannot say). Jason Heaton did a very nice review of the OSC last year http://gearpatrol.com/2015/07/21/vac...ay-watch-need/

I go to a business meeting and there is 5 or 6 Rolex watches around the table, I have never seen anyone wear an OSC in the wild...

[Muzz]

Not an huge fan of the VC bezel. While I appreciate what they were trying to do, it just makes it a pain to clean and wipe down as gunk gets into all of those tight spaces.

While I have had many opportunities to buy an Overseas chrono I have never followed through as it just didn't sing to me. However every one that I have looked at sold relatively quickly and there is a good demand and following for them.

The Daytona despite being smaller is cleaner and far more comfortable on my wrist. A quick wipe and it is clean without spending too much time on it. Additionally it is cheaper and more liquid if you decide to trade or sell.

The market price for these VC Overseas Chronos have softened so factor that into your decision. New can be had for a discount where that will not be the case for the Daytona.

Additionally, I would prefer my timepieces to not have religious symbols built into the design. I just need a watch to be a watch.

[kirksingleton]

not a VC fan at all but I bet you would get a different opinion if you posted this on the VC forums!

[raffor]

I personally would take a Vacheron over a Rolex and the Overseas design is bold. Having said that, you probably get a more ruggid watch with the Rolex.


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[joli160]

VC has a date which for me is a must.
Try both and whichever gives you the biggest smile

[Jareddad]

Certainly get the one that sparks your interest most. Daytonas certainly have solid resale and are always desired. Though I don't own a VC, my impression is that they are excellent time pieces, but resale won't be it's strong point. VC is considered part of the "holy trinity" of AP, PP, and VC. So arguably, it's another level higher than Rolex. But if I had to choose, it would be the Daytona C all day long...

[jrs146]

Both great choices for a Chrono. Personally, I really like the VC over the Daytona. It has a date which I need. It also has a higher level of finishing compared to the Daytona. I have not seen the new model yet in the flesh, but they gave it some pretty nice updates. It's going to be at a slightly higher price point compared to a Daytona. Resale would be a little harder I would think.

[Vipes]

Both are really nice. If resale value is a major factor then go with the Daytona. The VC is really nice and it has a top notch movement. You should also take a look at the AP Royal Oak chrono.

[tigerpac]

Sounds like a pre-owned VC Overseas checks most of your boxes (assuming pre-owned is OK for you). Discreet, VC brand-name, good relative resale value (first owner takes most of the hit).

[Lordofrolex]

daytona

[beshannon]

I went through this decision several times.

As much as I wanted to love the Overseas I always came back to the Daytona

[dgobin208]

I'm a big fan of the vc overseas (preferably the steel bracelet though - maybe the best I've ever tried on). In fact I prefer its aesthetics and sizing over the Daytona. With that said I think the smart money is on the Rolex. The Daytona has the heritage and the resale value. The vc is likely to take a sizable hit upon resale. Also not sure whether it matters but I believe that model lacks an in house movement which some would see as a knock since vc is only crafting the exterior components of the watch. I believe this is changing with the new vc overseas which is out or coming out soon with a heftier price tag. I still might buy the vc despite that.

[AK797]

I would get the VCO on the lovely MC bracelet, however the D500 would be my first choice for a chrono, it looks better to my eye and ofc resale is much better.

[Alex_TA]

I don't even understand this comparison. The watch from the oldest company in the world, one from the Holy Trinity vs relatively young but well known watch? It's like to compare jewelry to a hammer. Very good hammer, with high resale value 😏

[dgobin208]

Originally Posted by Alex_TA

I don't even understand this comparison. The watch from the oldest company in the world, one from the Holy Trinity vs relatively young but well known watch? It's like to compare jewelry to a hammer. Very good hammer, with high resale value 😏

True but the overseas only dates back 20 years and if it's a movement from another watchmaker (a modified f piguet I believe) then you could argue that vc is only supplying the jewelry piece of the watch whereas Rolex is making the whole hammer. Personally though I believe the finish of the vc is far superior.

[WristEnvy]

Originally Posted by Muzz

Not an huge fan of the VC bezel. While I appreciate what they were trying to do, it just makes it a pain to clean and wipe down as gunk gets into all of those tight spaces.

Funny you say that. I was wondering how someone can get a watch so grimey after a few months. After disinfecting the back of the case I tried on my coworker's.



It is a beautiful watch, especially the blue. But I prefer the 116500.


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[Muzz]

Originally Posted by WristEnvy

Funny you say that. I was wondering how someone can get a watch so grimey after a few months. After disinfecting the back of the case I tried on my coworker's.



It is a beautiful watch, especially the blue. But I prefer the 116500.


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Wow Ray!! That was the exact image in my mind when I wrote that definitely need some Q tips for that bezel!

[Spartacus]

You want the VC, go for the VC.

[cabbleking]

they are both very cool watches, but would go with the Daytona

[Louies]

Ok...on another note...

Judging them from another angle, what does each speak about taste of the owner? My take is that Rolex means rich, success but not necessarily sophisticated (didn't mean to offend any Rolex owner. But it just crosses me that way). VC, while being one of the oldest and probably the most prestigious of the 3, somehow gives me the illusion of an aristocrat.

Like I said at the beginning, I'm new to this world of high end watches and looking to dip my toe buying my first piece. So any misconception about the watch mentioned is purely coincidental.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by psv

Why? He listed the two watches he is interested in?

First off let me preface this by saying after owning both the 5711 and 5167 I have sold them both.

I recommended them to the OP because he explicitly stated he is looking for a high end watch that is discreet but also holds its value extremely well. A rolex will never be discreet, certainly not a modern one.

I do not favor the overseas and value retention sure as ain't what it's known for. I'm not saying that should stop anyone from buying one, but OP was very clear resale was important.

Not much holds its value like a daytona. Closest thing that is discreet would be PP 5711 or 5167 imho.

[Spartacus]

Originally Posted by Louies

Ok...on another note...

Judging them from another angle, what does each speak about taste of the owner? My take is that Rolex means rich, success but not necessarily sophisticated (didn't mean to offend any Rolex owner. But it just crosses me that way). VC, while being one of the oldest and probably the most prestigious of the 3, somehow gives me the illusion of an aristocrat.

Like I said at the beginning, I'm new to this world of high end watches and looking to dip my toe buying my first piece. So any misconception about the watch mentioned is purely coincidental.

Is this some kind of homework problem you are working on...and it's due tomorrow?

A confident man in the business world makes decisions not based on the opinions of the masses.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Louies

Ok...on another note...

Judging them from another angle, what does each speak about taste of the owner? My take is that Rolex means rich, success but not necessarily sophisticated (didn't mean to offend any Rolex owner. But it just crosses me that way). VC, while being one of the oldest and probably the most prestigious of the 3, somehow gives me the illusion of an aristocrat.

Like I said at the beginning, I'm new to this world of high end watches and looking to dip my toe buying my first piece. So any misconception about the watch mentioned is purely coincidental.

Stick around. Read more. Learn more. Your misconceptions will melt away quickly.